OT: New York Mets 2020-2021 Off Season Thread
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Please stop feeding the trolls.
First thing I do is lock up Conforto and Noah if possible. May have to give Conforto 5/100 and try to get Noah on a Nola type contract. A bunch of the guys- just let them go...
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Interesting that the writer predicts that Matz will be offered arbitration. I agree that he will be. 2020 was an aberration in many respects.
What the Wilpons have done is criminal. Wealthy people don't buy sports franchises to earn a living off of it. They want to earn a profit, but it's not a make or break situation. How could the other owners not see this and realize the Wilpons were not good for the league's image and overall health.
What type of deal does Nola have with Philly?
I would let guys like Castro, Heredia, and Gsellman walk. Not worth bring them back. I would attempt to trade Rosario for bullpen help. I would bring back J.D. Davis unless someone offers players that can help the Mets like bullpen help or a starting centerfielder. That centerfielder cannot be deadweight.
FWIW, Trevor Bauer's agent just "clarified" her client's prior comment that he was only interested in a one year deal. "We are open to & will be considering ALL types of deals," Luba said in a tweet.
Sounds like more of a retraction than a clarification, but whatever. We'll see what kind of interest the Mets will have.
Sounds like more of a retraction than a clarification, but whatever. We'll see what kind of interest the Mets will have.
If you have 15 minutes to spare, this is a great read. It ranks all 89 Met postseason games ever played, in terms of memorability (good or bad). Starting with #89, the forgotten Game 2 of the 2000 NLCS, Cards 8 Mets 2.
www.faithandfearinflushing.com
If you don't have 15 minutes right now, here's the Top 10.
10) 1999 NLDS Game 4 - Mets 4 Diamondbacks 3 (10 inn.) - Todd Pratt walks it off to dead center a millimeter over the glove of a leaping Steve Finley.
9) 1969 WS Game 4 - Mets 2 Orioles 1 (10 inn.) Ron Swoboda catch. JC Martin pinch bunt and gets hit by the throw (out of the baseline?)
8) 1969 WS Game 3 - Mets 5 Orioles 0 - Agee homers and saves five runs with two catches. The writer links these two games together.
7) 1999 NLCS Game 5 - Mets 4 Braves 3 (15 inn.) The Robin Ventura grand-single.
6) 1988 NLCS Game 4 - Dodgers 5 Mets 4 (12 inn.) D'oh! Scioscia ties it, Gibson wins it. The game that got away in the postseason that got away.
5) 1986 NLCS Game 6 - Mets 7 Astros 6 (16 inn.) Mets tie with with 3 in the ninth, take a 3 run lead in the 16th, and barely hang in. Orosco celebration #1.
4) 2006 NLCS Game 7 - Cardinals 3 Mets 1 - Another postseason that got away. Endy Chavez, Yadier Molina, and Carlos F'n Beltran. Kind of a shame that's how he's remembered. Nah, he's a cheater and we're better off without him.
3) 1986 WS Game 7 - Mets 8 Red Sox 5 - Orosco celebration #2. That one was sweet.
2) 1969 WS Game 5 - Mets 5 Orioles 3 - That one was, well, amazin'.
1) 1986 WS Game 6 - Mets 6 Red Sox 5 (10 inn.) Gets by Buckner! I was there, way up in the rafters in left field. A very memorable experience.
All 89 Mets Postseason Games Ranked « Faith and Fear in Flushing
If you don't have 15 minutes right now, here's the Top 10.
10) 1999 NLDS Game 4 - Mets 4 Diamondbacks 3 (10 inn.) - Todd Pratt walks it off to dead center a millimeter over the glove of a leaping Steve Finley.
9) 1969 WS Game 4 - Mets 2 Orioles 1 (10 inn.) Ron Swoboda catch. JC Martin pinch bunt and gets hit by the throw (out of the baseline?)
