Interesting Article - College presidents of colleges in state of Michigan that are doctors - they opine on their respective monitoring and responses to COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/5061325002
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Interesting Article - College presidents of colleges in state of Michigan that are doctors - they opine on their respective monitoring and responses to COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/5061325002
Yeah very interesting topic, and certainly there are implications of the measure's gov't has taken that make the topic relevant to Covid, but, that topic would likely diverge quickly.
But if a new thread is started I'm in.
I am more on the conservative side of this, but the older crowd shouldn’t have gone to Deny’s I. This example. I tell my parents to STAY HOME. If they have to go out stay outside, 6 feet away from anyone else and where a mask.
No indoor dining in NJ, NY that I am aware of. Denny’s , for the most part , leaves much to be desired even pre pandemic. Especially in the tri state areas which pack people inside. Questionable cleaning , food handling and packing people inside or limiting their ability to spread out while dining. Over the years many of these chains did an inadequate job of cleaning properly. As for over 50’s... get this idea out of your head please. Not every senior lives in an older adult community, assisted living playing bingo, scrabble , mahjong or sitting around . Most OWN their homes....are more active than many 30-40 year olds and actually are able to enjoy many of the things their generation loved to do. The younger pass the virus on to those more vulnerable due to a pronounced lack of common sense and rule following. There is a good reason being outside and in sunlight is great for seniors . As studies continue it will perhaps substantiate that Vitamin D deficiency plays a larger part in deaths in the over 60 groups . Diets , vitamins , exercise benefit seniors especially in months where sunlight and getting outdoors is limited. Curious what we will continue to find out.
Me thinks you missed an important fact in your example. The older folks have the freedom to not go out to Denny's and risk infection.
A popular figure on the left weighs in on potential vaccines.
Don't get the vaccine. That microchip that will be injected into you will be the beginning of the end.
Thanks bruh.
I present all sides, even if I don't agree, as I don't with Farrakhan here.
Though I do not trust The Gates at all either.
Your 100% right , I was thinking about Florida when I wrote that. I had remembered when I was in Port Charlotte Florida a while back, we would stop by Denny’s before we went to the beach / Gulf to spend the day. After sitting down I’d look around and most people were older in age that would frequent that location , I would think it was the same until recently.
Couldn't this microchip be injected with the vaccines we've be getting for years?
And then when it’s injected, what does it do? Swim around in the circulatory system for the next 60-70 years? (I’m 29)
What this will do will get rid of the monetary system we have now. The government will download a specific amount into your "account" based on a social status. Once you run out that's it until the government refills the account. When you purchase something you just wave your hand on a screen set up in stores. There will be no checkout people. The government will know your whereabouts and every move. I'm sure there are other things that can be done to control you also.
The other important fact is corporations have the right to turn furloughed workers into terminated workers and turn currently employed workers into terminated/furloughed workers if the US economy does not rebound in a meaningful way. I was speaking with two senior executives at public companies this weekend who believe this is what we will see from their organizations in the next 30-45 days. Corporate America was hoping for a better recovery from the virus.
US Household savings rate was over 23% in May after almost 33% in April. I think there are more serious economic consequences coming. I hope I am wrong.
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That I can see happening, I’ve been furloughed for a few months now but will be returning to work in another week. The thing is if things turn south again in the next few months companies may just layoff instead of furloughing if there’s not a clear pathway to profitability. And if they see light at the end of the tunnel those same companies may find it beneficial to furlough so they don’t have to go through the hiring process and possibly loose valued experienced workers.
More good news on convalescent plasma from Dr. Joyner, lead of the Mayo Clinic team overseeing the expanded CP use program, which has now treated 30,000 people with the antibody-containing plasma from recovered COVID patients. Looking at just the top 6 studies using randomized/controlled trials (RCTs; the first two) and "matched controls" (not randomized, but matched as closely as possible at the outset), we see 23 of 192 (12%) patients treated with CP dying, whereas for the untreated patients, 82 of 238 (26%) died - that's slightly over a 50% reduction in mortality, overall.
