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OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread

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I am not so sure. If Nats throw in Bell (whom Alonso would make superfluous) and agree to remove Alvarez from the package, I'd listen.
Don’t throw in Bell, we keep Alonso and they can take Alvarez.
Will Alveraz, Baty or Vientos be Soto at the age of 23…I believe there is zero chance. I give up prospects over Alonso. I don’t think any of the prospects become Alonso either.
mans the trade makes no sense in 2022 if we give up Alonso
 
Another nugget from Olney. He says that neither the Mets nor the Braves believe that the Nats are going to trade Soto to either of them.
If that is the case, fine- send to the AL and get a lessor package. And unless that team extends Soto asap- pick him up in a couple of years..,
 
Interesting article from Jon Heyman on possible Met "consolation prizes". He, like Olney, clearly believes that the Nats are highly unlikely to trade Soto within the division.
 
Because even though Cohen has unlimited amounts of money himself I think he's going to try and be a good actor in regards to MLB and not blow up payroll out of proportion. If they took on Corbin and Soto they're not also going to shell out big money to deGrom if he pitches well in the next 2 months when he opts out.
That would suck about Cohen being a good actor in regards to MLB. Fork that, they tried everything to stop him from being an owner and besides it never stopped Big George and more recently the Padres and Dodgers from blowing up payrolls. After 60 years we have an owner that wants to win so let the rest of baseball cry me a friggin river.
 
And opting out ‘no matter what’
I think deGrom does opt out no matter what. I say that because if he does not opt out, then the Mets hold a club option for 2024. So he either embraces free agency at season end, or he has to wait two years.

I suspect that no matter what, somebody will offer him a Syndergaard type one-year contract, at minimum.
 
I am going to commit heresy here, but I say if you can get Soto for the package above, do it and let Jake walk at the end of the year when he opts out. Jake is 34 and making $33 million this year with another 62 million owed over the next two years if he stays. Soto is 23 and not even in his prime. Give him Jake's money and re-sign Walker and keep the current staff with Max intact. I love Jake but I would rather have next year a 24 year old power hitter coming into his prime than a 35 year old power pitcher who has been having trouble staying on the field.
 
I am going to commit heresy here, but I say if you can get Soto for the package above, do it and let Jake walk at the end of the year when he opts out. Jake is 34 and making $33 million this year with another 62 million owed over the next two years if he stays. Soto is 23 and not even in his prime. Give him Jake's money and re-sign Walker and keep the current staff with Max intact. I love Jake but I would rather have next year a 24 year old power hitter coming into his prime than a 35 year old power pitcher who has been having trouble staying on the field.
I don't think that is heresy at all.
 
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Jim Callis said Mets had best draft.

 
Jim Callis said Mets had best draft.

I saw they drafted a 6'10'' 230 lb player. If baseball does not work out maybe Pike can use him on the hoops team.
 
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This is long, but I think it’s pretty good.

It’s my All-Star break look at the Mets roster as it currently stands, with a focus on 2023. It will likely change. But its current status imposes limits on the degree that it can change. Cohen can’t pay EVERYBODY, can he? Silly me, of course he can. But will he?

This analysis includes 46 players: the 39 currently on the 40-man roster, plus the 6 on the 60-day IL, plus 1 Robinson Cano, the gift that keeps on giving.

GUARANTEED 2023 CONTRACTS - 7

Max Scherzer - $43.3M
Francisco Lindor - $32.5M
Starling Marte - $20.8M
Robinson Cano - $20.2M
James McCann - $12.2M
Mark Canha - $11.5M
Eduardo Escobar - $9.5M

Yep, that’s a cool $150 mill committed to just seven players, one of whom is long gone. To put it into perspective, that number would rank 14th in MLB 2022 payroll.

CONTRACTS WITH 2023 OPTIONS - 5

Jacob deGrom - $24.3M, player opt-out
Chris Bassitt - $19.0M, mutual option
Carlos Carrasco - $11.0M, club option, automatically vests at 170 innings
Taijuan Walker - $6.0M, player option with $3.0M buyout
John Curtiss - $0.8M, club option

Lots to unpack here. Lots of financial uncertainty which will no doubt impact other financial decisions. Unless Cohen really just doesn’t care how much he spends, with I cannot believe.

