OT: New York Mets 2020-2021 Off Season Thread
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Let me see the Mets went from Wilpons 2.0 because of Robinhood and Cohen is broke to we are buying a Championship to missing out on top free agents to being disparate and over paying while buying a Championship to back to spending was just all talk. Let me see, did I cover everything the "invaders" were posting in the most active thread on these boards?
How many times can one person be wrong in one day? Do you often lament about the days when Big George would spend like a drunken sailor?
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Yeah, basically. The Yankee thread would have about 2 thousand more posts if the goalposts movers spent half the time there than they do here.
Mets swing and miss AGAIN on another top free agent.
Strike 1 = Springer
Strike 2 = Realmuto (Mets made $100m+ offer)
Strike 3 = TB played the Mets as suckers
But, losing out on TB is likely a blessing in disguise since he is a nut. So I am having an internal conflict on whether to make fun of or congratulate the Mets. LOL!
ESPN reporting that the deal is three years, $102M. First year $40M, second year $45M, with opt-outs after both years. So figure a guaranteed opt out after Year 2, unless he totally loses it due to injury or whatnot, in which case he'll steal $17M from the Dodgers in Year 3.
You know who may be the biggest winner in all this? Jacob deGrom. If he thought he was wealthy before...
You know who may be the biggest winner in all this? Jacob deGrom. If he thought he was wealthy before...
I'd rather swing and miss than be saddled with that brilliant Stanton contract ,lmfao two of the 3 Amigos with nothing better than "liking" each other, too funny.
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You're wrong on Strike 1. Once the Mets acquired Lindor and Carrasco, they noticeably cooled on Springer. Even Cohen has his limits.
Strike 3 is spot on. TB and his agent used the Mets to bid up the price. Mets look bad in the short term, but ultimately who cares? Mets needed to get two frontline starters this offseason. They did - Stroman and Carrasco. Anything else is gravy.
I kind of agree with Strike 2. If they had known they weren't getting Bauer, the Mets may have gone harder after Realmuto instead of "settling" for McCann (who isn't a bad "settle" by any means).
Seriously man, leave the politics out of this.
Don’t forget LeMaheiu. Although I’m not sure if we offered.
Plus I didn’t realize that a pitcher who had a hellified 2 months was in high demand.
Sometimes I am not sure if T2K is just full out trolling and throwing shit out there to get reactions or really just dumb...
1- Offered Springer $30 mil less than what he got. Made a great baseball decision
2- Talked to Realmuto early- realized he wanted a ton of money and he was not going to sign early. So- decided to move on for more than half the money for a player that fits our needs and well above average for a catcher- good move but like many- I would have liked Realmuto at the contract he ended up signing. But Met's made a business decision.
3 - You are 100% right but in this case- looks like "Sucker" wins- if number are right- that is stupid money for this nutjob 4. something lifetime era pitcher.
Mets offered 80 M for first 2 with 30 for third yr
Dodgers offered 85 M for first 2 with 18 for third yr.
Dodgers offered 85 M for first 2 with 18 for third yr.
I guess Bauer just didn't want NY...Math doesn't add up...And again, so f-ing glad we didn't sign him for that.
too much money for him and he would have left anyway after year 2. Mets need to pay Lindor, Conforto, make a decision on Noah and will have to deal with an opt out for Jacob. If Bauer got that kind of money from the Mets, what in the world would they need to pay deGrom who is much better. Use the money saved to get Odorizzi , a RH hitting OF who can play center and a good Util INF.
Sign that Odorizzi guy, hope for the DH and then sign a CF like Bradley Jr
I think the Mets have had a fantastic offseason. They stole Lindor and Carrasco from the Indians, got a great defensive catcher with a solid righty bat for their lineup at 1/4 of the price of JT, drove up the price for the Dodgers on the nut job, can still sign a guy like Jackie Bradley Jr. and still have money left to extend Conforto. If they can sign Lindor to an extension too, this will be a top notch offseason. Maybe they will even sign a guy like Paxton for the rotation.
As an aside, I would like to see the Jets spend some money on a DB, but in an entirely different context.
Bauer with 5 seasons out of 7 with 4+ era 45 million lol
Stroman 2 season out of 6 with a 4+ era
Noah with 4 season out of 5 with 3.24 or less
Carrasco over his last 7 years only one year over 4
No need to discuss deGrom
Odorizzi 3 out of his 6 have been 4+ but much much cheaper
I'll be honest though...have a feeling Bauer will have a good year. But do not think he will have even a borderline HOF career.
What is the Mets next move? I think a trade rather than a free agent signing. Sandy is clearly uncomfortable with Davis at 3B.
No he continues to look like an ass. Cohen and the Mets should be thrilled not to get him!
As a Yankee fan I agree. People love Brian Cashman. Stanton is a perfect example of what a buffoon he is!
“Which pitcher would you rather have?” was the question - I added a qualifier. But I’d still take Bauer over the Stroman I saw pitch for us in 2019 at their ‘21 rates.
Seriously, you don't see the flip flopping? too obvious not to mention, "sorry" it won't happen again, I think. 😁
You would rather pay Bauer 40 mil over 18 for Stroman?????? Think about this- Carasco and Stroman and $10 mil left over...And one could easily argue Carasco over Bauer.
But let's say- Stroman goes 12-9 or something like that. Maybe a 3.90 era as a number 3...Bauer goes 15-7 with a 2.90 as a $40 mil guy...No way do I take Bauer for 40 over Stroman for 18. I think both are over paid but Stroman by 3-4 mil and Bauer by 20 mil
If Stanton can have a healthy season- it may not be as bad as it looks now- Yankees gave up nothing and Stanton is just money at this point. He doesn't really hurt you guys all that much. Cashman also made miracles happen for a couple of years recently when your whole team has been injured.
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