A similar ratio of deaths is was seen for just the two randomized, controlled trials also (17% vs 33%). We still don't have large scale RCTs yet, but this is very promising data, especially since it's now well established that the CP approach is very safe. With what looks to be about 10,000 or more being treated per month, that's enough to put a dent in reported death rates in areas where it's being used heavily (would be nice to have more data on that). Last post on this program linked below, too.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-187#post-4612643
https://twitter.com/DrMJoyner/status/1279455028856619010
A similar ratio of deaths is was seen for just the two randomized, controlled trials also (17% vs 33%). We still don't have large scale RCTs yet, but this is very promising data, especially since it's now well established that the CP approach is very safe. With what looks to be about 10,000 or more being treated per month, that's enough to put a dent in reported death rates in areas where it's being used heavily (would be nice to have more data on that). Last post on this program linked below, too.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-187#post-4612643
https://twitter.com/DrMJoyner/status/1279455028856619010
I think we will continue to see a negative correlation between infections and spending...regardless of any lockdown orders.
Oh man are we full on into Agenda21 territory now? Let's start s new thread on the CE board so it doesn't all get deleted from the covid thread.
Not political....just idiotic. But, you have to consider the source.
Well said. NJ is still testing 15-20K on weekdays, but less on weekends. The recent decreased testing is largely due to a decrease in demand for testing, since people with symptoms or in contact with those with symptoms has decreased to a pretty low number. This site has excellent summaries of NJ cases, hospitalizations, deaths, and testing for the duration of the pandemic - I just wish the data bars could be clicked on to get the numbers.
https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/documents/topics/NCOV/COVID_Confirmed_Case_Summary.pdf
New Jersey is doing it the right the way. Amazing that the most densely populated state is the only state in the green.
I've seen this shared widely. It's nonsense, really. A 10% increase in new increases is noise, especially at the low case number levels many of those states are experiencing. Second, NJ doesn't get a pat on the back for being on the backside of the ugliest curve of cases and deaths, globally, outside of Italy. You don't really think we have the capability of increasing infections, hospitalizations, and deaths to the extent of the "48 states out of the green," do you? We've just exhausted bodies is all.
Been saying for a long time that transmission from inanimate surfaces is at most a very minor route (compared to transmission from person to person, via sneezes, coughs and even breath and touching) and this "academic comment" was just published by an RU professor of Microbiology, entitled, "Exaggerated risk of transmission of COVID-19 by fomites (surfaces)." Mask wearing when distancing isn't possible is far, far more important than disinfecting surfaces. Here's his summary...
"In my opinion, the chance of transmission through inanimate surfaces is very small, and only in instances where an infected person coughs or sneezes on the surface, and someone else touches that surface soon after the cough or sneeze (within 1–2 h). I do not disagree with erring on the side of caution, but this can go to extremes not justified by the data. Although periodically disinfecting surfaces and use of gloves are reasonable precautions especially in hospitals, I believe that fomites that have not been in contact with an infected carrier for many hours do not pose a measurable risk of transmission in non-hospital settings. A more balanced perspective is needed to curb excesses that become counterproductive."
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099(20)30561-2
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-121#post-4569570
"In my opinion, the chance of transmission through inanimate surfaces is very small, and only in instances where an infected person coughs or sneezes on the surface, and someone else touches that surface soon after the cough or sneeze (within 1–2 h). I do not disagree with erring on the side of caution, but this can go to extremes not justified by the data. Although periodically disinfecting surfaces and use of gloves are reasonable precautions especially in hospitals, I believe that fomites that have not been in contact with an infected carrier for many hours do not pose a measurable risk of transmission in non-hospital settings. A more balanced perspective is needed to curb excesses that become counterproductive."
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099(20)30561-2
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-121#post-4569570
Who still washes fruit? I saw a neighbor get the mail wearing black gloves. She probably puts in in a decontamination room. Another neighbor got in his car with blue gloves and a mask and drove his car to the dumpster, unloaded it and drove back to his stall where he got up and went in his house. These people along with the ones driving with masks should be put in a dark room without a key. Have you noticed that people wearing masks drive erratic because their oxygen level is being depleted?
@RocktheRac I wash blueberries, apples, strawberries, cherries, peaches & nectarines...things I don’t peel before eating. Not because of coronavirus, but because I’m a millennial and that’s what makes me feel comfortable eating something that went through either a multinational supply chain or came fresh from dirt at a farmers market.
Deaths are a lagging indicator. That's how it works when cases are increasing or decreasing.
Cases - Hospitalizations - ICU - Deaths.
Common sense is not your strong point.
The second Gottlieb tweet is what far too few people understand
I wash fruit also with water. That's standard. It some peeps here were washing with soap and water and I'm assuming they had a bad case of loose stool because of it.
Don't worry, you are wrong. Jobs are coming back quicker than expected, great news for everyone. With interest rates so low, that money will be invested soon.
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