OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread
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I’m still baffled by Stroman taking 3 perfect pitches for strikes and standing there like stone-man with bases loaded no outs. A double play could would have at least scored a run, which is one more run than they got.
I have to wonder if they have the all time worst success rate with bases loaded and no outs.
I have to wonder if they have the all time worst success rate with bases loaded and no outs.
The game? Yes.
The season? You keep saying that, and eventually you will be right. Not yet though.
Well god bless you for believing that a team will change even though they keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Has a player come out and said , we flat out suck right now and this is unacceptable ???
Or do they keep saying it will be ok,we have a good bunch of guys in the Locker room and games really really don’t matter until September
Or do they keep saying it will be ok,we have a good bunch of guys in the Locker room and games really really don’t matter until September
Yep, and it had nothing to do with avoiding injury. It had everything to do with avoiding the DP, which came one batter later anyway.
To an emotional competitor like Stroman, this was a slap in the face.
I've been defending Rojas all year. Not tonight. His decision to give Stroman the bases loaded take sign on 0-0, 0-1, and 0-2 will get him killed in the media (probably nationally) and rightly so.
I would add that when this team was winning (sometimes) with the likes of Johneswhy Fargas, Jake Hager, and Mason Williams, it was a lot easier to root for.
I would add that when this team was winning (sometimes) with the likes of Johneswhy Fargas, Jake Hager, and Mason Williams, it was a lot easier to root for.
At least on 0-2 have Stro try and bunt down 3B line . Bohm is a throwing error machine and Stro is a good athlete . Foul bunt is auto out and no harm
Decent bunt, 1 run and second and third with one out
Decent bunt, 1 run and second and third with one out
Insanity: “doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
Fair point. They were probably in at the corners earlier in the count (I don't recall), but likely backed off with two strikes. A good bunt might have scored the run, even with the force at home. However, a bad bunt right back to the pitcher could have been a 1-2-3 DP.
Rojas was recklessly conservative on this one.
I remember when that was called "Practice makes perfect".
All 3 teams will be in this to the last week of the season. Not one is without problems that will cost plenty of games. This Mets fan hasn't given up, and how they come out of that span of games with the west coast teams will have a lot of say. I believe the winner of this division will be around 85-77. That would, in my mind have the Mets go 30-23, very doable, since I believe they can't continue to play this poor. LFGM
Is it me or they have been losing since Conforto came back and McKinney (or whatever his name was) was DFAed and was claimed like 10 minutes later?
Which kind of goes along with deGrom going down, Walker crashing to earth, Stroman being inconsistent - there is no difference in this offense from day 1 to day 60 until now, the difference is that our starters are no longer holding teams to about 2 runs a game.
Many issues on team. Some correctable some not so easy. Our defense was excellent the first of the season, now not so much, Conforto looks lost, not only at the plate but now in the outfield. We need to be More selective at the plate. This drives up pitch counts and gets us quicker into the opponents bullpens. Jake being out moves our #2 pitcher to # 1 #3 to 2 etc etc. The team a few miles down the road from us builds an offense that is conducive to its stadium. If HRs are much more difficult at Citifield then stop swinging for the fences on every pitch ( at this point in time other than Pete and occasionally Baez no one else can get the ball out at our stadium). Watching Stro take three strikes killed me ( yes I get that he was told not to swing). Nimmo had to be smarter. He already is not running full speed. Look for a ball you can drive to the outfield. Worst case you have a chance for a sac fly. Finally, I have not been too critical of Rojas but last night was the last straw. You know how Diaz is in non save situations. There isn’t a small sample. We are already in August.
I will not give up ( Hey we all are Rutgers fans we should never give up). I hold out out of a Baez/Lindor DB combo, Jake coming back and hopefully getting something out of Thor before the end of the season. We also have 3 of the top 25 prospects that thankfully were not traded
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I will not give up ( Hey we all are Rutgers fans we should never give up). I hold out out of a Baez/Lindor DB combo, Jake coming back and hopefully getting something out of Thor before the end of the season. We also have 3 of the top 25 prospects that thankfully were not traded
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What makes you think the Mets won't continue to poorly? They have done the opposite of what everyone expected. We are down to the last 1/3 of the season, and this team is still having the same issues they had from day 1. This may not be their season. If you think about it, they have performed similarly to last year with mostly the same players and coaching staff. Maybe we set ourselves up thinking this year is different.
