They didn't even have the kickback scheme set up by July.
PSA: Landing Lane bridge closed for emergency repairs until mid November (to Open Dec. 17)
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They didn't even have the kickback scheme set up by July.
At least it makes for a nice ascending pattern of numbers.
Lot more traffic, much of which is heavier, using it in recent years as compared to 100 years ago, I would think. Is not surprising it isn’t lasting as long.
Rte 34 bridge over the bike path by Atlantic Ave was supposed to be finished by Memorial Day. No end in sight.
I drive thru Westfield every morning. Literally have had a construction project on one block since May. Right by schools and all. I reckon someway somehow they will finish it RIGHT before school starts.
They finished early!?!?!
Real early. They went back in time to get the job done even faster than ASAP. They used EFTP (Even Faster Than Possible).
Oh, and they also clearly went with a retro style.
No, no. That's just the style. It's a distressed finish. This one will last forever (forever, in this case, being a relative term meaning probably not very long at all).
The bridge over the canal leads to the Landing Bridge over the Raritan River, which was built in 1895. The span over the Raritan River was replaced in 1995.
The span over the canal bring replaced
See B&W picture above
Heavily traveled bridge in Middlesex County will remain closed for months
The bridge has been "in poor condition," has one lane of travel in each direction with no shoulders and a 5-foot timber sidewalk.
www.mycentraljersey.com
Bridge connecting New Brunswick, Piscataway will remain closed for weeks, DOT says
Bridge connecting New Brunswick, Piscataway will remain closed for weeks, DOT says
The emergency repairs are necessary to prevent further deterioration of the existing structures prior to a full-scale replacement project.
www.mycentraljersey.com
I giggle on game days when I walk over the bridge from New Brunswick and see 3 guys in canvas folding chairs and 2 reclining in the front seat of the work truck, and wonder why the work is not getting done in a timely manner. It is the same set up every week. And it's not like I am arriving at the same time.Bridge connecting New Brunswick, Piscataway will remain closed for weeks, DOT says
Bridge connecting New Brunswick, Piscataway will remain closed for weeks, DOT says
The emergency repairs are necessary to prevent further deterioration of the existing structures prior to a full-scale replacement project.www.mycentraljersey.com
Hey, they're cogitating. That vital service justifies a 6 day week, and probable Saturday overtime pay.
(EDIT: I misread the story a bit.. the REPLACEMENT bridge is for 2025.. but they will fix this one.. )
"We are still expecting to begin construction in 2025," he added.
2025? WTF.. oh, yeah, Murphy will be out of office by then. He won't have to spend any of the giant GAS TAX MONEY for things like this as it was intended. Kick the can down the road and let the next guy handle it.
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and...whether or not murphy is in office, do you think that changes the need to replace the bridge?
well.. they could just use the design of the bridge that's already there. Or they could just replace the parts that are there. They did not say the footings were an issue.
I'd say 6 months in design... a year to get the parts.. then build the same thing in less than 6 months. So 2 years, tops... to build a new bridge there.
Add another year or two if they will build it bigger or higher since it failed to survive that much rainfall.
It is not like it is a new bridge. They are replacing an existing bridge with existing entry-exit areas.
But 4 years of planning to begin construction in 2025? That's soooo New Jersey.
Just to clarify, because the article is not clear on this, the bridge over the D&R canal is what’s being repaired, and is also what will be replaced in 2025.
the longer span across the Raritan river is not being replaced as it’s not very old.
the longer span across the Raritan river is not being replaced as it’s not very old.
is the current bridge design up to latest standards? how long do you think it will take to demo the bridge? how long to get permits? what if the plan is not to replace in-kind? do you know the condition of the footings and piles? do you know if they can accommodate a new design? what bridge replacement project...anywhere in the country...that spans this distance or more...has been completed from design to construction in 2 years? have you considered the historical nature of the D&R canal?
Artist's rendering of the new design. Notice how green the water will be, it's quite exciting.
