COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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77% of PA patients have recovered.
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The seven day average has been steadily increasing in the US for the past two weeks. Today's positive cases diagnosed reached an all time high of 38k+. These do not signal a leveling off or a trend downward.
US record for new cases today
6:25 PM · Jun 24, 2020
Settle down Francis all will be fine ... everyone on this board has some type of agenda...
Finally you bring facts now compare them to Southern states
I thought we were talking fatalities.
But yes cases overall are increasing. Massively in some states.
Southern states don't provide that data.
I'm talking out my arse here, because, you know, what's good for the goose.....
Ha too funny. You scream and yell about infection rates in other states but bail on the truth
Might as well go for herd immunityThe seven day average has been steadily increasing in the US for the past two weeks. Today's positive cases diagnosed reached an all time high of 38k+. These do not signal a leveling off or a trend downward.
US record for new cases today
6:25 PM · Jun 24, 2020
Something to definitely keep an eye on. Anti-virals and anti-body treatments can’t come fast enough.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...otherapeutics-Announces-Launch-Phase-2-Trials
https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...otherapeutics-Announces-Launch-Phase-2-Trials
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No you don't! You provide opinion. You and #s failed in providing facts last night. Holy crap. To this very second you have not answered my original question
Is this the original question you are talking about?
I already provided the links.
20-44 is a very very strange age group breakdown and no doubt designed to be deceptive, as no doubt most are closer to 44 with almost none in the 20s.
CDC numbers tend to be slightly delayed, but here's some, and the age group ratios are what grabs you, and what the media keeps triple super duper top secret, right behind the nuclear codes in level of secrecy.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
under 25 yrs old, 60 total US deaths to date per CDC
25-34 yrs old, 732
35-44 yrs old, 1,860
45-54 yrs old, 5,238
55-64 yrs old, 12,895
65-74 yrs old, 22,429
75-84 yrs old, 28,735
85 plus yrs old, 35,948
total all ages, 108,000
so 1 in 50 deaths is someone under 45
less than 1 in 100 deaths someone under 35
1 out of 1,800 deaths someone under 25.
over 40s with K-12 kids is the big problem to solve.
give them the choice to send their kids to school or take virtual classes at home.
if the kids attend school in person, then the parents need to not have any contact at all with olders at work or play. (literally ZERO. not as little as convenient).
we need to totally separate the young from the old, and we need a national strategy, both distancing and financial aid wise, that acknowledges these numbers.
fairness doesn't matter.
no big corps should be getting a dime in aid,or their smaller divisions
we need to plan according to the numbers.
the numbers alone need to dictate the national strategy going forward.
olders need to stay away from all youngers, or have zero contact with other olders.
screw 6 ft, that's not anywhere near safe distance from an older, as one is contagious way beyond that. (20ft plus at minimum).
if a younger sees an older, stay as literally far away as possible.
i personally have more like a 50 ft minimum policy, but stay even farther if at all possible.
Dr. Anthony Fauci says it’s ‘frustrating’ Americans are ignoring science amid coronavirus pandemic
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/19/dr-...-amid-coronavirus.html?recirc=taboolainternal
Ironic since all of Fauci's incorrect statements and predictions have caused the public to tune him (and others) out.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/19/dr-...-amid-coronavirus.html?recirc=taboolainternal
Ironic since all of Fauci's incorrect statements and predictions have caused the public to tune him (and others) out.
Not sure about this, plenty of data shows that children are not common spreaders.
Dude do your own legwork.
Bring some actual data to the discussion. It would be welcomed.
don't believe that data for a second, and how would you even get that data.
the virus is going to attach to them, and they are going to shed and exhale, even if it doesn't affect them.
From the CDC:
If children meet in groups, it can put everyone at risk. Children can pass this virus onto others who may be at higher risk, including older adults and people who have serious underlying medical conditions.
So you admit you lied again! Said multiple times tonight that you provided data . but didn't
A little late to the scrum, but surely you all have noticed that we have been testing half a million Americans a day for the past couple of weeks. You somehow think that might account for some of the new cases? Have said before, some 80,000 Americans die every week, and many of the elderly that were on their way out from something else and were diagnosed with Covid19 were counted as a Covid19 death. Reminds me of the story about a poor schnook in one of our major cities who ran out of smokes and headed to the nearest convenience store. It was robbed while he was there and he was killed in the gunfire sprayed by the Bad Guy. A Public Health person, a zealot about smoking, classified the death as smoking-related.
There is certainly irony in your post, I'll agree on that.
I've provided plenty of data. Both directly, and links to further data.
It's all above.
You provide false facts and argumentative nothingness.
Let me know when you want to have an honest discussion.
stop trolling, and read your own links.
nowhere did it say kids can't transmit the virus.
kids aren't affected much by it, but they don't have some magic force field surrounding them that keeps the virus from attaching, or from them inhaling it.
