Rutgers Crew - Varsity status?
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Since Men's crew is neither an NCAA sport nor a Big Ten sport, what does it mean to say that it should be a varsity sport instead of a club sport? If Rutgers were to reinstate crew as a varsity sport, the team could not win non-existent NCAA races/championships nor non-existent Big Ten races/championships. Certainly they could compete against other NCAA and Big Ten schools, but those races would not be recognized by the NCAA or Big Ten. From an access to competition perspective, there is no difference between Men's Crew being a club or varsity sport.
So the only difference would be access to facilities and funding on campus. The Crew team continues to use the boathouse, so they already have access to the unique facility they need. So that leaves funding as the only thing that changes be reinstating crew as a varsity sport. But the proponents of making crew a varsity sport say they don't want funding from the athletic department. They say that crew alumni will fund crew. So there is no funding difference between crew being a club or varsity sport. Crew alumni can provide the same level of funding either way.
So I really don't understand what real difference it makes if crew is a club or varsity sport.
So the only difference would be access to facilities and funding on campus. The Crew team continues to use the boathouse, so they already have access to the unique facility they need. So that leaves funding as the only thing that changes be reinstating crew as a varsity sport. But the proponents of making crew a varsity sport say they don't want funding from the athletic department. They say that crew alumni will fund crew. So there is no funding difference between crew being a club or varsity sport. Crew alumni can provide the same level of funding either way.
So I really don't understand what real difference it makes if crew is a club or varsity sport.
Our HS boats go for about $80K and I am sure those are not as good as the ones the premier college programs are using.
There is no D1 level.
Men's Rowing is not an NCAA sport.
The entire premise of this thread is false.
In what world should Rutgers be funding sports that are not recognized by the NCAA or the B1G at varsity status?
Not a D1 sport, not an NCAA sport? Ever hear of something called the Olympics, Rutgers Crew has had more Olympians (numerous medal winners) and World champions than any other sport at the school.
What's to prevent Rutgers Crew from continuing to have olympians and world champions under the current structure?
Varsity status doesn't mean anything in terms of the Olympics or World Championships. It only means something to our conference and the NCAA, neither of which sponsors this sport.
Put it this way. Rutgers Men's crew has been around much longer than the NCAA, or the Big Ten, or the Rutgers division of intercollegiate athletics. Why can't it continue without them? What exactly is the problem, because I just don't see it?
What he's saying is true though; the NCAA does not sanction men's rowing. NJ HS crew is similar in this regard; the NJSIAA does not sanction crew; there are numerous regional groups (biggest league in the area is the Philadelphia Scholastic Rowing Association, featuring a number of PA and NJ schools and has been around for decades) and NJ does have a state championship race (Garden State Rowing Championships; back when I rowed the state title race was the NJ Scholastic Rowing Championships, which was run by a different group, as the 'Garden State' regatta is less than 10 years old), but unlike other sports, the state title is actually like the 3rd or 4th most prestigious event on the schedule (Philly City Championships, Stotesbury Cup and Nationals are seen as the biggest for many schools in the area).
Joe P.
There is no such thing as Big Ten Men's Crew or even NCAA Men's Crew.
I rather see Men's Swimming return, if anything.
I rather see Men's Swimming return, if anything.
Those shooting down the $40M figure or need for a substantial endowment don't understand how this works. We can't take an IOU. We need the $ up front in an endowment to guarantee all future payments so that we aren't diverting $ from other inadequately funded programs or moving crew back down if the $ doesn't come in. Title IX issues also likely play a role as well.
As for the # of varsity sports offered by each B1G school, here's info from wiki:
tOSU 37
TTFP 30
UM 27
RU 27
MSU 25
IU 24
Iowa 24
Minn 23
UW 23
Illinois 21
Nebraska 21
MD 20
NW 19
Purdue 18
As for the # of varsity sports offered by each B1G school, here's info from wiki:
tOSU 37
TTFP 30
UM 27
RU 27
MSU 25
IU 24
Iowa 24
Minn 23
UW 23
Illinois 21
Nebraska 21
MD 20
NW 19
Purdue 18
There is no point to adding any new sport unless it is extremely well funded - ie, we're in it to win or we shouldn't be in it. The entire purpose of having intercollegiate varsity sports is to bring acclaim (and hence pride and donations) to a school. If it's not doing that, it's not doing its job. We are so far behind in facilities quality for almost all of our sports (eg, compare the tennis facility at tiny Div III Carthage College in Kenosha Wisconsin (far from a tennis power even in DIII) to ours - not a joke) that until that is remedied, there is no point to discussing adding new ones.
We are not going to see any more men sports added in the near future because of Title 9 issues the school has. It might sound crazy but because of the Medical School merger and the additional female population we have to come up with something like 25 more women scholarships.
The number of sports listed above are wrong. If you only look at B1G sponsored sports, there are 28. Ohio State and Michigan sponsor all 28. Penn State sponsors 27. Some schools sponsor additional sports and Ohio State sponsors the most. In addition to all 28 B1G sports, OSU sponsors: Fencing (co-ed), Pistol (co-ed), Rifle (co-ed), Men's Volleyball, Women's Ice Hockey and Synchronized Swimming.
Men's Rowing is not an NCAA Division 1 sponsored program.
Women's Rowing is.
Same for the B1G.
As was said above we need less non-revenue generating sports not more.
If we do add any sports it should be both NCAA and B1G sponsored.
Women's Rowing is.
Same for the B1G.
As was said above we need less non-revenue generating sports not more.
If we do add any sports it should be both NCAA and B1G sponsored.
School of Health Related Professions and School of Nursing have undergrad programs
