COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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Read the thread - I replied to bac's post last night. Try to keep up. I know it can be tough.
Cite those journals please. Attach links. Explain why during the 1918 pandemic many cities in America demanded everyone wear a mask whether feeling okay or not?
In 1918 most wore masks. In the more recent ones, which weren't true pandemics, like SARS/MERS, some wore masks in the affected countries and some didn't. And yes, the guidance was for only symptomatic people to wear masks, because both were generally contagious after symptoms appeared (with infectiousness peaking after symptoms started, which is why both were far easier to control). COVID is much different that way, with a far higher transmission rate from presymptomatic and asymptomatic people, which is why the recommendation is for healthy people to wear masks. This has been stated dozens of times - is it really that hard to understand?
NY State reported lowest hospitalizations since tracking. Curve crushed, time to open restaurants and gyms! 40 million people less than 500 in hospitals.
Why are you always telling lies in your posts? NYS population is 19.5 million not 40 million.
Just saw a report on the news about ventilation systems and how teachers should stand near them so the air droplets get sucked into it instead of it floating around the classroom. They said in an elevatpr you should try not to talk. When will the recommendation come down that we should limit talking outside so as not to spread the virus?
That was written on 4/1, when there was a debate going on about masks. They updated the commentary with the following about a month ago, as per below.
Editor’s Note: The authors added the following statement on Jul 16.
The authors and CIDRAP have received requests in recent weeks to remove this article from the CIDRAP website. Reasons have included: (1) we don’t truly know that cloth masks (face coverings) are not effective, since the data are so limited, (2) wearing a cloth mask or face covering is better than doing nothing, (3) the article is being used by individuals and groups to support non-mask wearing where mandated and (4) there are now many modeling studies suggesting that cloth masks or face coverings could be effective at flattening the curve and preventing many cases of infection.
These "experts" also greatly undervalued the UK study done with viruses smaller than CV, which showed 50% or more filtration efficiency from various cloth masks and ~90% from surgical masks (first link below). And to point #4, a great study with hamsters came out showing ~75% cloth mask filtration effectiveness with actual SARS-CoV-2 (and hamsters are an excellent model), as per the 2nd link. Science takes in new information and moves forward - happens all the time.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-125#post-4571736
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-124#post-4570840
It's Saturday. My night's great. No matter who's wearing a mask or not.
Hamster photo, lmao.
The only journal bac's ever read is the one he keeps under his pillow.
I ain't laughing...but you can't tell because you can't see the smile or hear the laughter through my muzzle. Uh..opps I mean mask.
Ok, 19.5 million and record low hospitalizations. Thoughts?
Huge COVID party going on in New Providence.
Streets lined with out of state cars.
Can hear the DJ from around the block.
Abandoned/foreclosed AirBnB that has been vacant for a while.
Wonder if we will make nj.com tomorrow.
NJ - another "backwards state" I guess......
Streets lined with out of state cars.
Can hear the DJ from around the block.
Abandoned/foreclosed AirBnB that has been vacant for a while.
Wonder if we will make nj.com tomorrow.
NJ - another "backwards state" I guess......
Given some of the talk about Merck etc., and after reading in Barron's that Merck was its stock pick of the week, I wanted to check on Merck’s stock performance. Somewhat arbitrarily I picked the last 5 years as my comparator against two other Big Pharma companies, Novartis and Pfizer. And discovered that the timing of the most recent post about Merck was, to put it mildly, a bit off.
First of all, a straightforward Yahoo Finance 5 year finance comparator chart showed that Merck was up 49.69% versus 13.48% for Pfizer and MINUS 1.36% for Novartis. And the market rewards expectations of FUTURE earnings, not past performance. So much for Merck being a "shell of itself", etc.
BTW, I was glad to see that negative number for Novartis because I had been upset about their corporate behavior. Just on July 1, 2020, NVS paid all of us taxpayers over $642 Million to settle allegations of improper payments to patients and physicians. And separately, $51 Million to resolve allegations that it paid kickbacks through something they created called “co-pay foundations”. Perhaps the "weird culture" is elsewhere?
First of all, a straightforward Yahoo Finance 5 year finance comparator chart showed that Merck was up 49.69% versus 13.48% for Pfizer and MINUS 1.36% for Novartis. And the market rewards expectations of FUTURE earnings, not past performance. So much for Merck being a "shell of itself", etc.
BTW, I was glad to see that negative number for Novartis because I had been upset about their corporate behavior. Just on July 1, 2020, NVS paid all of us taxpayers over $642 Million to settle allegations of improper payments to patients and physicians. And separately, $51 Million to resolve allegations that it paid kickbacks through something they created called “co-pay foundations”. Perhaps the "weird culture" is elsewhere?
Thanks for posting Numbers. You really don't need the second username. Your logic and facts are still faulty, but nice try!
Pharma is about innovation and invention. Fortune tracks this every year, here are the top 5 companies to watch:
Roche
Innovation Index rank: 1
Invention Index rank: 10
Number of employees: 97,735
2019 revenue: $63.638 billion
Headquarters: Basel, Switzerland
Roche has jumped seven spots from 2019 to finish first, the first time the Swiss company has done so. The company benefited from multiple clinical data wins, a pair of novel FDA approvals, and many path-leading immuno-oncology firsts by its PD-L1, Tecentriq.
