THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD
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You should start a March madness substack or rivals should hire you.
yeah I do my bracket on substack but honestly by lookiing at others who do bracket stuff and bracketology on twitter and matrix, its not really a money making type thing unfortunately...heck I dont even get a free premium members for providing this content here🤷♂️
Perhaps..and of course maintaining leads solves it all.. but I'll settle for a coach who' knows another end game play other than give the point guard the ball, hold and hoist a three.
There is a chance, but at this point, it’s mostly at the expense of other BIG teams taking a computer number hit since we’re now in league play. That applies to Rutgers too. Every time we beat someone, that hurts their NET. That’s why I’m not sure we’d even be a lock at 12-8 in the league sadly. That would still put us at 13 losses on Selection day with no good OOC wins. We’re definitely not rooting for parity in the league. We would want 4-5 teams to differentiate themselves at the top and to somehow pick off wins against 3 of them. WAB says that shouldn’t matter, but history says it does.
we need the wins to be at Oregon, UCLA, at Maryland, Illinois...if those are the 4 wins of the 12 then we are in good shape as long as we do not know lose to usc at home. Good luck doing that.
Princeton and OSU are not “good”.
Sounds about right. I don’t think we could afford to lose to Minny either.
I have often argued for WAB in the past. I still agree with the concept that wins and losses are all that should matter for getting into the tournament. BUT.. I think WAB has a flaw here and that it actually should matter.
Consider an extreme example:
- Accoring to Bart at the moment, a win on the road against Rutgers is worth 0.51 WAB and a win at home against Mississippi St is worth 0.49 WAB.
- I would further assume that a win against the Oklahoma City Thunder would be worth 1.0 WAB
- I would further assume that a win against the local middle school would be worth 0.0 WAB
Which team are we more impressed with?
Team A - WAB +1.0
at Rutgers - WIN
vs Mississippi St - WIN
Team B - WAB +1.0
at Oklahoma City Thunder - WIN
vs Local Middle School - WIN
Princeton and OSU are good teams man...idk what you guys expect. That's why everyone is so surprised, "there are two top 3 draft picks on Rutgers, Rutgers should be better than every team on their schedule." Rutgers depends on two freshmen as their go to players, Princeton for example, Dylan Harper is a top 3 draft pick but Xavien Lee is a better college player at the moment, ace might be a top 3 pick but Caden piece is a better college player at the moment because they are older and have been in pressure situations at this level before. Any veteran team with experienced key players is going to be tough for Rutgers.
well that sums up about 80% of the schedule..so who gets the blame
pretty damning for Pikiell
Team will get better as the season goes along. With more experience you will get better results. Just have to keep working and believe if you are one of the players. As a fan I believe in the staff to get these guys more acclimated. I'm really surprised by everyones attitude given the way each game has went, fun and exciting games that came down to end game decision making by young players. Even against top 25 teams. These guys aren't that far off from being a tournament team. Have some faith man .
OSU is a good team. Like any other team they have good and/or bad nights.
They beat Texas and then get blown out by Maryland.
The BIG has a lot of parity this year and no real top heavy teams that stand out IMO. I would even think that teams playing us don’t see a bad team and one that can beat them on any night…each have their flaws.
That said, if we lose to Minny again this year then we are a complete disaster
I'll say it again, I swear we were all ready for this. As soon as it was said Matt alocco wasn't coming here and that pike struck out on the veteran big from Drexel or wherever, this would not be a top ten team. Lack of veterans and no lunch pail presence on the inside. These freshmen need time to get right. Half way through the big ten schedule team should look different..
I would argue that Harper and Bailey are actually much better players than both of them even at this stage.
We got outcoached bc they exposed those two players against weak defenders on multiple occasions to take advantage of us. We did not do the same to them schematically.
While I do think experience plays a role(see Ace decision making at end of KSU game) I’ve seen Harper play enough now that the guy is more composed than upperclassman.