8) 1969 WS Game 3 - Mets 5 Orioles 0 - Agee homers and saves five runs with two catches. The writer links these two games together.
7) 1999 NLCS Game 5 - Mets 4 Braves 3 (15 inn.) The Robin Ventura grand-single.
6) 1988 NLCS Game 4 - Dodgers 5 Mets 4 (12 inn.) D'oh! Scioscia ties it, Gibson wins it. The game that got away in the postseason that got away.
5) 1986 NLCS Game 6 - Mets 7 Astros 6 (16 inn.) Mets tie with with 3 in the ninth, take a 3 run lead in the 16th, and barely hang in. Orosco celebration #1.
4) 2006 NLCS Game 7 - Cardinals 3 Mets 1 - Another postseason that got away. Endy Chavez, Yadier Molina, and Carlos F'n Beltran. Kind of a shame that's how he's remembered. Nah, he's a cheater and we're better off without him.
3) 1986 WS Game 7 - Mets 8 Red Sox 5 - Orosco celebration #2. That one was sweet.
2) 1969 WS Game 5 - Mets 5 Orioles 3 - That one was, well, amazin'.
1) 1986 WS Game 6 - Mets 6 Red Sox 5 (10 inn.) Gets by Buckner! I was there, way up in the rafters in left field. A very memorable experience.
Jerry Reinsdorf, who owns the White Sox, is on the Ownership Committee. In all likelihood he was the opposing vote. Looks like he was unsuccessful in getting support for his position.
Wilpon is also on that Committee, I assume he had to recuse.
While nothing will be finalized until after the WS, it does appear that this is being fast tracked.
Wilpon is also on that Committee, I assume he had to recuse.
While nothing will be finalized until after the WS, it does appear that this is being fast tracked.
It serves no purpose to vote down Cohen. Reinsdorf has shown in the past he would cut his nose off to spite his face. How about when he broke up the Chicago Bulls in the late 90s for no reason other to show he's boss. An *ss being an *ss. The Bulls haven't been the same since.
Honestly, what is the argument against Cohen? Are they afraid he will try to spend his way to a WS? The insider trading thing? Hell, Steinbrenner was a convicted felon and the Wilpons were knee deep in a Ponzi scheme with Madoff. Is Cohen any worse?
Yes, those are the arguments. Plus the sexual harassment charges in his investment firm.
Steinbrenner and Wilpon is not an exact parallel. They were already members of the club. It's a lot easier to deny membership to an applicant, than to throw out an existing member.
That said, the reports all along were that there would be no SIGNIFICANT opposition, and so far that appears to be the case. This is a case where a rising tide lifts all boats. The Cohen purchase improves the valuation of all franchises.
I thought the argument was you can only have one team per city that "tries" to spend their way to a WS win? 😁
I thought it concerned all the Mets faithful that have been crying about other teams spending top dollar to improve their team and now hypocritically calling for Mets ownership to try to buy a championship.
A possible wrinkle in the Cohen sale of which I was unaware. NYC owns the land on which the stadium is built, and leases it to the Mets. There is a clause in the lease agreement which empowers the Mayor to veto a sale of the team, if the buyer has been found guilty of a felony.
While Cohen personally has never been charged, his investment firm has pled guilty of a felony, and has been fined $1.8B.
To my knowledge, there is no reason to believe that de Blasio will veto the sale. Even if he wanted to, it's unclear to me whether the sanctions against Cohen's company (not him personally) would empower him to do so. But IF (big if) de Blasio were inclined to do so, he could tie this thing up in litigation for a while. Perhaps a longer while than the Wilpons would like.
This may be worth keeping an eye on. However, I am confident that a mutually advantageous resolution will be reached. You may interpret that as you will.
While Cohen personally has never been charged, his investment firm has pled guilty of a felony, and has been fined $1.8B.
