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OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread

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You've wedded yourself to the term non-sensical, which isn't going to help your position. Whatever tryout period that you've decided would have been sufficient for the Mets to conduct while they are trying to win a division would never bring Vientos, Baty, or any other prospect to the point that the Mets would come away with a projection that they would be making the right decision with the prospect that would be more reliable than years of performance by a proven major leaguer. In other words, it wouldn't have meant enough. Now, that doesn't mean that the proven major leaguer would be the better choice, or the other way around. But it's reasonable management, and nowhere close to nonsensical. If Ruf were hitting his career average against lefties, instead of struggling some in a whopping 26 at bats, this wouldn't even be a conversation.

For some of us it is non-sensical. If you don't feel the same way not my problem as we're all here to express our own feelings about the team and their decisions.

It still would be a conversation considering they gave up a bit too much for a 37 yr old platoon bat when they have one waiting in AAA for free.
 
Championship team ?
20-5 stretch starts tonight !!!
No excuses , bad teams , wear down their one good starter and get into their bullpen.
Need several 10-2 9-0 games where Lindor marte Alonso can sit on bench the last 2 innings
When you look at our schedule- you can easily see 22-26 wins to finish the season. If we do that and somehow, the Braves pass us- there really isn't a whole lot we can do about it.

Good chance we do end up with 100 wins or better- One thing I will not do if that happens- be upset at our team.

I don't mean it to sound like you are either but just wanted to respond. Very good chance that we are going to finish out very strong.
 
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Yup it is kind of the Mets luck to throw up a possible 100 win+ season but yet ATL matches us almost step for step. It's annoying but let's just get the last laugh!
 
don't quite understand the expanded rosters vs playoff rosters... for players like Nate Fisher & Sam Clay who are DFA'd back to the minors, or prospects like Alvarez & Vientos who would probably be on the Sept roster, are they eligible for the playoffs?
 
For some of us it is non-sensical. If you don't feel the same way not my problem as we're all here to express our own feelings about the team and their decisions.

It still would be a conversation considering they gave up a bit too much for a 37 yr old platoon bat when they have one waiting in AAA for free.
Outside of maybe Seymore- who did we really give them and Seymore has only been in very low levels.

Ruf/Davis - ehhhh doesn't bother me.

Met's should have moved both Davis and Smith in the off season.
 
Outside of maybe Seymore- who did we really give them and Seymore has only been in very low levels.

Ruf/Davis - ehhhh doesn't bother me.

Met's should have moved both Davis and Smith in the off season.
Zwack and Seymour were nice pieces. The kind of players and depth you need to build up and keep and move through the system so you don't have to call up some of the guys we have been this year. Even Szapucki out of the pen as a leftie might have had some upside.

I also don't want it to sound like I think we need to keep EVERY prospect because I don't. This year was a fine time to move some of the minor league guys but I just didn't like execution of what we moved and what we brought in. I understand it's tough because we're not in the conversations but thought we could have done better and also could have relied on Vientos before the deadline to see if needed a Ruf like move.
 
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Bad news for all you Rob Zastryzny fans out there. Claimed by LA Angels. No word yet on Nate Fisher.

EDIT: I was way too late on this.
 
Outside of maybe Seymore- who did we really give them and Seymore has only been in very low levels.

Ruf/Davis - ehhhh doesn't bother me.

Met's should have moved both Davis and Smith in the off season.
Mets did move Smith. Trade to Padres was done, and then voided when Paddack failed physical.
 
For some of us it is non-sensical. If you don't feel the same way not my problem as we're all here to express our own feelings about the team and their decisions.

It still would be a conversation considering they gave up a bit too much for a 37 yr old platoon bat when they have one waiting in AAA for free.
It took me two seconds replaying one AB of his right after the trade to see he was the second coming of Cuddyer in G1 of '15 WS. Sad but true.
 
don't quite understand the expanded rosters vs playoff rosters... for players like Nate Fisher & Sam Clay who are DFA'd back to the minors, or prospects like Alvarez & Vientos who would probably be on the Sept roster, are they eligible for the playoffs?
See below. As of now Vientos would be since he's on the 40 man but no to Alvarez. They could still really get Alvarez on there if needed via the Comm Office petition most likely but don't see it happening.

