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OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

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So- for the guys that want Villar, Pillar, Peraza
We had 6 guys play today that are our true starters. They went 11 for 25
That defensive gem every 5 games or so just can’t compete with offense. Can’t wait to get Nimmo and Davis back
 
So- for the guys that want Villar, Pillar, Peraza
We had 6 guys play today that are our true starters. They went 11 for 25
That defensive gem every 5 games or so just can’t compete with offense. Can’t wait to get Nimmo and Davis back
Villar is far superior to Davis on D, and he hits pretty well too. I’d rather have his defense at 3rd.
 
Villar is far superior to Davis on D, and he hits pretty well too. I’d rather have his defense at 3rd.
He is the one guy. But, if Davis was at .300 10+ hr 40 rbi right now. It would be a tough call. Now, if NL goes DH next year, we are in great shape.
 
Just doing their job. Good luck arguing that umpires should not implement what they’ve been ordered to implement.
Mostly directed to Manfred, who could’ve had the same urgency while investigating the Astros. But too bad their performances have been being horrible for years before this so they deserve some vitriol.
 
Nimmo played five innings for Syracuse last night. Expect to see him next week. Betances pitched a scoreless inning. Will be interesting to see if them use him again tonight. Mets likely won't activate him until he has gone back to back with no ill effects.
 
Do the Mets call up the Stock kid they picked up on waivers from the Cubs to start one of the games of the double header?
 
Mets #1 draft picks over the years. Some interesting tidbits and lots and lots of busts. Never knew Dom Smith and Gregg Jeffries attended the same high school.

 
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Dude is definitely a smart savvy player. That drag bunt was a thing of beauty and perfectly timed.
Guillorme doesn't fit today's player. He's not homerun threat and makes his name on defense, but he has a place on this team. Add the fact he appears to be a solid hitter makes you appreciate him even more.
 
Is it because he’s a contact hitter who is probably one of the best gloves on the team and is not a 30HR /120 RBI guy?

Guillorme doesn't fit today's player. He's not homerun threat and makes his name on defense, but he has a place on this team. Add the fact he appears to be a solid hitter makes you appreciate him even more.
He is a guy that you find on many championship teams. Similar to the type of bench we put together this year. Guillorme will be a guy that 10 years from now, you may not know where he is playing but you will see his name pop up from time to time. Solid ball player.
 
BTW- very solid performance last night by the kid in his first game. It wasn't dominant but exactly what was needed. 2 runs in just over 4 innings against a top offense...I would have signed up for that.
 
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BTW- very solid performance last night by the kid in his first game. It wasn't dominant but exactly what was needed. 2 runs in just over 4 innings against a top offense...I would have signed up for that.
Agreed. I was so hoping he could get thru that 5th inning. But he kind of hit a wall and after walking the pitcher it was time. The win was most important.
 
Is it because he’s a contact hitter who is probably one of the best gloves on the team and is not a 30HR /120 RBI guy?
I understood his role as a defensive infielder but I just felt with a 4 man bench you needed someone who could hit a little more consistently in the PH role. I will say in the last two years he has shown he can get on base and make better contact. Never had an issue with his glove.
 
I understood his role as a defensive infielder but I just felt with a 4 man bench you needed someone who could hit a little more consistently in the PH role. I will say in the last two years he has shown he can get on base and make better contact. Never had an issue with his glove.
You've grown accustomed to home run or nothing. Everyone wants 50 home runs while accepting 150 strikeouts as the norm. Guys Tony Gwynn would be viewed as weird in today's game because he doesn't survive by the long ball or strikeout much.
 
Do the Mets call up the Stock kid they picked up on waivers from the Cubs to start one of the games of the double header?
Nope. Thanks to the off day, they're fine for the DH. They have Peterson and Walker rested and ready, Then deGrom Saturday, and Stroman or Eickhoff Sunday.

They need a starter for Monday's makeup game in DC. If Stroman can go Sunday, it will be Eickhoff. Otherwise it will be a Megill/Oswalt repeat.

Then (assuming Stroman is still a no go) they need a starter for Tuesday, as neither Peterson nor Walker would be on full rest. Maybe we see Stock then?

