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OT: New York Mets 2020-2021 Off Season Thread

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I actually think the Mets shouldn't have signed Bauer since hes overrated and the Mets are going to regret this one way or another. But dont have a fit when someone else is doing something the Yankees have done for years.
if the deal is good and short who cares. If he got what he was looking for or more than deGrom its a disaster.
 
Say goodbye to Conforto and/or deGrom.

I'm not even beginning up Syndergaard, Lindor, and others
 
I’ve heard it’s 3 for $95M with player option after year 1. Hopefully Trevor bails after a year after being a mediocre #4 starter with a slightly better than .500 record. Caveat being that Trevor has admitted to cheating last year, so if he is willing to cheat this year and maintain his inflated spin rate, I’m a fan.
 
He's gonna sign with the Amazins.
Their final move in an effort to buy their way into being a contender.
Will this put their salary higher than the Yankees? Oh, and why are you in here? How's buying a Championship worked out for the Yankees the last 12 years? Have you seen how pathetic the traffic is on the Yankee thread? Embarrassing how little interest the greatest fan base in baseball has. 23K-5k views, 2K replies to ,are you ready, 232,replies, oh my, what a joke.
 
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I’ve heard it’s 3 for $95M with player option after year 1. Hopefully Trevor bails after a year after being a mediocre #4 starter with a slightly better than .500 record. Caveat being that Trevor has admitted to cheating last year, so if he is willing to cheat this year and maintain his inflated spin rate, I’m a fan.
3 years good. $95 million?? Are they (Dodgers and Met) insane??
 
It's hard to find any detail on the Mets' offer to Bauer. The little info I've read on the deal is the Mets offering a 3 or 4-year deal for $100 million. There may be an opt-out clause after one year for Bauer. The deal may be front-loaded and have deferments.
 
It's hard to find any detail on the Mets' offer to Bauer. The little info I've read on the deal is the Mets offering a 3 or 4-year deal for $100 million. There may be an opt-out clause after one year for Bauer. The deal may be front-loaded and have deferments.
Front loading is dumb by any team but not as bad as deferment aka Bobby Bonilla
 
I actually think the Mets shouldn't have signed Bauer since hes overrated and the Mets are going to regret this one way or another. But dont have a fit when someone else is doing something the Yankees have done for years.
"Don't have a fit" ????? Who is having a fit ?
For years I've listened to Mets fans cry about the Yankees opening their checkbook to acquire talent.
I'm actually happy that the hypocrisy is now out there in the open.
I've always maintained that I want every team that I root for to do everything it could within the rules to improve its talent. And I have no problem with any other team doing so. I just wanna remind fans of the Amazins of their change in attitude when it's their team doing the shopping.
 
Front loading is dumb by any team but not as bad as deferment aka Bobby Bonilla
I see Cohen biting the bullet for now, but it will be easy to unload him since the remaining part of the contract isn't bloated if it doesn't work out. The homegrown talent like Dom and McNeil will be in a position for big contracts by then.
 
Was it kbee or a different amigo that was all concerned on us having Reyes on the team and now can't wait for German to be back on the Yankees?
I do know that kbee was very stressed about the ease of our schedule- which happens to be the toughest division in MLB. Sort of like a ACC fan trying to talk shat about a 9 game B1G schedule...
I wasn't stressed. And in fact the Amazins schedule WAS indeed easy back during a stretch of games in the season in which I pointed it out. It wasn't 2020.
Their division has gotten much tougher.
But then you know that. Why can't you be honest about that statement of mine from a few years back ?
 
"Don't have a fit" ????? Who is having a fit ?
For years I've listened to Mets fans cry about the Yankees opening their checkbook to acquire talent.
I'm actually happy that the hypocrisy is now out there in the open.
I've always maintained that I want every team that I root for to do everything it could within the rules to improve its talent. And I have no problem with any other team doing so. I just wanna remind fans of the Amazins of their change in attitude when it's their team doing the shopping.
Show me where I cried about the Yankees spending that much money? I dare you. I thought they were stupid for spending that money and going away from what got them the 4 rings in the 90s, which was the home grown talent that got them there.

