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OT: New York Mets 2020-2021 Off Season Thread

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I would love to find a taker for Cano, even if it means putting in most of his salary. With the Seattle $$$ we really only owe him $12 mil per year. He had a good year here and may we may find a taker. Not really expecting much back but moving Cano would allow us to play Gimenz / Rosario or Gimenz / McNeil middle infield. I prefer McNeil at 2b rather than the OF. The bonus would be being able to keep Davis at 3B. Moving Cano would be a priority for me along with signing Realmuto and a pitcher. Cano is clogging up the infield and if he stays we probably have to move Davis as McNeil would play 3B, Smith LF, and Polar Bear at 1B. This is all based on the assumption the NL goes back to no DH.
 
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I would love to find a taker for Cano, even if it means putting in most of his salary. With the Seattle $$$ we really only owe him $12 mil per year. He had a good year here and may we may find a taker. Not really expecting much back but moving Cano would allow us to play Gimenz / Rosario or Gimenz / McNeil middle infield. I prefer McNeil at 2b rather than the OF. The bonus would be being able to keep Davis at 3B. Moving Cano would be a priority for me along with signing Realmuto and a pitcher. Cano is clogging up the infield and if he stays we probably have to move Davis as McNeil would play 3B, Smith LF, and Polar Bear at 1B. This is all based on the assumption the NL goes back to no DH.
From Cohen's standpoint we owe Cano $20.25M per year. We pay his $24M base salary, and Seattle sends us $3.75M per year. The rest of the savings came in the form of Seattle assuming the contracts of Bruce and Swarzak. That is done, and does not enter into Cohen's calculus going forward.

UNLESS... the Seattle deal was that they paid the $3.75M annual rebate in advance. In that case, the Wilpons have pocketed that money, and Cohen is on the hook for the full $24M per year.

All of that said, I think the DH is here to stay, which does change things.
 
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From Cohen's standpoint we owe Cano $20.25M per year. We pay his $24M base salary, and Seattle sends us $3.75M per year. The rest of the savings came in the form of Seattle assuming the contracts of Bruce and Swarzak. That is done, and does not enter into Cohen's calculus going forward.

UNLESS... the Seattle deal was that they paid the $3.75M annual rebate in advance. In that case, the Wilpons have pocketed that money, and Cohen is on the hook for the full $24M per year.

All of that said, I think the DH is here to stay, which does change things.
As long as we never have to hear his contract gets in the way of us making a big signing...then, I am 100% ok with him on the team and more so if there is a DH. If they use his $$$ as an excuse, that is the only problem.
 
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Come on. It wasn't that thick. How'd that work out ?
1986 was so long ago.
At least your out in the light of day, but where's the rest of The 3 Amigos? Like I said, you've lowered your own bar, rooting for the new Mr. October must be so hard. I'll help you out,Kbee, note to self, just stay one step ahead of the Mets, and all is good, because that's all you've done the past 11 years.😁 😁
 
At least your out in the light of day, but where's the rest of The 3 Amigos? Like I said, you've lowered your own bar, rooting for the new Mr. October must be so hard. I'll help you out,Kbee, note to self, just stay one step ahead of the Mets, and all is good, because that's all you've done the past 11 years.😁 😁
It works for me.
BTW, one of the few saving graces of being a Mets fan is that the expectations are so low to begin with.
And didn't your team finish in last place again ?
 
It works for me.
BTW, one of the few saving graces of being a Mets fan is that the expectations are so low to begin with.
And didn't your team finish in last place again ?
I thought when we say we were in the WS in 15 that 2nd place is the same as last...
Now, you are just happy your Yankees make the playoffs at just barely above .500

go back to your Yankee playoff thread.
 
I thought when we say we were in the WS in 15 that 2nd place is the same as last...
Now, you are just happy your Yankees make the playoffs at just barely above .500

go back to your Yankee playoff thread.
LMAO, he constantly contradicts himself. Yankee goals for their fans have fallen so far, so true. 🤪
 
Post article today says Cohen will invest heavily in the front office, revamp and fully fund the analytics staff and spend $$$ on international players. Seems like he is serious about long term success. He expects to lose $400,000,000.00 over the next two years but considers it to be an investment for the future. It's Amazing, no pun intended, the Wilpons got as far as they did with this club.
 
No way I get rid of JD Davis, he reminds me of a Kevin McReynolds type player. Why wouldn't you want a .285 , 25 HR guy in your lineup? Trade him to maybe get back someone just like that? As far as Rosario, I still think he's the best SS on the team factoring in everything. Gimenez will never be the bat Rosario is, and he would come back to haunt us just like Travis!!! Sign Noah, there's no way he won't work hard on rehab, the guy is a beast. You don't grow 100+ arms on trees. He's a big game pitcher, he proved that in the WC game against the Giants, I was at that game with my son, he was great.
When did Rosario become a “bat”?
 
It works for me.
BTW, one of the few saving graces of being a Mets fan is that the expectations are so low to begin with.
And didn't your team finish in last place again ?
Ok- simple bet...if the Cohen purchase goes through...Mets reach WS before the Yankees. $100
 
Wow, is this what i looked like when I used to post this much in the Evil empire thread? Where is { Proud the Mush} & superfan{douche?}???
you realize in this thread...you have 2 Met posts and 10 Yankee or Amigo posts? Let these guys talk to themselves. I have to do the same myself...
 
