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OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread

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1) Francisco Alvarez C (AAA Syracuse) – 0/3, 2 R, 2 BB, K, .087/.397

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I'd like to see Alvarez get his sea legs in AAA before there's any more talk of bringing him up. Alderson said essentially that the other day, and I agree with him. The Mets should make moves, if possible, for major league hitters and then only later, if it makes sense, promote minor leaguers on the off chance that it might also help.
 
Everyone back , Mets will go with a 6 man rotation for a month or skip one starter each time around for a few weeks.

Better AND fresher pitchers in the postseason can only lead to good things

Edit. Except for Max , he will tell everyone “I ain’t skipping 💩”
 
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I'd like to see Alvarez get his sea legs in AAA before there's any more talk of bringing him up. Alderson said essentially that the other day, and I agree with him. The Mets should make moves, if possible, for major league hitters and then only later, if it makes sense, promote minor leaguers on the off chance that it might also help.
I'm in the camp that Alvarez should not see the majors this year. Let him mash in AAA and then next year he could use ST getting time with the rotation and joining the team. He needs development time behind the plate still.
 
Why is Sandy Alderson talking about what the Mets need to do to improve the team by the trade deadline? He was on a podcast (The Show) discussing what the Mets need. He's no longer the GM and shouldn't be doing Billy Eppler's job. Eppler seemed to shoot back when talking about the Crow-Armstrong trade. Eppler said the Mets would not trade top young prospects like Crow-Armstrong for rentals, and you have to look at the big picture. Eppler said don't get too caught up focusing on one thing. I think the comment was about last year when Alderson addressed one issue and nothing else. Last year the Mets had several problems, and all Alderson did was grab Baez with a Williams throw-in and expect the Mets to overcome it. The Mets gave away more than what they received back. I know Alderson is the team president, but don't make Eppler's job any harder because you have loose lips. Btw, the Eppler statements came courtesy of MLB Central.
 
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Non-issue. Make no mistake. Eppler reports to Alderson, and Eppler's moves don't happen without Alderson's OK and then Cohen's OK. There can be no doubt that Alderson and Eppler are talking every day, particularly with the trade dealine approaching. Additionally, Alderson didn't say anything problematic, and nothing was different after he said it than it was before he said it. Your notion that the Mets' President doesn't and shouldn't talk on the team and personnel is mystifying.
 
If any GM out there doesn’t know the Mets need a DH they probably shouldn’t be a GM. Davis and Smith have been terrible
 
Why is Sandy Alderson talking about what the Mets need to do to improve the team by the trade deadline? He was on a podcast (The Show) discussing what the Mets need. He's no longer the GM and shouldn't be doing Billy Eppler's job. Eppler seemed to shoot back when talking about the Crow-Armstrong trade. Eppler said the Mets would not trade top young prospects like Crow-Armstrong for rentals, and you have to look at the big picture. Eppler said don't get too caught up focusing on one thing. I think the comment was about last year when Alderson addressed one issue and nothing else. Last year the Mets had several problems, and all Alderson did was grab Baez with a Williams throw-in and expect the Mets to overcome it. The Mets gave away more than what they received back. I know Alderson is the team president, but don't make Eppler's job any harder because you have loose lips. Btw, the Eppler statements came courtesy of MLB Central.
Sandy Alderson, who has held the Mets back for all of these years, is now nit picking on what’s going on when Eppler is taking his time, getting the best deal available instead of making a stupid short term move. He needs to let Eppler do his job.
 
I’m in agreement that it isn’t Sandy’s place to talk about what they need. I thought it was a bad look.
 
Everyone back , Mets will go with a 6 man rotation for a month or skip one starter each time around for a few weeks.

Better AND fresher pitchers in the postseason can only lead to good things

Edit. Except for Max , he will tell everyone “I ain’t skipping 💩”
And when Max says he ain't skipping, deGrom will chime in that he ain't skipping neither.

So ain't nobody skipping. Which is as it should be. Max and Jake have already had their innings limited, and need not be subjected to further constraints.
 