And with Bauer, they shouldn’t even think of this overrated pitcher.
 
Front loading is dumb by any team but not as bad as deferment aka Bobby Bonilla
Front loading is not at all dumb in this instance. Cohen is probably very willing to take a big bath this year. The luxury tax for a one-time offender is currently minimal. What he does not want to do is consistently be over the tax. Especially since the rules may change in 2022.

Front loading may serve as an incentive for Bauer to opt out, figuring he's already made his money. Which might just be exactly what the Mets are hoping for.

Yes, deferment aka Bobby Bonilla is dumb. However, I doubt that Cohen is counting on Ponzi scheme revenues to offset an 8% interest rate on the deferral. Deferral is quite common and beneficial to both parties. I know that a good chunk of Mookie Betts' contract is deferred. In this case, deferral might help Mets get under the luxury tax when Cano's salary kicks back in.
 
Front loading is not at all dumb in this instance. Cohen is probably very willing to take a big bath this year. The luxury tax for a one-time offender is currently minimal. What he does not want to do is consistently be over the tax. Especially since the rules may change in 2022.

Front loading may serve as an incentive for Bauer to opt out, figuring he's already made his money. Which might just be exactly what the Mets are hoping for.

Yes, deferment aka Bobby Bonilla is dumb. However, I doubt that Cohen is counting on Ponzi scheme revenues to offset an 8% interest rate on the deferral. Deferral is quite common and beneficial to both parties. I know that a good chunk of Mookie Betts' contract is deferred. In this case, deferral might help Mets get under the luxury tax when Cano's salary kicks back in.
No matter how they slice to pie it affects the cap number so they could have dead salary when he plays on another team. And deGroms agent won't be happy
 
5 out his 7 season he's had an ERA above 4. He's also kind of a d**k. Can't see him doing well with the NYC media. But it's not my money and if he's a stud in 2021, the Mets will have the best rotation in baseball.

Also, his agent is dirty dirty.
 
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Evan Roberts is reporting that the Mets offer is 3 years at $93 million, with the first year at $37 million, followed by an opt out.
 
Say goodbye to Conforto and/or deGrom.

I'm not even beginning up Syndergaard, Lindor, and others
Why do you say that? How does the offer to Bauer impact Conforto or Degrom? Bauer can opt out after year 1 and Conforto has Boras as his agent.
 
Absolutely love all the activity this off season Mets board has had. Hopefully spring training starts on time as well as the season. Mets fans are all about the team and baseball, pure love of the sport.
 
Still don't really want Bauer but the shorter contract makes it a little more palatable if the 3/93 with a player opt out after year 1 is accurate. Seemed important to him to top Cole for highest annual salary and if the offer is $37MM for year one than I guess he can technically claim victory for the coming season. Rings hollow to me given the financial commitments associated with both contracts
 
Front loading is not at all dumb in this instance. Cohen is probably very willing to take a big bath this year. The luxury tax for a one-time offender is currently minimal. What he does not want to do is consistently be over the tax. Especially since the rules may change in 2022.

Front loading may serve as an incentive for Bauer to opt out, figuring he's already made his money. Which might just be exactly what the Mets are hoping for.

Yes, deferment aka Bobby Bonilla is dumb. However, I doubt that Cohen is counting on Ponzi scheme revenues to offset an 8% interest rate on the deferral. Deferral is quite common and beneficial to both parties. I know that a good chunk of Mookie Betts' contract is deferred. In this case, deferral might help Mets get under the luxury tax when Cano's salary kicks back in.
The Bonilla deferment was and is not a dumb thing...It allowed the Met's to do many things at the time and let's be honest, what does a million or so do in any given year going forward. It has not stopped the Met's from ever doing something. BTW- there are so many worse deferments in baseball. BTW- was quoting you as yours was the last comment- was more toward the post you are referring to..
 