In a typical season, any player who is on the 40-man roster or 60-day injured list as of 11:59 p.m. ET on Aug. 31 is eligible for the postseason.

Those on the restricted list at that point are also eligible if they haven't been suspended for performance-enhancing drugs during that season. (All players who have served a suspension for PEDs in a given season are ineligible for postseason play that year.)

A player who doesn't meet said criteria for postseason eligibility can still be added to a team's roster in the postseason via petition to the Commissioner's Office if the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing someone who is on the injured list and has served the minimum amount of time required for activation. (For example, a player on the 10-day injured list who has been on it for at least 10 days, or a player who has been on the 60-day injured list for at least 60 days.) Players who are acquired in September or after are ineligible.
 
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It still would be a conversation considering they gave up a bit too much for a 37 yr old platoon bat when they have one waiting in AAA for free.
Sure, it's a conversation. I'm just not sure that the Mets gave up too much given the type of deal it was or that they had one waiting in AAA. In these deals, the contender gives up prospects, some of whom might turn out to be better players than the one received. That's the price. The contender wants now, the other side wants later and lots of it because later often doesn't work out. The Mets gave up mostly older minor leaguers who at best look like potential pen additions. No show stoppers. JD Davis is the conundrum. The Mets gave him the very look--much longer, actually--that you wanted them to give Vientos. All year, he just didn't hit. The trade deadline wasn't going to wait. So they made a move. Then JD starts to hit over his next 40 ABs. That's nice of him. We'll see how it works out by year's end. But if it turns out to be a bad trade it's because Ruf stopped hitting and JD started.

The Mets need a better system. They need better prospects to promote or trade. They don't have them, so they had to cobble together three and give up JD along the way.

All that said, I hope Vientos is promoted, starts tearing it up, and the Mets find a position for him.
 
When you look at our schedule- you can easily see 22-26 wins to finish the season. If we do that and somehow, the Braves pass us- there really isn't a whole lot we can do about it.

Good chance we do end up with 100 wins or better- One thing I will not do if that happens- be upset at our team.

I don't mean it to sound like you are either but just wanted to respond. Very good chance that we are going to finish out very strong.
A 22-15 finish with this schedule would be a huge disappointment to me.
 
It’s a trap. Mets can cancel the half game loss from yesterday, but i have a bad feeling about it….
I don't think there is such a thing as a trap game in baseball. You aren't going to be looking past a team that you have to play four times in a row.

Sure the Mets could lose, if their pitcher is better than ours on this particular day. That is highly unlikely, which is why the odds on this game are at historic levels. But it is possible. That's baseball.
 
Giving this kid an A for effort but………let’s play a drinking game. Every time he says a players full name we pound a beer. Most of us will have alcoholic poisoning by the next half inning.
 
A 22-15 finish with this schedule would be a huge disappointment to me.
To be honest- my gut tells me more on the 26-11 type finish but I wanted to be very conservative. Though, the point was also that even with 22-15 to end the season, which would be low end- we would be over 100 wins.
 
Wow Phillies lose Wheeler with right forearm tendinitis right when Bryce was coming back. Not sure if they'll have enough pitching to get the last WC.
 
Wow Phillies lose Wheeler with right forearm tendinitis right when Bryce was coming back. Not sure if they'll have enough pitching to get the last WC.
I dont care about them making the playoffs I care about them having 7 more games with the Braves who haven't dominated them like we did. So would strongly prefer that they be fully armed
 
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Baty going to be compared/judged right now to Grissom and Harris

Grissom 0-5 yesterday to Drop to 382 😳
Harris 280 13 HR with multiple GW RBI/late inning HR’s
 
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