To me the wild card is does deGrom start Saturday. That would line him up for Thursday of next week, Tuesday the following, and then Sunday just before the break. Which pretty much puts him out of the All Star Game. That would give MLB a bad case of the sads. Do the Mets care? Perhaps more importantly, does deGrom?
 
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You've grown accustomed to home run or nothing. Everyone wants 50 home runs while accepting 150 strikeouts as the norm. Guys Tony Gwynn would be viewed as weird in today's game because he doesn't survive by the long ball or strikeout much.
Actually I am not a fan of home run or nothing baseball. If you read my posts I advocate pitching and defense first with a lineup that features some speed at the top. I'd kill for a Gwynn or Boggs on this team but that is not Sandy's MO or the MO of the game in general anymore. The closest team to my idea of how the game should be played was last year's Rays. In the top 3 in defense, with good speed, decent power and strong pitching.

My complaint in the past about Guillorme was he could not hit period when he was getting called up. It seems since last year he has adjusted and can put the ball in play. Before he seemed like any contact resulted in a weak ground ball.

This year's bench is the type I was advocating for for many years.
 
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You've grown accustomed to home run or nothing. Everyone wants 50 home runs while accepting 150 strikeouts as the norm. Guys Tony Gwynn would be viewed as weird in today's game because he doesn't survive by the long ball or strikeout much.
Shoot, Ichiro would’ve been sent to the minors to work on his launch angle lol.
 
Nope. Thanks to the off day, they're fine for the DH. They have Peterson and Walker rested and ready, Then deGrom Saturday, and Stroman or Eickhoff Sunday.

They need a starter for Monday's makeup game in DC. If Stroman can go Sunday, it will be Eickhoff. Otherwise it will be a Megill/Oswalt repeat.

Then (assuming Stroman is still a no go) they need a starter for Tuesday, as neither Peterson nor Walker would be on full rest. Maybe we see Stock then?

To me the wild card is does deGrom start Saturday. That would line him up for Thursday of next week, Tuesday the following, and then Sunday just before the break. Which pretty much puts him out of the All Star Game. That would give MLB a bad case of the sads. Do the Mets care? Perhaps more importantly, does deGrom?
If I am the Met's- deGrom never steps on the mound for the AS Game.
 
Actually I am not a fan of home run or nothing baseball. If you read my posts I advocate pitching and defense first with a lineup that features some speed at the top. I'd kill for a Gwynn or Boggs on this team but that is not Sandy's MO or the MO of the game in general anymore. The closest team to my idea of how the game should be played was last year's Rays. In the top 3 in defense, with good speed, decent power and strong pitching.

My complaint in the past about Guillorme was he could not hit period when he was getting called up. It seems since last year he has adjusted and can put the ball in play. Before he seemed like any contact resulted in a weak ground ball.

This year's bench is the type I was advocating for for many years.
Last year, I think Keith or Darling mentioned Guillorme retooled his swing and approach with the help of a hitting coach (outside the organization) during the off-season
 
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Listened to pregame and first half of game on WCBS AM. They interviewed Conforto, and he effusively praised Lindor and his leadership. During the game, Howie Rose noted that having Conforto back in the lineup took some pressure off of Lindor and will effect how pitchers pitch to Lindor. Hopefully, last night was the beginning of a surging offense.
 
Nope. Thanks to the off day, they're fine for the DH. They have Peterson and Walker rested and ready, Then deGrom Saturday, and Stroman or Eickhoff Sunday.

They need a starter for Monday's makeup game in DC. If Stroman can go Sunday, it will be Eickhoff. Otherwise it will be a Megill/Oswalt repeat.

Then (assuming Stroman is still a no go) they need a starter for Tuesday, as neither Peterson nor Walker would be on full rest. Maybe we see Stock then?

To me the wild card is does deGrom start Saturday. That would line him up for Thursday of next week, Tuesday the following, and then Sunday just before the break. Which pretty much puts him out of the All Star Game. That would give MLB a bad case of the sads. Do the Mets care? Perhaps more importantly, does deGrom?
I'm kind of hoping to be able to see deGrom mowing down Yankees on Friday July 2nd.
 