I wasn't stressed. And in fact the Amazins schedule WAS indeed easy back during a stretch of games in the season in which I pointed it out. It wasn't 2020.
Their division has gotten much tougher.
But then you know that. Why can't you be honest about that statement of mine from a few years back ?
Here is the issue kbee- during that time, you non stop posted it for weeks. And I am assuming you are far from a dumb man, you know that in every sport and every season, there could be a team or two that go through an easy stretch and the next year if could be a difficult one. In baseball, more than any other sport, a bad team can beat a good team on any given day. But again, it was because you took over our thread with non stop posting to the point of being banned.
So, we only ask this- bring something of value to a thread that is created by a fan or fans of a team. Even if it isn't all roses, bring it up, maybe even bust our balls- but your way of just being an annoyance is, in fact, annoying...I think we have one of our fans that does the same in the Yankee thread, and he is treated the same way.
 
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Here is the issue kbee- during that time, you non stop posted it for weeks. And I am assuming you are far from a dumb man, you know that in every sport and every season, there could be a team or two that go through an easy stretch and the next year if could be a difficult one. In baseball, more than any other sport, a bad team can beat a good team on any given day. But again, it was because you took over our thread with non stop posting to the point of being banned.
So, we only ask this- bring something of value to a thread that is created by a fan or fans of a team. Even if it isn't all roses, bring it up, maybe even bust our balls- but your way of just being an annoyance is, in fact, annoying...I think we have one of our fans that does the same in the Yankee thread, and he is treated the same way.
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Earlier on- werent you delighting that Met's were only going with the bottom shelf FA's??? Ins't it great when you can talk out from both ends?
True, but I have been negative on TB from the beginning. He can be a team wrecker.
 
True, but I have been negative on TB from the beginning. He can be a team wrecker.
I actually don't disagree...besides what it may mean going forward with deGrom, Conforto, Lindor etc...what happens when he steps into a clubhouse that actually seems to be very functional and tries to have them change everything up to conform to him...
 
And paying all of this money for someone with similar career stats as Marcus Stroman? Hell, I dare say he’s not even Noah Syndergaard. But yeah, sure, let’s give him more money than two of the best pitchers in baseball because of a great two months in a sterile environment.
 
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FWIW - DiComo recently opined on the likelihood of the following players agreeing to extensions:

Lindor - 80%
Conforto - 50%
Syndergaard OR Stroman - 20%.

IMO if Bauer is signed for more than one year, that last projection becomes 0%.
 
FWIW - DiComo recently opined on the likelihood of the following players agreeing to extensions:

Lindor - 80%
Conforto - 50%
Syndergaard OR Stroman - 20%.

IMO if Bauer is signed for more than one year, that last projection becomes 0%.
Am I the only one here who wouldn’t mind extending those 3/4 instead of signing Bauer?
 
FWIW - DiComo recently opined on the likelihood of the following players agreeing to extensions:

Lindor - 80%
Conforto - 50%
Syndergaard OR Stroman - 20%.

IMO if Bauer is signed for more than one year, that last projection becomes 0%.
Noah has a lot to prove especially after TJ Surgery and he has not been exactly overwhelming the past few years. I would not resign Stroman

Pertaining to Conforto, Boras is a prick. Will be a nasty and possible extension not to occur given Boras.

Lindor will be extended
 
Noah has a lot to prove especially after TJ Surgery and he has not been exactly overwhelming the past few years. I would not resign Stroman
BOTH HAVE SIMILAR NUMBERS TO BAUER. RATHER KEEP ONE OR BOTH.

Pertaining to Conforto, Boras is a prick. Will be a nasty and possible extension not to occur given Boras.
YES BORAS IS A PRICK BUT LETS SEE HOW HE IS WITH COHEN. NO MATTER WHAT, NO WILPONS IS A PLUS.

Lindor will be extended
YUP!!! HOPEFULLY.
 
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