Yet Minny has not shown a similar spike. NY continues to decline.
Any thoughts on the disconnect? I know I'm perplexed.
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Any thoughts on the disconnect? I know I'm perplexed.
He’s being purposefully dishonest. Ignore him. NJ has been under 200 new cases the last few days after weeks of massive protests. He already knows that, though.
Also just a heads up that 5k = 5,000. 5000k = 5,000,000.
Also, 200 pages! Wow!! Well done RU#’s and others who have contributed.
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1)I know he is, but I'm trying to make him confront his dishonesty.
2)Did I make that mistake? My bad, I do know the difference, I just need an editor.
Houston is very close to being overrun with the virus. I don't seem to recall massive protest in Houston.
Yuma Arizona and right over the border in California are being overrun. There were no "riots" in the desert.
Conversely, NYC had massive rally's and riots and the numbers have not spiked.
It is not the protests or the riots that are contributing to the spikes. It is any public gathering of people where the majority of people are not wearing masks. My Lord. Talk about having an agenda.
Yuma Arizona and right over the border in California are being overrun. There were no "riots" in the desert.
Conversely, NYC had massive rally's and riots and the numbers have not spiked.
It is not the protests or the riots that are contributing to the spikes. It is any public gathering of people where the majority of people are not wearing masks. My Lord. Talk about having an agenda.
I think that Minny was closer to "riot" and further from "protest" compared to the other cities. The flashpoint reaction likely meant a lot less thoughtful people bothering with masks and distancing.
from NJ dashboard:
" Data are preliminary and subject to change. The data represent information available within the Communicable Disease Reporting and Surveillance System (CDRSS) and reflect a cumulative counts of laboratory confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths reported to NJDOH as of 6/8/2020. It includes cases and deaths with known zip codes. In accordance with Health Data Privacy Standards, case counts and deaths from zip codes representing geographic units that contain 20,000 or fewer people are suppressed.
We're losing a little ground in NJ. 406 new cases, 3.65% positive tests, R-naught up to .88 (highest since mid-May). New hospitalizations were exceeded by discharges though, and we're back below 1,200 hospitalized currently. All these numbers could be within the "noise" threshold, but today and the last 3 days at the least halted the positive trends of the last 6 weeks.
I'm seeing 1.4% on John Hopkins as a 7 day, so 3.65% would be a pretty significant jump.
Edit: I'm also see on Worldometer that NJ reported 172 new cases yesterday which was the lowest total since March. So maybe today was just a return to the mean type of result?
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The numbers could be lower without the protests? Are the #'s coming down in the early white hot zones like NY and NJ because the counts were so explosive that the weakest/most vulnerable victims have either died or recovered and now have immunity? Herd immunity in the already hard-hit zones?
Going off the state dashboard there were 350 positive tests reported with 21,265 new PCR tests giving a positive rate of 1.6% which is in line with the 7 day average. Where did you see these other stats?
Likely because they are still “protesting” here. Numerous ones, every day.
It takes the height of ignorance and suspended belief to believe that doing all the things we were told not to, in very large numbers, wouldn’t have a negative effect.
I can certainly see a lot of different factors at play. Some level of herd immunity is a thought. Numbers just being so low is another.
Just odd that there was zero blip.
Like I've said, I would think those protests would be spreader events, but looking at data post protests(at least early stages of), I don't think we can claim it is a major driver.
Houston had massive riots.
Provide evidence of these massive riots, please.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...ly-more-low-key-compared-to-other-cities/amp/
So you think it's just the fact that those protestors just have not been tested?
I see that as a legit possibility.
Wonder if they protest long enough, while not coming in contact with high risk groups we get that herd immunity amongst the younger groups that we've been looking for?
Edit: Still while the discrepency? Are the CA TX FL and AZ protestors getting tested while the NY and Minny ones are not?
Really doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE="albanyknight, post: 4618315, member: 1540"]Houston is very close to being overrun with the virus. I don't seem to recall massive protest in Houston.
Yuma Arizona and right over the border in California are being overrun. There were no "riots" in the desert.
Conversely, NYC had massive rally's and riots and the numbers have not spiked.
It is not the protests or the riots that are contributing to the spikes. It is any public gathering of people where the majority of people are not wearing masks. My Lord. Talk about having an agenda.[/QUOTE]
https://www.newsweek.com/houston-pr...ronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066
Houston Protesters Begin to Fall Ill With Coronavirus After Marching for George Floyd
Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.
