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OT: Real Estate Question - Toms River/Brick and area
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Revisiting. Stay away from these towns (including Jackson, Wall, and Toms River). The state wants to force them to build a lot more. For everyone affordable unit, the developer is allowed to build at least 4 market rate units. So, a mandate of 1,000 new affordable homes equals 5,000 in total.
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These 17 N.J. towns need to build the most affordable housing, new guidelines say
Some New Jersey municipalities need to authorize at least 1,000 new affordable units to be built by 2035, new numbers say.
Colts neck finally got forced to build them, right across from the high schoolRevisiting. Stay away from these towns (including Jackson, Wall, and Toms River). The state wants to force them to build a lot more. For everyone affordable unit, the developer is allowed to build at least 4 market rate units. So, a mandate of 1,000 new affordable homes equals 5,000 in total.
These 17 N.J. towns need to build the most affordable housing, new guidelines say
Some New Jersey municipalities need to authorize at least 1,000 new affordable units to be built by 2035, new numbers say.
Shocked that actually got through
Revisiting. Stay away from these towns (including Jackson, Wall, and Toms River). The state wants to force them to build a lot more. For everyone affordable unit, the developer is allowed to build at least 4 market rate units. So, a mandate of 1,000 new affordable homes equals 5,000 in total.
These 17 N.J. towns need to build the most affordable housing, new guidelines say
Some New Jersey municipalities need to authorize at least 1,000 new affordable units to be built by 2035, new numbers say.
Affordable housing destroys schools and neighborhoods.
They need to preserve more land/open space. That's the only way a town can protect itself.
Exactly
That, and the fact that it's literally right across the street from the high school, makes it even more surprising
Seems like bad planning, but maybe there was some logic to it. Just gotta keep fighting! Trenton is obsessed with destroying all nice towns.
I know of a guy who retired to Alabama, big house, then moved back to live in an apartment in Hudson County. Same reason.
Hate to say it but Delaware may actually be the place we end up. But, most likely staying within a short distance from the NJ border.
We are considering a new construction around 3k sq ft, finished basement, upgrades 4 BR - 3 + bath for just under $650k. $4k tax, no state income tax...
We are considering a new construction around 3k sq ft, finished basement, upgrades 4 BR - 3 + bath for just under $650k. $4k tax, no state income tax...
Not a bad idea
Close to Philly, NJ, shore, NYC, etc.
Cheap, big and brand new, but saving loads of money
What town? Thinking about moving to Delaware due to NJ inheritance tax. I believe Delaware has an income tax.
Wilmington - you are right. For some reason, I thought I heard otherwise. 6.6 % max
I would assume that would be about average, but for everything he’d be getting for that price, that is a steal compared to New Jersey
What does that $4k get you in Delaware compared to NJ? Services are tied to taxes. What % goes to schools in Delaware. How are the schools ranked? Garbage or recycling collection at the street or do you need to drive to the dump or recycling center? Size of police force or Firefighters or EMTs? I’m interested if there is a full comparison. And I know each town in NJ provides different services but what does Delaware usually provided.
Great questions, and I'm not sure
Re. OP, he wouldn't be concerned with schools - so being that NJ's % of money that goes towards schools is ~70 %, I'm guessing it's less there
Not in Delaware Shore area most i have seen is 2K on the same type of property.
Wait till you see who the developer is!
If someone is a teacher or cop in Colts Neck, I am not sure where else they are supposed to live.
Yeah I am not sure what is more destructive to home and neighborhood value, the affordable housing down the street from where I grew up in Monmouth County (condos under 100k for 55+) or the projects where I live now in DTJC.
All surrounded by properties probably half of which valued over 1M, LOL
!) that won't change state obligations and 2) they already stopped the Route 18 extension to 34/35/70 pushing traffic onto local roads but I am sure they will find a new way to self own or some other species to feign concern with!
If someone is a teacher or cop in Wall, can they afford to live there? More so than Colts Neck? Sure. But still not great.
Makes sense. I know a lot of former colleagues and neighbors that moved to DE and are very happy. Low cost, but close to NJ for family and other things. Eastern PA used to be this but all the NJ folks swamped the area and jacked up costs.
They went from total of 3500 units to now under 1000 they have to build.
Not bad IMO.
Yes, some new townhome communities built that will allow people that grew up there to move back!
The mayor where I grew up made this point when approving townhomes. We always say we want our kids to move here...shouldn't we...facilitate that?!
These are the questions many folks don’t think to ask themselves before bragging about how little taxes they pay when they flee NJ.
Granted OP is in a different situation / stage in life and wouldn’t be interested in schools etc.