AbbVie
Innovation Index rank: 2
Invention Index rank: 7
Number of employees: 30,000
2019 revenue: $32.75 billion
Headquarters: North Chicago, Ill., U.S.
Runner-up on this year’s Innovation Index (and seventh overall on the Invention ranking) is AbbVie. A model of consistency, AbbVie has held the second position two years in a row.
Novartis
Innovation Index rank: 3
Invention Index rank: 4
Number of employees: 103,914
2019 revenue: $51.9 billion
Headquarters: Basel, Switzerland
Novartis had a historic year in terms of regulatory approvals notching an unprecedented five novel drugs, helping catapult the company from ninth on the Innovation Index in 2019 to third in 2020. Notably, the company also sustained its Invention ranking—finishing fourth overall in back-to-back years, suggesting a promising future.
Vertex
Innovation Index rank: 3
Invention Index rank: 9
Number of employees: 3,000
2019 revenue: $4.164 billion
Headquarters: Boston, Mass., U.S.
With the help of the FDA approval of potential blockbuster cystic fibrosis (CF) drug Trikafta, Vertex burst onto the Innovation scale in 2019, as the best-performing biotech by far.
Eli Lilly
Innovation Index rank: 5
Invention Index rank: 3
Number of employees: 33,625
2019 revenue: $22.32 billion
Headquarters: Indianapolis, Ind., U.S.
After experiencing a jump from No. 13 in 2018 to third on the 2019 Innovation scale, Eli Lilly has settled into the fifth spot on this year’s Index. Despite the two-spot drop, Lilly’s Invention scale ranking of third for 2020 implies that the company isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
https://fortune.com/2020/04/06/top-pharmaceutical-companies-innovation-invention-2020/
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^^^this guy doesn’t comply. Probably grabs his groceries from other shoppers’ carts. Can’t follow American cultural norms.
State allows up to 500 outside. Have a beer and relax.
Great job by NY state! I hope you start telling the truth in your posts.
Yeah, like I ever said that. Keep trolling. It's also not really appropriate to talk about other people's jobs/personal lives, especially if you're going to lie. I could say all kinds of things about your career, but that would be wrong, too, so I won't. But if you don't think your employer might be watching you on line, think again, and you might want to consider how your trolling/lying posting style and questionable content would look to HR. Just some free advice.
Pretty cool paper from Scripps, using supercold electron microscopy to elucidate the structure of the genetically engineered Novavax spike protein structure in its vaccine, which mimics the structure of the spike protein in the actual coronavirus, so that it will stimulate the body to produce antibody responses (these antibody responses have been seen in the early clinical trials so far) to bind to and deactivate the virus. I learned a decent amount about electron microscopy (of crystals - from a crystallographer at work) early in my career and its simply an amazing analytical tool for structure analysis and its capabilities have grown hugely in the last 20 years. Some neat visuals in the actual paper (2nd link).
https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2020/20200807-ward-covidvaccine.html
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.06.234674v1.full.pdf
https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2020/20200807-ward-covidvaccine.html
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.06.234674v1.full.pdf
Is there a point here? If you rank the companies in any segment of the economy, somebody has to be first, second, etc. Says nothing about whether they are innovative compared to other companies.
In spite of all the nonsense you've had to put up with, I, and I'm guessing lots of other readers, truly appreciate your insight, dedication, and presentation of information in this thread. Good on ya, mate!
You probably know that I am not on a particular "side" in this, as taking sides is foolish--but I take issue with "look just as foolish as we have for letting that happen." Really? Foolish? People worldwide are tired of lockdowns and the economic damage it has and continues to cause. It received very little press, and the mainstream news would not publish the actual numbers, but there was a rally to end the lockdown in Germany in the last few weeks that drew close to 1,000,000 protesters.
It is a fair question and subject to debate how much longer we extend lockdowns. The article I posted above from Australia makes some fair points.
I'm always looking at Bac's posts and call him in the office weekly to scold him on his post. He says the same for me,
Pretty simple point. We were talking about pharma companies and I posted an article about pharma companies. Don't understand your question here.
This covers a lot of people here so I hope they seek the help they might need.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/qanon-rode-pandemic-heights-fueled-100000951.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/qanon-rode-pandemic-heights-fueled-100000951.html
Thank you to these clinical trial volunteers!
First COVID-19 vaccine volunteers in US describe experience as Bay Area launches vaccine trials
https://abc7news.com/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-trials-for-coronavirus-shot-moderna/6369641/
Also some new info on the possible human challenge trials:
US developing coronavirus strain for human 'challenge' trials
https://news.yahoo.com/us-developing-coronavirus-strain-human-220417655.html
First COVID-19 vaccine volunteers in US describe experience as Bay Area launches vaccine trials
https://abc7news.com/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-trials-for-coronavirus-shot-moderna/6369641/
Also some new info on the possible human challenge trials:
US developing coronavirus strain for human 'challenge' trials
https://news.yahoo.com/us-developing-coronavirus-strain-human-220417655.html
"Cases, as a moment’s reflection reveals, do not equal sickness, much less hospitalisations."
We've been down this road very recently in the US. And this was the exact argument, but as it turned out, and not unexpectedly, hospitalization #'s will rise in the wake of rising case #'s and deaths will follow along after that.
I understand people are tired of the shut down, and even more importantly the shut downs crippling of the economy, but would it be a better idea to be ahead of the curve or to wait until you get to the point where your hospitals are being overrun and the deaths are piling up?
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