Houston resident Shamone Turner told KRIV that she took part in a march to Houston City Hall attended by an estimated 60,000 people about two weeks ago and later tested positive for the virus. Several friends who accompanied her were also said to have tested positive. Despite the illness, she said she has no regrets about her decision to march.
"I actually got sick the day after the march... I could not move out of the bed. I was in the bed just sighing," Turner said. "I definitely don't regret getting the COVID, because I was out there doing the right thing for the right cause."
Not surprising, but anecdotal. Again why TX but not NY?
Why FL but not Minny.
Also note TX and FL were showing signs of increase prior to the protests. NY and Minny were decreasing.
The spike in cases in the "Early Summer" region might not be a single cause but compounding of a number of different items that attributed to the surge. First off we know that much of this surge has been driven by younger people, we are also seeing it happening in the South and West, areas that are hotter and did not experience the initial wave and opened earlier. So there could have been a spread give these areas opened in May, that spread was worsened as people moved indoors due to the heat which caused more spread, then many of these young attended the protests, so protests which had more infected people would end up spreading more among the protesters. This would explain why we are not see a spike in the NE even though we are seeing increased cases of in NJ among the younger crowd.
We do know for sure, that whatever he does is not for the safety of people, but to serve his agenda. Parks never should have been closed in the first place and retail stores should never have been closed. Everything he's done is politically motivated and there's no science behind any of his decisions. If you think he was just being overly cautious, he would have shut down liquor stores, be he didn't. I understand everyone enjoys their alcohol, but it's not a necessity. It's actually poison. What study indicated that the virus can't exist in liquor stores, but exists in abundance at Burlington Coat Factory? The guy is a complete clown and he's destroyed our economy for no reason.
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Houston Protesters Begin to Fall Ill With Coronavirus After Marching for George Floyd
https://www.newsweek.com/houston-pr...ronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066
Holidays, protests lead to uptick in California COVID-19 cases, experts say
https://www.kcra.com/article/holidays-protests-uptick-california-covid-19-cases/32805415#
Greg 2020 you must be what
We all do l Greg that is what makes the world go round and round...Someday , if you survive long enough , you will have a different agenda, opinion or outlook on what the country is becoming ... it will always have it’s warts.. and Greg we know yours as well.
Great to see another 20 Workout /Fitness centers closing... thanks Murphy for screwing people’s livelihoods in order to move your agenda.
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Couldn't have set your watch to the corona spike in CA. Direct cause and effect.
And they are still doing it. Numerous ones every day here.
I use Chicago as an example because it’s where I’m posting from: there were large protests, but (i) a large protest is measured in tens of thousands of people, not millions; (ii) these people returned from protests to a city pretty much completely closed down. If there was spread in the protests, these people weren’t then going to bars, restaurants, malls, etc and spreading it more. They went home and ordered delivery (for weeks...indoor dining doesn’t resume in any form until tomorrow).
The scale of protests (as mentioned above) is important to keep in mind. When chicago is up and running, you have millions of people using public transit daily, not to mention all of the mingling in work places, recreational activities, etc. Protests look like spreader events on tv, but when you think about the numbers, you see why March / April saw a huge spike, and why the protests, encompassing just a tiny fraction of the population, are somewhat self-contained, and would be expected to register barely a blip in comparison.
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Weird how you abstained about his on Murphy..
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Great point. Population of CA is 40 million.
TX is 29 million
FL is 21.5 million.
How many protesters did they have in each of these states? 100K? I dunno, but that sounds like a big # for protests, but rather insignificant in the grand scheme.
The # of everday interactions far exceeds the interactions which would happen within these protests.
Greg then you are doing the right thing... Greg I’m 70 and in very good shape ... my entire family( adult kids) wear masks ... and they’re in their 40’s ... I have said on here numerous times ...wear a mask , wash your hands , social distance... I do all those things because I care about others unless they give me pause not to .... you hopefully will survive ... but there are many twists and turns during our lifetime.
So I'll present the question to you. Why not a similar spike in NY? Or Minny?
Setting of the watch does not seem to apply to those states.
I'm not a Trump fan, but he didn't direct Murphy to do anything. Murphy is the one who destroyed New Jersey's economy. Now he's not going to allow kids back to school without any study to support that decision.
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