But you get what you pay for in a lot of these states when it comes to taxes. Give it 10-15 years and Delaware won’t be as cheap as it is now as they continue to build out the roads, schools, police, public works, parks etc.
Yeah, they are relegated to the West Belmar and Collingswood sections. And it's a good thing too- they are there to catch the neighborhood bank robbers who use their bicycle as their escape vehicle to peddle 2 blocks homes. This is brilliant planning on the part of Wall's town fathers and mothers!!!
As far as the Route 18- extension to the old Brielle Circle (now the Wall Interchange) would have been wasted money. Plus, the traffic on 35 South of Old Bridge Road going over the Manaquan River bridge is already bottlenecked enough.
Wall man nabbed after police say he fled $5K armed bank heist on bicycle
Police said a masked man entered the Bank of America on Route 35 Wednesday afternoon, brandished a weapon and took off with more than $5,000.
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Good job by Colts Neck with blocking so many housing units. Gotta keep fighting. Lots of people whine about flooding. The increase in flooding is almost perfectly correlated with increased development.
You move/live where you can afford to go.
* A lot of parents do that. The facilitate part.
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I think the old adage "you get what you pay for" can be applied in most instances, but not in others.
Using Delaware as an example, there's low taxes, no state income tax for SS/Pensions, close to NJ and Philly, nice beaches, etc.
I find there's very little "character" per se there, but OP likes to be at home a lot and not always venture out (nothing wrong with that - I actually prefer that myself), making the lack of "character" not a big deal vs. someone who likes to eat out a few times week or go exploring
We know moving to Florida in the next decade, costs have already gone up. Taxes are up. Hurricanes have increased. Flood insurance, car insurance, homeowners insurance all have gone up. HOA's, if we decide to move into a community that has them, will only go up
However, it's worth it for us for a few main reasons (weather, people, no state income tax on ss/pension, relaxed life style, lovely gerography, etc.)
What I'll never understand are the people who move out of NJ, who made their money here and grew up here, lived a good life, then trash the place - no idea why they do that
Using Delaware as an example, there's low taxes, no state income tax for SS/Pensions, close to NJ and Philly, nice beaches, etc.
I find there's very little "character" per se there, but OP likes to be at home a lot and not always venture out (nothing wrong with that - I actually prefer that myself), making the lack of "character" not a big deal vs. someone who likes to eat out a few times week or go exploring
We know moving to Florida in the next decade, costs have already gone up. Taxes are up. Hurricanes have increased. Flood insurance, car insurance, homeowners insurance all have gone up. HOA's, if we decide to move into a community that has them, will only go up
However, it's worth it for us for a few main reasons (weather, people, no state income tax on ss/pension, relaxed life style, lovely gerography, etc.)
What I'll never understand are the people who move out of NJ, who made their money here and grew up here, lived a good life, then trash the place - no idea why they do that
Because Trenton financially destroyed much of the state and they keep digging. NJ has a remarkable amount of gov'ment debt per capita and sky-high taxes. I don't see many people complaining about the shore, mom and pop restaurants, or our location.
However, taxpayers have the right and justification to trash our gov'ment.
Government I agree complaining about
But overall, I don't get trashing a place where you've lived for the majority / your entire life (not you, but people in general) once you move out
Makes zero sense to me
I don't think you "get what you pay for" correlates that well to standard/cost of living (agreeing with you, I think, not arguing).
Guess it depends what you're looking for, but to bottom line it: Are people in NJ/NYC multiple times happier than people in cheaper places? Can't say I ever found that to be the case.
at the age of 65 you get to apply for relief from School taxes. In most cases, this is 2/3 of the total tax cost.
I don't have school aged children.
Wilmington is higher taxes then the other areas as it is not as rural with nothing but new homes on farmland.
I agree it all depends what you're looking for, and what makes one happy, which varies from person to person. Re. happiness and COL, I don't think people in the tri-sate area are happier than people in cheaper places (I actually think, generally speaking, people in cheaper places are happier, on a whole. for a number of reasons).
In Wilmington- part of the higher DE tax cost is that they do have the largest FD in the State, one of the largest PD's etc...I am looking at a HOA that does do the garbage collection. HOA is only $300 a year.
Self contained neighborhood- restaurants, stores, etc - the only downside is that the lots are very small. But the homes have a ton of character. It feels like you walked into a X-Mas movie.
I assume your lot in F.L. now is rather large? Also, do you have the option of adding a pool like you have now?
Don't say I didn't warn you. HOA stands for Horrific Overreacting Autocrats.
Good luck with that. Never again. I'd rather live in a slum than a place run by an HOA.