To my knowledge, there is no reason to believe that de Blasio will veto the sale. Even if he wanted to, it's unclear to me whether the sanctions against Cohen's company (not him personally) would empower him to do so. But IF (big if) de Blasio were inclined to do so, he could tie this thing up in litigation for a while. Perhaps a longer while than the Wilpons would like.
This may be worth keeping an eye on. However, I am confident that a mutually advantageous resolution will be reached. You may interpret that as you will.
Mets' sale to Steve Cohen still has one hurdle to clear: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio
The sale of the New York Mets to Steve Cohen for $2.475 billion is set to be voted on by MLB owners, but the city's mayor will have a say before then.
www.usatoday.com
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A possible wrinkle in the Cohen sale of which I was unaware. NYC owns the land on which the stadium is built, and leases it to the Mets. There is a clause in the lease agreement which empowers the Mayor to veto a sale of the team, if the buyer has been found guilty of a felony.
While Cohen personally has never been charged, his investment firm has pled guilty of a felony, and has been fined $1.8B.
To my knowledge, there is no reason to believe that de Blasio will veto the sale. Even if he wanted to, it's unclear to me whether the sanctions against Cohen's company (not him personally) would empower him to do so. But IF (big if) de Blasio were inclined to do so, he could tie this thing up in litigation for a while. Perhaps a longer while than the Wilpons would like.
This may be worth keeping an eye on. However, I am confident that a mutually advantageous resolution will be reached. You may interpret that as you will.
Mets' sale to Steve Cohen still has one hurdle to clear: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio
The sale of the New York Mets to Steve Cohen for $2.475 billion is set to be voted on by MLB owners, but the city's mayor will have a say before then.www.usatoday.com
It's nothing. Reinsdorf and A-Rod have been leaking all this negative stuff this whole time.
DiComo reports that for the fifth consecutive year, the Mets don't have any Gold Glove nominees. Longest such streak in MLB.
Not sure that changes in an Alderson regime.
Not sure that changes in an Alderson regime.
It's somewhat bias. If you establish yourself, then sometime you win even though you might not be at the top of your game compared to others who had a better defensive season.
de Blowzio may block Mets ownership deal. 🤣
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NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio could block Mets deal because of clause in Citi Field lease agreement: report
The sale of the New York Mets to billionaire hedge fund mogul Steve Cohen received an almost unanimous vote by the MLB ownership committee on Tuesday but the deal could potentially fall through before the final vote next month if New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio were to deny the sale.
I believe Nola is 4/45 mil...we may even opt to go 4/50 and that would be fair based on a bad year and then injury.
I kind of think I may want to keep Rosario if I am not blown away with a trade as he is actually a good ball player and will be in the league for a long time still. JD is one of my favorites but he may also be our best trade bait.
Funny thing in my mind...if we were to trade Davis for let's say a good RP and either a couple of top prospects/draft picks...Then do we make a hard press for DJ L? Either drive up what Yanks need to pay him or sign one of the best players in the game that plays well no matter what position he plays much like McNeil...
We know your praying for it,lolololol. How's that New Core 4 working out for you?de Blowzio may block Mets ownership deal. 🤣
NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio could block Mets deal because of clause in Citi Field lease agreement: report
The sale of the New York Mets to billionaire hedge fund mogul Steve Cohen received an almost unanimous vote by the MLB ownership committee on Tuesday but the deal could potentially fall through before the final vote next month if New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio were to deny the sale.
I'm not for anything de Blowzio stands for 😉
SNY reporting that the vote is expected THIS WEEK!
Wilson Ramos would have not missed that ball thrown in from right field by the Dodgers in the 4th or 5th game of the world series. However, his sweep take would have been so slow, the runner still would have scored.
Newsday also reporting that Mets will decline options on the two rentals, Frazier and Chirinos. Certainly no surprises there.
This essentially leaves them with just Nido and Sanchez at C. Obviously they will be acquiring a catcher. The question is who.
I want Realmuto!!! If JT isn't available, how about McCann? He won't tie you down with the years JT wants.
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