If deGrom is healthy, he will certainly opt out. He may do so even if he isn’t healthy. He will no doubt view Scherzer’s contract as a floor. Will Cohen pay?

Bassitt’s situation clouds the above decision. He has a $19M mutual option, meaning either party can exercise it. I am guessing he’ll be back. Would not be surprised if they rip up the option and he signs a backloaded 3 years for $55M.

Carrasco’s situation also muddies the waters. The Mets hold a $11M club option which automatically vests if he gets to 170 innings. He is currently at 99 innings, which puts him exactly on pace. Even if he doesn’t make it, the Mets could exercise the option anyway. But if you’re paying Scherzer, Bassitt, and Carrasco, can you also pay deGrom, who must be considered a questionmark until he isn’t?

Walker does not enter into this discussion as there is no chance he will execute his below-market option. He will be a free agent.

John Curtiss is an injured reliever whom the Mets signed this year to have him next year. Maybe we will hear from him again, maybe not.

FREE AGENTS - 8

Edwin Diaz
Tommy Hunter
Travis Jankowski
Seth Lugo
Trevor May
Brandon Nimmo
Adam Ottavino
Trevor Williams

The key names here of course are Diaz and Nimmo. Both tough calls. Diaz is having career year #2, but relief pitchers are SO volatile. Dare the Mets go long on Diaz? Nimmo has been good, but is he the CF you want to lock up long term? We must also consider Walker in this group.

ARBITRATION ELIGIBLE - 11

Pete Alonso
J.D. Davis
Luis Guillorme
Yoan Lopez
Joey Lucchesi
Jeff McNeil
Tomas Nido
David Peterson
Joely Rodriguez
Dom Smith
Drew Smith

This list must be looked at from two perspectives. First, is there anyone who you might want to lock up now, before they get to free agency? Obviously Alonso comes to mind, and possibly McNeil. I would be shocked if Alonso seriously entertains any such discussions though. His pot of gold is only 2.5 years away.

At the other end of the spectrum, who gets non-tendered? IMO you must tender Guillorme, Nido, Peterson, and (despite recent events) Drew Smith. Davis and Dom Smith? Could be interesting.

WELL PAID SLAVES (Curt Flood’s words, not mine) - 15

R.J. Alvarez
Jose Butto
Sam Clay
Colin Holderman
Khalil Lee
Ronny Mauricio
Patrick Mazeika
Adonis Medina
Tylor Megill
Stephen Nogosek
Nick Plummer
Sean Reid-Foley
Kramer Robertson
Thomas Szapucki
Mark Vientos

The noteworthy thing about this list is that it is not noteworthy at all. Where are the young, low-cost, controllable contributors? Megill, maybe Holderman? Perhaps Vientos before long, if he’s still here. Plus Alvarez and Baty on the horizon, if they’re still here.

SO… that’s the prognosis as of now. Ask me again after August 2!
 
I had to double check the schedule to make sure the Braves aren't playing the Nats on Friday (like seemingly always). For the record they are not (they host the Angels).
 
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Some more All Star Break fun - let's look at the remaining schedules of the Mets and Braves. TL/DR: Advantage Mets, but not by much.

Mets have 69 games left, Braves have 68. 12 of those games are against each other. Let's pull those out and look at the other 57 (or 56).

COMMON OPPONENTS:

Phillies: Mets have 7 left, Braves have 12.
Marlins: Mets 8, Braves 10.
Nats: Mets 9, Braves 6.
Pirates: Mets 7, Braves 3.
Rockies: Mets 4, Braves 3.
A's: Mets 3, Braves 2.

METS OPPONENTS:
Dodgers 3
Padres 3
Yankees 4
Reds 3
Cubs 3
Brewers 3

BRAVES OPPONENTS:
Angels 3
D'Backs 3
Red Sox 2
Astros 3
Cards 3
Mariners 3
Giants 3

Mets are at a disadvantage, as they always are, in that they play the Yankees every year. That will be ameliorated next year with enhanced interleague play.

Braves still have 22 toughies with the Phils and Marlins, Mets only have 15.

On the whole the Mets have the slightly easier schedule. The weighted average of the Mets opponents (excluding Braves) is .467. The weighted average of the Braves opponents (excluding Mets) is .479.
 
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