We all say things will balance themselves out in the end, but it hasn't. We knew the pitching would come back to earth, but at the same time, we expected the offense to bounce back and even things out. Unfortunately, the offense hasn't shown up all season. The offense may not be that good, and we were fooling ourselves.
Wait, yes it's the final 3rd of the season, but you say from day 1 they've had similar issues, yet weren't they in 1st place for 3 months? The teams they are in this race with don't have all their problems solved do they? Maybe, just maybe, my prediction of 85 wins takes the division is an overestimate? Maybe I'm just being optimistic and not a Debbie Downer. Maybe the only thing I'll have left is watching the Yankees crash and burn and seeing The Dead Zone go back into hibernation. Either way, I have plenty to watch the final 2 months of the season. 😁
But if we criticize the team; you know the ones making millions to perform even to the minimum; then were bad fans or whiners according to a couple of people here. No names mentioned.
Well coming here to gloat is no fun. You guys are sad enough. Any one going to either game left this weekend?
Fun fact, only one team in MLB has not had a four game losing streak all season. Can you guess which team? HINT: This is a Mets thread.
They had a seven game and a five game win streak in May, but nothing close to that since.
They had a seven game and a five game win streak in May, but nothing close to that since.
Fun fact, the Mets is in the BOTTOM 10 of EVERY hitting category in 2021 and the front office did ABSOLUTE ZIPPO to improve that. That’s why they’re freefalling until the end of the season and everyone in the front office must be fired.
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But they did add a guy who will hit the occasional solo home run. But strike out most times with men on base. As if we didn't have enough of that already.Fun fact, the Mets is in the BOTTOM 10 of EVERY hitting category in 2021 and the front office did ABSOLUTE ZIPPO to improve that. That’s why they’re freefalling until the end of the season and everyone in the front office must be fired.
2024 MLB Team Hitting Stat Leaders
The official source for MLB team hitting stats, home runs, batting average, OPS and stat leaders
Those pitch calls were reminiscent of the old days, when umpires were much worse at calling balls and strike than they are now, so it's not surprising that was an old-guard umpire doing it. The presence of the elctronic-TV strike zone has had two clear but inconsistent effects: (1) fans complain more about balls and strikes; and (2) umpires are much better at calling balls and strikes.
For those who don't know or don't recall how bad umpires used to be at calling balls and strikes (before the electonic strike zone and grading off it reeled them in), they often used to have their own individual strike zones, wouldn't call anything above the belt and sometimes called strikes on pitches that were crazy outside. Here's a clip of Eric Gregg in the '90s, who is admittedly an extreme example but far from alone. Note that the electronic strike zone in this video clip appears to have been superimposed later for purposes of the video but is still a useful reference:
The umps are light years better now. Fans quibble about strikes that are slight misses--maybe a fraction of the ball size one way or the other--with the worst calls generally being only off by the size of the ball. The bad calls in the past were really bad. The umps were often more than a foot off, particularly on outside pitches, and most umps simply ignored the strike zone above the belt (I noticed that the umps in the Olympics are still doing this). That's because the ramifications for umps making bad calls were limited then, and umps weren't forced to deal with an electronic zone showing their mistakes on every single pitch during the games and on sport shows that night. So they got better. Complain as you see fit, but know that these guys are doing it as well and better than umps ever have.
JD away from team , comes back and has a few good games
Now that he’s back with this current staff and their hitting approach and analytic bull-💩 he completely sucks now. He keeps missing several pitches every at bat right down the middle
Now that he’s back with this current staff and their hitting approach and analytic bull-💩 he completely sucks now. He keeps missing several pitches every at bat right down the middle
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