1)It's true tests are up. But positivity is up in states like FL, TX and AZ. Positivity is down in states like NY PA and NJ. Positivity rates are the main driver as to the discrepency of new cases.
2)The anecdote about the smoker killed by the bad guy is not too helpful.
3)There is a real debate to be had about how many people die in an average year and how many would be killed by Covid if we took minimal measures. I think your point about the age of people hit the hardest is also something worth considering. Unfortuneately, I'm gassed.
Nice try, reread my original post. Never said "can't" did I? Let's stick to the facts and stop trying to misinterpret or lie about what other people said. Thank you.
70% rise the last 48 hrs. in Ca. Rioting has consequences.
Great idea! And if you follow your own advice here, you'll never post on this thread again.
Tschuss.
Not only are children not getting sick from the virus, they're also not spreading it. Here's a recent study from the French.
"The study confirms that children appear to show fewer telltale symptoms than adults and be less contagious, providing a justification for school reopenings in countries from Denmark to Switzerland. The researchers found that 61% of the parents of infected kids had the coronavirus, compared with about 7% of parents of healthy ones, suggesting it was the parents who had infected their offspring rather than the other way around."
Here's the link if you want to read more.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-don-t-spread-coronavirus-french-study-shows
Murphy better have the schools open come September. It's time to start following science instead of political spin.
He and a couple of others love to point out that in late January I thought the coronavirus would likely not be worse than the flu (but I usually pointed out that there was risk it could be). I was not alone, partly because I simply wasn't paying that much attention to it - very few were. But in hindsight, it's easy to see that by late January anyone with knowledge of viruses knew that there was community spread rapidly going on in China resulting in the Wuhan/Hubei lockdown; China announced human to human spread on 1/20. If I had been as plugged in in late January as I was by mid-February, I'm sure I never would've said this would likely not be as bad as the flu. Don't think I've gotten a lot wrong since that one, though.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/world/asia/coronavirus-china-symptoms.html
As an aside, people keep saying Fauci wasn't that concerned with the virus. That's always been a BS take. Here's a quote from him on 2/8: “The situation in China is quite serious, with multiple generations of sustained transmission,” Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told Vox. “That’s how you get the makings of [a] global pandemic — if that spreads throughout the world.” He also talked about the risks associated with asymptomatic transmission, which was shown to be occurring in late January and everyone knew that was the biggest risk of all, since controlling asymptomatic transmission is nearly impossible without aggressive interventions.
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/14/21134473/coronavirus-outbreak-singapore-us-symptoms-pandemic
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/31/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-study/index.html
Of course I have an agenda. I want people to wake the fu** up and start taking this more seriously and practice social distancing and mask-wearing in public, so we can have far, far fewer deaths than we've had or are likely to have - no politics in that, it's just smart behavior based on good science. I've been screaming, figuratively, about the potentially catastrophic risks of hundreds of thousands of deaths and serious illnesses since late February (and warning about the risks more quietly in early/mid Feb, as I wasn't as convinced yet) and pointing out that the US wasn't well-prepared for the coming pandemic, especially with regard to testing and medical supplies/PPE. Started screaming about the testing debacle as early as mid-February.
Went into quarantine on 3/3 and started this thread on 3/4 because of my grave concerns for this becoming the worst pandemic since 1918, when there was one whole case and zero deaths in NY/NJ. Even then some laughed/snarled at me and there were predictions of <100 total deaths when I was warning about hundreds of thousands. And then we watched it all unfold, in horror, not far off from what I thought would happen (especially in the DC-Boston high density corridor). I called for everyone to start wearing masks on 3/14, when we had one death, each, in NY and NJ. Many laughed at that too.
Since then, for weeks I've been warning that the states that weren't hit hard in the first wave, like we were, were in serious danger of having major outbreaks of their own (not as bad as NY/NJ though, since testing would prevent total surprise) if they opened up too early/fast without the appropriate testing, tracing and isolating in place and if distancing/masking wasn't a major part of the interventions. Seems like we're doing decently on testing, but not very well on the rest and we're now starting to see significant case/hospitalization increases and are likely to see deaths increase, although probably a fair amount less than what we saw here, due to the outbreaks not being as bad and having better medical procedures and treatments.
And sadly we could prevent almost all of this grief and horror, without any lockdowns if everyone would simply wear a mask when they can't ensure distancing, which has been amply demonstrated in many countries. And that kills me. So yes, I have an agenda to prevent more deaths, serious illnesses and major economic impacts by trying to share as much knowledge as I can and to convince people to try to take this more seriously and change their behaviors.
Which is obvious that you have a crusade. You only post the negative. Some call it fear mongering. You have crossed the line. Be fair to all the facts.
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