They are more talented one on one players, I wouldn't sleep on lee though but of course they are more talented. However pierce knowing how to get to his spot and not panic for the game winner and lee's relentlessness driving to the basket and determination to win speak to their experience.
im not looking for fun and exciting. I am looking for efficient in wins and building a resume
we dont need to be a top 10 team who expected that, but we dont even have a tourney resume right now..not even close
the majority of staffs are dealing with huge overhauls of their roster and you can see the ones who are doing a great job with it and who are not
OSU yes, Princeton no.
Princeton is good for an Ivy team but not good or even mediocre for a P5 team.
remember Kennesaw State was a good team. Our fans like to cope this way.
Ohio State is a weird team so up and down but its the kind of "lesser" Big 10 team to beat on the road
It's not even January yet, let's see what happens. This is what's fun about being a fan. You don't see anything positive from the team?
You'd be surprised if Princeton were to make the tournament and win a game or two in the tourney? with Lee and Pierce that's possible... people think Rutgers should beat the ny Knicks because they have two talented freshman. Two talented upper class men with tournament experience and a better supporting cast that RU isn't a good team? I disagree, Princeton is good and actually Kennesaw is as well but Rutgers should have won that game. That's a bad loss but guys really don't understand how much things have changed...so many good basketball players now days. Talented players all over the country and if they have some experience on this level plus the added intensity playing against two potential NBA draft picks, Rutgers is in for a fight every game.. idk what you guys expected but this isn't the kevin Durant warriors...give them time to figure it out .
I'd be really really surprised if they made the tourney as at at-large selection. I won't be particularly surprised if they win the Ivy but that's why I said they were good for an Ivy team.
Bullshit. Princeton has 2 legit players that can start on any BIG 10 team right now. Plus they play hard. You do not get 19 offensive rebounds sitting on your ass. Henderson said it in post game that this game will be their standard going forward. Apparently they didn’t play as hard or as well in some earlier games which led to their losses . This game will set them on a long winning streak. They will be a NCAA tourney team. There is a reason Princeton has a hard time scheduling Power 5 teams to play them and it is not because they are not good.
Princeton is not a top 100 team by any metric and so far this year they have lost to Loyola Chicago, Wright St, Texas St, and Furman.
They are good for a mid-major but nothing more.
Read my post. Watch what they do the next 10-15 games and come back and visit this thread.
Obviously Kennesaw is not a good road team but they are 5-0 at home. So no they are not a good team if they get blown up on the road. Their coach challenged his team and did a west coast trip and they didn’t perform well.
But they played well and hit threes in that first half when we played like absolute crap and ACE ‘s jitters showed up. That doesn’t mean we should not have scheduled the game and it doesn’t mean we would probably beat them 9 out of 10 times , but before their recent west coast losing streak they were around 135 in the Net and Kenpom so they were not terrible.
I mean I guess every Division I team is a “good basketball team” in some context but in this context a good team needs to be like at least.. an average P5 team?
No one’s saying a Princeton or even a Kennesaw can’t beat good teams on any given day but that doesn’t make them tournament worthy teams
FYI the other four teams Kennesaw beat home were Toccoa Falls, Bryan (not Bryant, Bryan), Presbyterian, and Abilene Christian.
Woooo
No one’s saying a Princeton or even a Kennesaw can’t beat good teams on any given day but that doesn’t make them tournament worthy teams
FYI the other four teams Kennesaw beat home were Toccoa Falls, Bryan (not Bryant, Bryan), Presbyterian, and Abilene Christian.
Woooo
My disagreement with you is withPrinceton . They are a good team and a team that will make the NCAA tourney. Kennesaw is not an NCAA team and like I said we win 9 out of 10 times. My only point about Kennesaw was they were about a 135 NET team when we played them not a 300 NET team. Pike never thought for a minute he would lose that game when he scheduled it as ACE’s homecoming
Do you think Princeton would make the NCAA tournament if they played in the Big Ten?
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