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OT: Our bills will be changing

what is disturbing to me is a radical change. I can see the additions of Martin Luther King Jr and maybe a Susan B Anthony or Eleanor Roosevelt phased in because I think that gives representation but the sheer amount of change to several women who I and probably most people have never heard of seems a bit of an overkill and agenda pushing

The fact that you don't know of Harriet Tubman means you probably didn't pay attention in grade school and would do very poorly on "are you smarter than a 5th grader." Ask any 5th grader who she is and they will know. Your lack of knowledge shouldn't be the bar for the us gov.
 
The fact that you don't know of Harriet Tubman means you probably didn't pay attention in grade school and would do very poorly on "are you smarter than a 5th grader." Ask any 5th grader who she is and they will know. Your lack of knowledge shouldn't be the bar for the us gov.


um hello I know who Harriet Tubman is, im not talking about her
 
Personally I would prefer my money be much more gender neutral and the green color makes me think of the US ARMY war machine which is not a safe space for me. I look forward to kinder gentler colors with maybe some shapes but not masculine, rough, strong shapes. They also make me feel uneasy as they remind me of big banks and Wall St.
 
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Jackson took down the Second Bank of the U.S. A monumental achievement. Bankers are getting payback.

They should have taken Lincoln off the $5 since he was a Republican.


"On $20 bill, Dem's replace Andrew Jackson, a founding father of D Party, with Harriet Tubman, a black, gun toting, evangelical Christian Republican woman."

WSJ
 
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Sojourner Truth, Lucretia Mott, Alice Paul and Elizabeth Cady Stanton

hey some people may know these names fine, but I always thought that to be on a bill you had to be LEGEND....when you start adding people just to add and feel political correct by honoring different movements thats when its overkill.

Certainly honoring people like Tubman, Anthony, and King Jr is more than appropriate...the others not so much.

Maybe we should know these names. Maybe it's time to expand our definitions of heroism. Who faced greater injustice, 19th century women or 18th century white landed aristocrats like Washington and Jefferson?

People become "legends" by virtue of the way history is handed down and taught. How history is taught is an outgrowth of the dominant cultural attitudes of those that are telling those stories. It's why scum like Jeff Davis and Alexander Stephens have statues in the south.

"I've never even heard of these people" is the problem in the first place. It's a reason TO recognize them, not a reason not to.

My choice would have been Frederick Douglass for the $20.
 
what is disturbing to me is a radical change. I can see the additions of Martin Luther King Jr and maybe a Susan B Anthony or Eleanor Roosevelt phased in because I think that gives representation but the sheer amount of change to several women who I and probably most people have never heard of seems a bit of an overkill and agenda pushing
You never heard of Harriet Tubman?
 
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what is disturbing to me is a radical change. I can see the additions of Martin Luther King Jr and maybe a Susan B Anthony or Eleanor Roosevelt phased in because I think that gives representation but the sheer amount of change to several women who I and probably most people have never heard of seems a bit of an overkill and agenda pushing
Talk about gradualism. "Phased in?" You would have been a helluva Tory in 1776! It took over 100 years for women to get the right to vote and you want to go another 100+ years for merely symbolic change. I know, Phyllis Schlafly is a radical feminist for you. Speaking of agendas- you're a walking billboard for the status quo.
 
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wrong...no I didnt say that...read through some of the other names that will be on the $5 bill along with Susan B

Seriously, though... you haven't heard of Sojourner Truth or Elizabeth Cady Stanton? Either you didn't pay attention much in history class, or your teacher was weak sauce. Lucretia Mott and Alice Paul are somewhat lesser known, but still pretty important figures.

Edit: Maybe this is a testament to our educational system more than the contributions of those women.
 
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Maybe we should know these names. Maybe it's time to expand our definitions of heroism. Who faced greater injustice, 19th century women or 18th century white landed aristocrats like Washington and Jefferson?

People become "legends" by virtue of the way history is handed down and taught. How history is taught is an outgrowth of the dominant cultural attitudes of those that are telling those stories. It's why scum like Jeff Davis and Alexander Stephens have statues in the south.

"I've never even heard of these people" is the problem in the first place. It's a reason TO recognize them, not a reason not to.

My choice would have been Frederick Douglass for the $20.
Hear what you're saying but we exist because of those two dudes and a few others like them.
 
We've already forgotten the principles of the Founding Fathers, I guess we should now forget their names and contributions as well. Unreal.

For the record, Harriet Tubman is a terrific choice; great personal risk to accomplish a greater good. But, changing ONLY for political correctness doesn't sit well with me. MLK Jr. would be another great choice.
 
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Hear what you're saying but we exist because of those two dudes and a few others like them.


Apparently these days the historical narrative in academia goes "Washington? He didn't do shit."

BTW - Do not misinterpret this as an objection to Tubman
 
Hear what you're saying but we exist because of those two dudes and a few others like them.

We've already forgotten the principles of the Founding Fathers, I guess we should now forget their names and contributions as well. Unreal.

Apparently these days the historical narrative in academia goes "Washington? He didn't do shit."

All of these hit the mark.
 
Within 20 years,Jackson 20's will be selling for 20 times their face value on e-Bay.It'll be a better inflation hedge than will be anything else.

I'm surprised that Obama didn't issue a concomitant Executive Order banning ATM machines that dispense Hamilton's.
 
Within 20 years,Jackson 20's will be selling for 20 times their face value on e-Bay.It'll be a better inflation hedge than will be anything else.

-The way this country is going, the penalty for using an andrew jackson $20 will be jail time and sensitivity training.

-I'd have a problem if they changed the $1 or the $5, especially GW.
 
Hear what you're saying but we exist because of those two dudes and a few others like them.

I'm not saying they aren't important, I'm simply saying that for 200+ years we've had a pretty narrow definition of "American Hero": white men who held high office or fought in wars. Important, but there is more to the American story than powdered wigs.
 
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