OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

[Doctor Worm]

I don't want to spend the a top ten draft pick on a HS pitcher. Too risky. Either of the Vandy pitchers would be nice but I doubt either will be available.

One unique aspect of the MLB draft is that picks are non-negotiable. Can't trade up or down. Nor can you trade a pick for an established player.

I looked at four mocks and each had the Mets taking a different player, so who knows.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I don't want to spend the a top ten draft pick on a HS pitcher. Too risky. Either of the Vandy pitchers would be nice but I doubt either will be available.

One unique aspect of the MLB draft is that picks are non-negotiable. Can't trade up or down. Nor can you trade a pick for an established player.

I looked at four mocks and each had the Mets taking a different player, so who knows.

Since the HS kid isn’t named Gooden- I wouldn’t go that direction. If I couldn’t get either college pitcher, I go fo BPA. Regardless of position

 

[MadRU]

Mets purchased the contract of pitcher Vance Worley. Assigned to AAA

 

[FrankZ]

Have to give Diaz his props. From trash to trumpets two seasons later is an amazin’ turn-around. Still loathe the trade, but that was never on him.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Have to give Diaz his props. From trash to trumpets two seasons later is an amazin’ turn-around. Still loathe the trade, but that was never on him.

Not even 2 season- he really only had a single season blip.

 

[FrankZ]

Not even 2 season- he really only had a single season blip.

“2 seasons later”

 

[yesrutgers01]

“2 seasons later”

Yeah- it was only the next season after his one bad year.
But I do agree- have to give him his due.
When used correctly, I have more confidence in him than any Met closer in a long time.

 

[Knight Shift]

Two takes. Agree with reply more than original tweet.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Actually, I’d rather Pillar in CF and Nimmo in left. I realize Pillar’s obp is low but his obs is an ok 667. Dom Smith’s OBP is only .319 and he’s a terrible outfielder.

You know there's no DH right. What are we gonna move Dom to first since he's a far superior defender than Alonso?

 

[cicero grimes]

I would love to step on the Phils this weekend. Phils are 13-23 on the road. Need to win this series and then get the makeup game on Monday. After that we get the Braves Yanks and Brew Crew going onto the break. If we struggle the surging Nats could catch us before the AS game. Next two weeks are critical.

 

[yesrutgers01]

You know there's no DH right. What are we gonna move Dom to first since he's a far superior defender than Alonso?

This is the problem...we can't sit Dom even when he is in a slump. You can't sit Nimmo either when healthy. There is no DH and we are not benching Alonso. Pillar is such a great hustle hard nosed guy, good defender but let's face it...he does not make any pitcher study him too much before a game.
We are a few games in first place but I feel that while the guys like Pillar kept us from falling out of it, if we had the offense we need, we would be much more than 4 games up. I would rather win 7-3 than lose 2-0

Just saying

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I would love to step on the Phils this weekend. Phils are 13-23 on the road. Need to win this series and then get the makeup game on Monday. After that we get the Braves Yanks and Brew Crew going onto the break. If we struggle the surging Nats could catch us before the AS game. Next two weeks are critical.

I would love to step on the Phils this weekend. Phils are 13-23 on the road. Need to win this series and then get the makeup game on Monday. After that we get the Braves Yanks and Brew Crew going onto the break. If we struggle the surging Nats could catch us before the AS game. Next two weeks are critical.

I would love to step on the Phils this weekend. Phils are 13-23 on the road. Need to win this series and then get the makeup game on Monday. After that we get the Braves Yanks and Brew Crew going onto the break. If we struggle the surging Nats could catch us before the AS game. Next two weeks are critical.

I would love to step on the Phils this weekend. Phils are 13-23 on the road. Need to win this series and then get the makeup game on Monday. After that we get the Braves Yanks and Brew Crew going onto the break. If we struggle the surging Nats could catch us before the AS game. Next two weeks are critical.

Don't we have a home series vs Pittsburgh tossed in there before the break also? Definitely a big 2 weeks coming up.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

The mighty Dodgers, who haven't been so mighty of late were the latest no-hit victims last night. By 4 Cubs pitchers combined.

 

[Knight Shift]

The mighty Dodgers, who haven't been so mighty of late were the latest no-hit victims last night. By 4 Cubs pitchers combined.

One of the local newscasts made a big deal bout the seventh no-hitter of the year. Maybe my knowledge of baseball history is off, but always thought a no-hitter was a thing when done by a single pitcher. Yeah, next to nobody pitches complete games anymore, but a 4 pitcher no hitter just does not seem like a no hitter. Need to go chase the kids off my lawn now. [roll]

 

[Doctor Worm]

Don't we have a home series vs Pittsburgh tossed in there before the break also? Definitely a big 2 weeks coming up.

4 vs Phils
1 @ Nats
3 @ Braves
3 @ Yankees
3 vs Brewers
4 vs Pirates

 

[Doctor Worm]

One of the local newscasts made a big deal bout the seventh no-hitter of the year. Maybe my knowledge of baseball history is off, but always thought a no-hitter was a thing when done by a single pitcher. Yeah, next to nobody pitches complete games anymore, but a 4 pitcher no hitter just does not seem like a no hitter. Need to go chase the kids off my lawn now. [roll]

A combined no hitter IS officially a no hitter.

However, earlier this year Madison Bumgartner pitched a 7 inning doubleheader game in which he gave up no hits. For some reason that does NOT officially count as a no hitter - even though it counts as a complete game shutout. Go figure.

 

[Mr Magoo]

You know there's no DH right. What are we gonna move Dom to first since he's a far superior defender than Alonso?