The temporary bridge is being cut down as we speak.
The temporary bridge is being cut down as we speak.
let me flip that on you.. how long should it take to replace THAT bridge.. not any bridge.. but THAT bridge.. very shallow river.. etc etc.
if it was not up to current standards.. then they should already have had a plan to replace it, right?
They took down an old iron girder bridge there and replaced it with that concrete and steel.. what would you call that?
1991 pic.. of 1895 truss bridge.. those piers are still in use..
what about using prefabricated parts?
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i'm not sure. i don't know all the facts, the constraints, etc. also, the pre-fab bridge construction is quick in terms of time to construct, but what i do know is that it takes longer in design and planning to enable the faster construction. just making a blanket statement about what you THINK the length of the project is supposed to be is stupid. you, nor i, know all the factors involved.let me flip that on you.. how long should it take to replace THAT bridge.. not any bridge.. but THAT bridge.. very shallow river.. etc etc.
if it was not up to current standards.. then they should already have had a plan to replace it, right?
They took down an old iron girder bridge there and replaced it with that concrete and steel.. what would you call that?
what about using prefabricated parts?
Reminds me of when they replaced a little rinky-dink bridge over a creek on South Ave around the Middlesex/Dunellen border. Little flat bridge about 40' long. They must have had that road closed for well over a year. Used to p!ss me off.
you asked me how long.
I merely stated that projecting out to start construction in 2025 is ridiculous.. and it is.
The latest story says:
"it was determined that the damage to the girders and webbing was more extensive than anticipated, and a more extensive repair would be required."
Maybe the people involved are just making it into a bigger project than it need be. Instead of fixing the old bridge, they are going to build a new one.
OH.. wait.. my bad. It looks like the REPLACEMENT project is for 2025.. but they will repair this one. They are just taking a lot longer than expected. But others have noted that it doesn't look like they are doing anything.
Bridge connecting New Brunswick, Piscataway will remain closed for weeks, DOT says
Bridge connecting New Brunswick, Piscataway will remain closed for weeks, DOT says
The emergency repairs are necessary to prevent further deterioration of the existing structures prior to a full-scale replacement project.www.mycentraljersey.com
this happened with Pulaski. what they thought was just a deck replacement turned into something much bigger when they took the deck off and found bigger structural issues. hence, pulaski taking a lot longer than expected.
I added that I had misread the story... they didn't cancel fixing this bridge to build a new one.. the replacement is being planned for construction in 2025. That's a non-story to me... but the roads on the New Brunswick side kinda prevent the replacement bridge from being more useful.. more lanes.. nowhere for them to go on that side. They would have to take a lot of land and likely demolish some buildings to make Landing Lane a 4-lane route.
side note: the piers the current bridge is built upon is from 1895. The Pulaski was from 1932.. not surprising they found other issues. What was the standard back then.. build things to last 40 years? They are going on 80 now. Didn't have many nightmares as a kid but that Skyway opening and allowing the car I was in the fall was one... I blame Mr. Magoo cartoons.
I know people here like to confuse this as an NJ issue, but road works chugs nards everywhere. Drags on forever, often seems to make things worse rather than better, and screws up loads more than just traffic patterns along the way.
Drive more than two hours or so in any direction , and you'll probably get a firsthand reminder, maybe a few!
Drive more than two hours or so in any direction , and you'll probably get a firsthand reminder, maybe a few!
they could definitely improve the access and turn radius to access the bridge. that opening is very tight. could also widen to add a bit of shoulder to accommodate the giant campus buses that are using it.
road surface replacement on I-78 in PA. what an uncomfortable ride when you're trying not to get sideswiped by an inattentive driver or a wobbly semi.
Apparently they would have had to get Coast Guard approval to redo the piers to be able to put in a 4 lane bridge. Since they didn't want to take the time to do that, they used the existing piers with minor modifications to put in the new bridge. Typical short sighted approach to situations like this.