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Who cares about Travis at this point. Yeah, a few didn't like the way the idiot GM went about it but no one had a problem with him not being on this team. Close the book as BVW will not be here next year.
On to more serious questions...What do we do in the off season.
Need to lock up Noah, Conforto
Do we keep Rosario on the team as we have control with him still and I am not sure I want to trust a full season relying 100% on Giminez. OR would Rosario make a good piece of a trade for the same reason?
We still have control of D Smith, Alonso, Davis, McNeil, Guillorme...Do we consider trading any of them for pieces we need? I would think that McNeil, Alonso are the closest to untouchable. Smith has been great but he may really be a great piece to move. Though, if NL keeps DH, it does change the dynamic
At C- need a big move here. With our offense, can we afford to go with a big time defensive guy or do we go all out on Realmuto? I think he is the number 1 target the Met's will go after.
OF- can we live with Nimmo in CF or do we need to find a way to make it possible to have him as the full time LF with Conforto as full time RF? And go get a above average fielding, decent hitting with speed guy?
Pitching...Is Bauer the guy we make our big push for? He seems to want to be a Yankee. That didn't work out well for us with Stroman.
I would love to go the way of trying to rebuild the minor league system but with deGrom's age, we can't waste the next 5 years on one of the greatest pitchers this franchise has ever had.

So much we can talk about without worrying about the past.
One thing to consider. Bauer and Cole were UCLA teammates and do not get along at all.
 
Lol, As long as you realize you've been drawn in also, but I didn't take the time to count yours, lol
you realize in this thread...you have 2 Met posts and 10 Yankee or Amigo posts? Let these guys talk to themselves. I have to do the same myself...
Lol, Just counted your doing slightly better than me, in this thread you've posted 6 Mets post and 10 Yankee or Amigo posts.
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No way I get rid of JD Davis, he reminds me of a Kevin McReynolds type player. Why wouldn't you want a .285 , 25 HR guy in your lineup? Trade him to maybe get back someone just like that? As far as Rosario, I still think he's the best SS on the team factoring in everything. Gimenez will never be the bat Rosario is, and he would come back to haunt us just like Travis!!! Sign Noah, there's no way he won't work hard on rehab, the guy is a beast. You don't grow 100+ arms on trees. He's a big game pitcher, he proved that in the WC game against the Giants, I was at that game with my son, he was great.
Where does Davis play if everyone is healthy?
He has nowhere to play if there's no DH.
 
Ok- simple bet...if the Cohen purchase goes through...Mets reach WS before the Yankees. $100
Are you saying the Mets are about to head on the much-condemned course of attempting to buy a championship ?
I thought that Mets fans disdained such unfair tactics.
 
Did you read the last line of my post?
And going back through, I do get sucked back in but most of my “non” Mets posts you counted still had Met content in it...or telling the amigos to go back to thread.
anyway- we may have an excited off season ahead. Time to enjoy it for a change.
 
No way I get rid of JD Davis, he reminds me of a Kevin McReynolds type player. Why wouldn't you want a .285 , 25 HR guy in your lineup? Trade him to maybe get back someone just like that? As far as Rosario, I still think he's the best SS on the team factoring in everything. Gimenez will never be the bat Rosario is, and he would come back to haunt us just like Travis!!! Sign Noah, there's no way he won't work hard on rehab, the guy is a beast. You don't grow 100+ arms on trees. He's a big game pitcher, he proved that in the WC game against the Giants, I was at that game with my son, he was great.
Why would anyone Kevin McReynolds? He was the automatic double play everytime he came up.
 
Why would anyone Kevin McReynolds? He was the automatic double play everytime he came up.
Davis reminds me much more of a Howard Johnson type guy. A little less power and speed but better contact hitter. Hard nosed Baseball player though that can be a solid force in any lineup.
 
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Are you saying the Mets are about to head on the much-condemned course of attempting to buy a championship ?
I thought that Mets fans disdained such unfair tactics.
Well, it sure as hell hasn't worked for the last 11 years for your team, so I'm sure Cohen will use some sort of highbred, a mix of all things the Mets haven't used in recent years. Either way, I can see your already worried, lmfao.
 
That's not how I remember McReynolds, in fact I remember Davey Johnson saying what a solid player he was.
KM was just a super solid player both in the field and at bat. Not a superstar by any means but a guy that is good on any team. a .275/25HR/90 RBI with 15-20 SB as well - pretty solid in the field too
1 bad year with hitting in DP but usually pretty normal 6-8 per year
 
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I had to look up McReynolds stats earlier and was admittedly stunned by his Mets stats. Just one of those players I was never impressed with at the time (I think my expectations were way out of whack).
 
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I had to look up McReynolds stats earlier and was admittedly stunned by his Mets stats. Just one of those players I was never impressed with at the time (I think my expectations were way out of whack).
It is funny- I remember him as solid but when I went back and looked at his Met's career- he was well above solid for those days. Different era...he may have been a beast if he played now. lol But maybe one of the better 4-5 year runs for a Met's hitter
 
And another chuckle at LAD having home field advantage for that series in '88 after whipping their tail all year and having a better record. All flipped in '86 when the tomfoolery of MLB gave the Astros (the West) home field because of an Oilers home game. I mean really???
 
KM was just a super solid player both in the field and at bat. Not a superstar by any means but a guy that is good on any team. a .275/25HR/90 RBI with 15-20 SB as well - pretty solid in the field too
1 bad year with hitting in DP but usually pretty normal 6-8 per year
Exactly, I don't get the hate from Tico. Give me an outfield across the board of .275/25HR/90RBI with 20 SB, and I'd be happy.
 
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