The difference between a real corner outfielder and Dom is much greater than the difference between Alonso and Dom at first IMO. To me, Dom is the odd man out, but he will get plenty of playtime with all our injuries, his ability to backup the OF or 1B, pinch-hitting and DH when we are at American League parks. Having him in left along with Davis at 3rd (when he returns), is a nightmare on the left side.

 

[yesrutgers01]

4 vs Phils
1 @ Nats
3 @ Braves
3 @ Yankees
3 vs Brewers
4 vs Pirates

12-5 would be great but would take 11-6
Anything less, I won’t really be thrilled. Plus, no more f-ing injuries

 

[RUforJERSEY]

The difference between a real corner outfielder and Dom is much greater than the difference between Alonso and Dom at first IMO. To me, Dom is the odd man out, but he will get plenty of playtime with all our injuries, his ability to backup the OF or 1B, pinch-hitting and DH when we are at American League parks. Having him in left along with Davis at 3rd (when he returns), is a nightmare on the left side.

I assure you that when we are an American League park next week that it will Alonso who DH's.

 

[cicero grimes]

Looks like Nola vs. Walker in game 1 and Petersen vs. Moore game 2. With our luck we beat Nola and Moore with the above 7.00 era throws a two hit shut out. Rest McCann game 1 or 2? Give Lindor a game off if we win number 1,

 

[Doctor Worm]

If I am the Met's- deGrom never steps on the mound for the AS Game.

You may get your wish.

Per Peter Gammons of The Athletic (paywall), there is no way that the Mets will allow deGrom to pitch in the ASG.

 

[cicero grimes]

You may get your wish.

Per Peter Gammons of The Athletic (paywall), there is no way that the Mets will allow deGrom to pitch in the ASG.

Curious, how would it work if he were selected to the team? Does he have the right to decide to pitch or can the team declare him out?

 

[yesrutgers01]

Curious, how would it work if he were selected to the team? Does he have the right to decide to pitch or can the team declare him out?

Happens all the time- they select him and we announce he will be taking that time to recover. They then select a replacement player

 

[cicero grimes]

Happens all the time- they select him and we announce he will be taking that time to recover. They then select a replacement player

But what if the player wishes to attend and play? Is that the teams decision or the players?

 

[RUfinally2008]

If there's a "bonus" involved in his contract, I'm sure the Mets would make good on that part. I'm thinking he accepts the selection, and puts the team 1st, attends for all the pageantry, and sits on the bench and cheers the NL on.

 

[Mr Magoo]

I assure you that when we are an American League park next week that it will Alonso who DH's.

Missing the point. Smith is a better first baseman than Alonso. Smith is a worse LF than any other option we have. The defensive difference between Smith and Alonso at 1B is way less than the difference between Smith and another LF player (e.g., Nimmo). When you have both Alonso and Smith in the lineup, it makes sense to DH Alonso. You ah e both of their bats and it keeps Smith out of the outfield.

 

[Doctor Worm]

But what if the player wishes to attend and play? Is that the teams decision or the players?

DeGrom is on track to start the Sunday before the ASG. If he does, there is no decision to be made.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Missing the point. Smith is a better first baseman than Alonso. Smith is a worse LF than any other option we have. The defensive difference between Smith and Alonso at 1B is way less than the difference between Smith and another LF player (e.g., Nimmo). When you have both Alonso and Smith in the lineup, it makes sense to DH Alonso. You ah e both of their bats and it keeps Smith out of the outfield.

And you're missing the point that Smith is one of the better run producers on the team. And you want to sit him for defense. Not late innings, but at the start of games. When it's producing runs that has been the problem in recent weeks.

 

[Doctor Worm]

 

[yesrutgers01]

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Picture this same lineup with Nimmo and Davis

 

[Mr Magoo]

And you're missing the point that Smith is one of the better run producers on the team. And you want to sit him for defense. Not late innings, but at the start of games. When it's producing runs that has been the problem in recent weeks.

I’ll still take Nimmo when he returns with his .870 obs and better D over Smith and his .685 obs in LF and keep Pillar in CF.

 

[MadRU]

 

[cubuffsdoug]

I’ll still take Nimmo when he returns with his .870 obs and better D over Smith and his .685 obs in LF and keep Pillar in CF.

Pillar:
2021: WAR 0.1 AB 150 H 34 HR 6 BA .227 R 19 RBI 18 SB 2 OBP .266 SLG .400 OPS .666 OPS+ 85

career: WAR 16.1 AB 3420 H 892 HR 88 BA .261 R 438 RBI 362 SB 90 OBP .297 SLG .408 OPS .705 OPS+ 88

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Smith:
2021: WAR 0.4 AB 221 H 54 HR 6 BA .224 R 19 RBI 28 SB 2 OBP .319 SLG .367 OPS .685 OPS+ 93

career: WAR 1.6 AB 885 H 225 HR 41 BA .254 R 112 RBI 132 SB 3 OBP .318 SLG .462 OPS .780 OPS+ 111

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I’ll still take Nimmo when he returns with his .870 obs and better D over Smith and his .685 obs in LF and keep Pillar in CF.

Well thankfully you're only here in this thread and not part of that decision making unit.

 

[RuBird]

Not sure which I complain about more………. Horrible calls against Rutgers or…………. home plate umps being blind?

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Trash behind the plate again

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Trash behind the plate again

It's like you have to swing at every pitch because you don't trust the ump to call a good game.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Oh my
Blind man behind plate missed 3 strikes during a Walker at bat he sucks both ways

mets 9 K in row 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Hell. Not watching but sounds like 1 run could definitely decide this one.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Ties Seaver with 10
Alonso double ends it