Can't make this up. You're taking the high road and in the same post call me a derogatory name you guys use on the CE board? Priceless.Well im taking the high road..nimbers is on an island now
Can't make this up. You're taking the high road and in the same post call me a derogatory name you guys use on the CE board? Priceless.Well im taking the high road..nimbers is on an island now
Idalia really looking healthier - much more concentric convection around the center - think it's going to be a cane shortly...
Edit - not so fast, still a TS, but the discussion just said it's almost a hurricane and many of the pros on the message boards think it's already a hurricane, but 5 mph really doesn't matter much. Almost zero change in the track and intensity forecasts with landfall likely in the Big Bend area as a 120 mph Cat 3 storm.
Tropical Storm Idalia Discussion Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL102023
1000 PM CDT Mon Aug 28 2023
Idalia is producing intense bursts of convection near the center,
with an overall comma-shaped cloud pattern along with a dry slot
over the western part of the circulation. Upper-level outflow is
restricted over the northwestern quadrant. Radar images from
the Meteorological Service of Cuba show a partial eyewall forming.
Flight-level and dropwindsonde data from NOAA and Air Force aircraft
indicate that Idalia is very near hurricane strength. The maximum
winds are set again to 60 kt for this advisory.
The system has moved a bit slower than earlier today with an
initial motion estimate of just slightly east of due north at
around 7 kt. Idalia should be steered northward along the western
side of a mid-level ridge and then turn north-northeastward due to
a trough to its northwest. This track will take the center across
the northeastern Gulf coast on Wednesday morning, and over
northern Florida and southeastern Georgia thereafter. In 2 to 3
days, a mid-tropospheric trough moving off the eastern U.S. coast
will likely cause the tropical cyclone to turn northeastward to
eastward off the coast of the Carolinas. The official track
forecast for this advisory is essentially the same as the previous
one. This is near the middle of the track guidance, which are
fairly tightly clustered, with the GFS on the left side and the
ECMWF on the right side.
Although Idalia is currently experiencing some moderate
northwesterly vertical wind shear, the dynamical guidance indicates
that the shear will lessen while the system is over the eastern
Gulf of Mexico. This, along with a conducive thermodynamic
atmospheric environment and high oceanic heat content, should cause
Idalia to strengthen rapidly in the 12- to 36-hour time frame. The
official intensity forecast, like the previous one, shows the system
becoming a major hurricane before landfall along the Florida Gulf
coast. This is in general agreement with the regional hurricane
hurricane models, HAFS and HWRF, but above much of the other
intensity guidance.
Idalia is forecast to move into an area that is highly susceptible
to storm surge, and regardless of the cyclone's specific landfall
intensity, there is increasing confidence that a significant storm
surge event will occur.
KEY MESSAGES:
1. There is a danger of life-threatening storm surge inundation
along portions of the Florida Gulf Coast where a Storm Surge Warning
is in effect, including Tampa Bay and the Big Bend region of
Florida. Inundation of 8 to 12 feet above ground level is expected
somewhere between Chassahowitzka and Aucilla River. Residents in
these areas should follow any advice given by local officials.
2. Hurricane conditions are expected within portions of the
Hurricane Warning area along the Florida Gulf Coast, with the
potential for destructive winds where the core of Idalia moves
onshore. Strong winds will also spread inland across portions of
northern Florida near the track of the center of Idalia.
3. Heavy rainfall from Tropical Storm Idalia is expected across
portions of western Cuba and may produce areas of flash and urban
flooding as well as landslides. Areas of flash and urban flooding,
some of which may be locally significant, are expected across
portions of the west coast of Florida, the Florida Panhandle, and
southern Georgia Tuesday into Wednesday, spreading into portions of
the eastern Carolinas Wednesday into Thursday.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 29/0300Z 22.0N 85.0W 60 KT 70 MPH
12H 29/1200Z 23.7N 85.0W 75 KT 85 MPH
24H 30/0000Z 26.2N 84.6W 90 KT 105 MPH
36H 30/1200Z 29.0N 83.7W 105 KT 120 MPH
48H 31/0000Z 31.5N 81.6W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND
60H 31/1200Z 33.2N 78.8W 50 KT 60 MPH...OVER WATER
72H 01/0000Z 34.0N 76.0W 50 KT 60 MPH
96H 02/0000Z 33.5N 72.0W 45 KT 50 MPH
120H 03/0000Z 33.0N 70.0W 45 KT 50 MPH
Unlikely, as the storm will be feeling a lot more shear from the big trough coming through the eastern US by Wednesday, which is shunting the storm east from SC/NC, rather than allowing it to head NE, like most Atlantic systems, but then again, beyond 5-6 days is difficult to predict.Any chance of reorganization over the Atlantic?
Unlikely, as the storm will be feeling a lot more shear from the big trough coming through the eastern US by Wednesday, which is shunting the storm east from SC/NC, rather than allowing it to head NE, like most Atlantic systems, but then again, beyond 5-6 days is difficult to predict.
No impact, especially that far west.How we looking at perdido key? Have a flight out wed.
Similarly to Tampa, except a bit worse, as it's ~20 miles north of Clearwater/Tampa, so the peak storm surge forecast there is 6-9' vs. 4-7' in Clearwater and they're more likely to get sustained hurricane force winds at the coast (70-75 mph range vs. maybe 60-65 mph in Clearwater). That's assuming the track goes towards Steinhatchee to Cedar Key, which is not a given. Recall that Ian shifted its track from about Tampa to just north of Fort Myers (~90 miles) in the last 2 days before landfall, so it's still possible that Port Richey will be impacted more seriously if the track shifts SE.How will Port Richey be impacted?