I think you missed the point. As long as we're stating that Max will not skip a turn and then speculating that Jacob would have the same attitude, we might as well add data points that we have to the discussion. And Jacob has been out of commission for the majority of the last 1.5+ seasons. Jacob's and Max's most recent IL stints have crossed over, and there was a lot of news about Scherzer pushing to get back early. None of that with Jacob.

So if we are to engage in speculation, mine is that Jacob would accept the exta day between starts.

Have you figured out wtf yet, or are you still bewildered?
 
I think you missed the point. As long as we're stating that Max will not skip a turn and then speculating that Jacob would have the same attitude, we might as well add data points that we have to the discussion. And Jacob has been out of commission for the majority of the last 1.5+ seasons. Jacob's and Max's most recent IL stints have crossed over, and there was a lot of news about Scherzer pushing to get back early. None of that with Jacob.

So if we are to engage in speculation, mine is that Jacob would accept the exta day between starts.

Have you figured out wtf yet, or are you still bewildered?
I have figured out wtf and it still stands. Even if deGrom may need an extra day or take it if offered, it still isn’t apples to apples. He had a 1.5 year set back vs 2 months.
nothing about deGrom says hold me back..,

now- if the direction of your assumption is that it could be agent or money driven..,then that would be different. That is where I couldn’t put myself in his place or use his history as a reference. But I think he does everything possible for a ring. He gets that and then, even if he is not a average pitcher the rest of his career- he would be locked into the HOF.
 
It's been clear that deGrom has only looked out for himself the past two years. He's not going to do anything to jeopardize his last big pay day and you can't blame him. It has been annoying while he hasn't pitched for last year 1.5+ for him to keep being adamant about opting out no matter what.
 
It's been clear that deGrom has only looked out for himself the past two years. He's not going to do anything to jeopardize his last big pay day and you can't blame him. It has been annoying while he hasn't pitched for last year 1.5+ for him to keep being adamant about opting out no matter what.
Confused…are you saying he purposely got injured to save his arm?
or didn’t come back way ahead of time to help us at the end of the year?
 
Confused…are you saying he purposely got injured to save his arm?
or didn’t come back way ahead of time to help us at the end of the year?
No he didn't purposefully hurt him arm. He's being uber careful to protect his arm and still perform well so he can get paid. He's basically going to do what he thinks is best for him moving forward. Could he have come back last year? I don't know but the whole thing has been odd.
 
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I have figured out wtf and it still stands. Even if deGrom may need an extra day or take it if offered, it still isn’t apples to apples. He had a 1.5 year set back vs 2 months.
nothing about deGrom says hold me back..,
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Of course it's not apples to apples. Few things in life ever are, and I made that clear. But his history in dealing with injuries and rehabbing from them can certainly provide some level of information on whether he'll be amenable to skipping a start. You may think it's not enough, but your struggling too hard to make it appear that his history dealing with injury is, as you put it, wtf irrelevant. You may continue that struggle, however, Let's see how it goes.
 
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You add Bell and Contreras isn’t much better it’s championship caliber. I posted a week or so back. It will cost you but Mauricio ,vientos , Davis and smith along with $$ are well worth it I’ll type it again

Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
Bell
McNeil
Contreras
Escobar
Canha

3 switch hitters and LRLRLR
 
You add a DH like Josh Bell and catcher like Wilson Contreras and this lineup looks much much better.
How are we adding Bell and Contreras? Would like to hear a realistic way to make that happen.

My concern with Contreras is I believe I heard he is a below average, at best, takes plays off on defense.

If true- I would rather have Catchers this staff love and have that hole in the lineup and add a guy like Bell and a middle relief, which is much more realistic.
 
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He’s not relaxed with bases loaded
Chases junk out of the zone
Like tonight , he knew a bomb pretty much ended game right there. When relaxed and disciplined he makes holes in the outfield wall
 
He’s not relaxed with bases loaded
Chases junk out of the zone
Like tonight , he knew a bomb pretty much ended game right there. When relaxed and disciplined he makes holes in the outfield wall
Yeah but you're not gonna get much breaking stuff with the bases loaded unless you fall behind in the count. That means either looking at missing or fouling off hard stuff early in the count.
 
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