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I'm kind of hoping to be able to see deGrom mowing down Yankees on Friday July 2nd.
If they go that route, which they may, then he misses a start before the break. He would get to start the ASG though.

I could care less about mowing down the Yankees. Division games are more important.
 
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I don't want him pitching in the AS game. Selfish of me but we are in a pennant race and every start he gives us is important.
 
Since there is no game tonite, lets switch gears and talk MLB draft. Mets have the 10th pick. The consensus top ten picks include a catcher Henry Davis you may go #1 but probably in the top 4. There are 4 HS shortstops in the top 10, 1 HS pitcher, 3 college pitchers (All RHPs) and 1 OF (split between Colton Cowser and Sal Froelich). Froelich appears to be similar to the kid the Mets drafted last year and Cowser is compared to Brandon Nimmo.
You be the GM and assuming you could chose any of the above, who do you go with? For me I am hoping either of the Vandy pitchers, Leiter or Rocker fall to us at 10. Either could be major league ready in 1-2 years.
 
Since there is no game tonite, lets switch gears and talk MLB draft. Mets have the 10th pick. The consensus top ten picks include a catcher Henry Davis you may go #1 but probably in the top 4. There are 4 HS shortstops in the top 10, 1 HS pitcher, 3 college pitchers (All RHPs) and 1 OF (split between Colton Cowser and Sal Froelich). Froelich appears to be similar to the kid the Mets drafted last year and Cowser is compared to Brandon Nimmo.
You be the GM and assuming you could chose any of the above, who do you go with? For me I am hoping either of the Vandy pitchers, Leiter or Rocker fall to us at 10. Either could be major league ready in 1-2 years.
I would have always said a corner OF until recently. But with the fact that Jake just turned 33, and we have no sure fire ace type coming down the pipeline, I would say get the most major league ready stud pitcher if we can.
 
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I would have always said a corner OF until recently. But with the fact that Jake just turned 33, and we have no sure fire ace type coming down the pipeline, I would say get the most major league ready stud pitcher if we can.
Agree- we have a stud C in the minors and locked into McCann for 4 years. We have a stud SS in the minors and locked into our SS for 10 years. OF- can always use good ones but do you go for a guy who projects to be Nimmo or just extend Nimmo?
HS pitcher- nah...but, I have heard that Leiter is projected top of the order type guy and that his teammate Rocker may be even better.
 
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He is the one guy. But, if Davis was at .300 10+ hr 40 rbi right now. It would be a tough call. Now, if NL goes DH next year, we are in great shape.
The pitching, shifting, and D have been saving this team. As big of a disappointment as Lindor has been, he gets to a lot more balls than Rosario did. I love Nimmo, but our CF is better without him there. McCann/Nido are a tremendous defensive improvement over Ramos. I’ll take the D right now.
 
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The pitching, shifting, and D have been saving this team. As big of a disappointment as Lindor has been, he gets to a lot more balls than Rosario did. I love Nimmo, but our CF is better without him there. McCann/Nido are a tremendous defensive improvement over Ramos. I’ll take the D right now.
We can't live with a CF who hits .227 with .266 OBP even if he were P Blair
Villar- I can live with him at 3B but still think we are a better team if he is giving our starters a break or coming off the bench as a super Util.
We hung on for our lives with shifting and D but that is only because we had super pitching. And we all knew that on any given day, if our guy gave up 3...we were toast. It isn't sustainable.
 
We can't live with a CF who hits .227 with .266 OBP even if he were P Blair
Villar- I can live with him at 3B but still think we are a better team if he is giving our starters a break or coming off the bench as a super Util.
We hung on for our lives with shifting and D but that is only because we had super pitching. And we all knew that on any given day, if our guy gave up 3...we were toast. It isn't sustainable.
Actually, I’d rather Pillar in CF and Nimmo in left. I realize Pillar’s obp is low but his obs is an ok 667. Dom Smith’s OBP is only .319 and he’s a terrible outfielder.
 
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