Yep, the GFS (AVNI in this graphic) shows that, although it would be pretty weak at that time, and other models show some looping possible, but not all the way back to FL.TWC this morning talking about the GFS showing potential for Idalia to reorg off the coast of FL and loop back, clockwise, toward the SE U.S. One model and too early to give it too much credence, but worth watching.
Idalia will likely be a strong TS with winds in the 60 mph range as it skirts the SE NC coast on Thursday with heavy rains (3-6") and minor storm surge. Nothing the area hasn't seen before, but there will be some impacts.Any idea what it might look like when crosses over southern NC coast, at least as of the current track?
Thanks
Well im taking the high road..nimbers is on an island now
You drove off the high road pretty quickly there bac.Wrong
Weather for Howard: PARTLY SUNNY HOT 90-95
Lots of focus on Hermine but when she pulls out, we will have temps around 90 or above late week, which may or may not last into Saturday depending on an approaching cold front. There may be more clouds and a shower chance that could keep us in the mid to upper 80s but nonetheless at this time...rutgers.forums.rivals.com
Some rain and some wind tomorrow (area is under a TS watch only), possibly gusting to 30-40 mph, but not a big deal for them and tomorrow morning ought to be fine, if a bit bumpy...
https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-81.77519&lat=24.56195
Good question. You gotta ask Numbers that one.
Another quick update with the intermediate 2 pm advisory: Idalia is now up to 90 mph and many of the pros on social media are thinking Idalia will start an RI (rapid intensification) period in about 6-8 hours with 125 mph at landfall possibly being lower than what we'll actually see. Also, several of the models have shifted landfall west by 20-40 miles mor toward Alligator Point (the "top" of the Big Bend). Will be interesting to see if the NHC responds to that by moving the track west - they don't like to zig-zag with forecasts, plus they have access to a helluva lot more data than most of us on line.Quick update. NHC 11 am advisory is out and Idalia is up to 85 mph and the forecast now calls for the hurricane to be very close to Cat 4 at landfall along the Big Bend area tomorrow morning (no track change), with winds of 125 mph (Cat 4 is 130 mph+) vs. the 120 mph forecast this morning (it keeps increasing).
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 29/1500Z 24.6N 84.8W 75 KT 85 MPH
12H 30/0000Z 26.5N 84.6W 90 KT 105 MPH
24H 30/1200Z 29.3N 83.7W 110 KT 125 MPH
36H 31/0000Z 31.8N 81.7W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND
48H 31/1200Z 33.5N 78.8W 45 KT 50 MPH...OVER WATER
60H 01/0000Z 34.1N 75.6W 45 KT 50 MPH
72H 01/1200Z 33.8N 73.0W 45 KT 50 MPH
96H 02/1200Z 32.5N 70.2W 45 KT 50 MPH
120H 03/1200Z 32.0N 68.8W 45 KT 50 MPH
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/093743.shtml?cone#contents
As far as I’m concerned #s adds value to this board with his weather threads
The few who troll him (you, bac, etc) are just odd and childish. Never understood the trolling of #s
Just an update on this, they had to divert to Miami and land. United doesn’t know when they’ll be able to fly into Key West, but hopefully soon
I suggest a hybrid auto/aquatic vehicle. It will help when those low lying areas in the Keys get submerged. In all seriousness, be safe and dont take any chances with whatever information you have. Safe travels and keep us updated.Have to spend night in Miami. Were Thinking of renting a car and driving….but may not wanna drive in those conditions
I suggest a hybrid auto/aquatic vehicle. It will help when those low lying areas in the Keys get submerged. In all seriousness, be safe and dont take any chances with whatever information you have. Safe travels and keep us updated.
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Have to spend night in Miami. Were Thinking of renting a car and driving….but may not wanna drive in those conditions
Definitely wait it out.
Pretty sure it's simply based on their political leanings.
yes, good, as the storm will be a bit further away, but the storm surge forecast is unchanged for that area and that's the #1 risk there...Is the nudge good or bad news for Tampa and more populated areas on the gulf coast?
Assume good?
Bac and Numbers have been slapboxing since way before Trump arrived on the political scene.If that is true then that is truly the most pathetic thing I have heard.
From Bach’s posts I get that he is a trumpy. So he just gives #s sh#t cause #s is liberal??
So you’re saying bac, etc have managed to politicize the friggin weather !?!
Pathetic
Not at all.will this have an impact on LSU FSU Sunday night?
Good 100%Is the nudge good or bad news for Tampa and more populated areas on the gulf coast?
Assume good?
Not quite. In addition to surge concerns, see my most recent post. There are very likely to be some small tornadoes on the eastern side of the storm in some of those spiral bands hitting the FL coast now and through the night. And even if no tornadoes, there will likely be some heavy squalls with high winds and torrential rains in those bands. But yes, nowhere near the direct hit it could've been, so Tampa has dodged another bullet.Good 100%
Just got off the phone with folks there (Clearwater/Riverview). Almost nothing there now.
Only thing that could be a problem is the moon tide + surge for the bay and rivers from SW winds. Far as I can tell.
That's an ugly train of cells man! And waay outer edge. 🙏Scary comment from a pro on AmericanWx: "Any one of these in the outer bands could become tornadic."