You just figuring this out? If no spikes are reported than loss of control by Murphy.
COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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If deaths are often reported on a lag, why would we assume that only five people died today? Lol
“Just tell us the number is five rather than lumping in old deaths!” Ok well that number, 5, is no more reliable than whatever numbers were reported on the days when these prior deaths occurred.
$10 says people will read this and say 5 people died today! Means they read the tweet, and didn’t stop and think about what it actually says about the data.
If anything, this makes me wonder if there is no extended lag in deaths this time around, we’re just going to find out we’ve had a higher death count in a slow trickle.
[roll]You only look for "facts" that support gloom and doom by organizations I have never heard of or obviously have an agenda.
What??? It seems you are wishing for a higher death count even if it comes in differently. How about, maybe the death rate is declining despite increased infections?
Worldometer currently has California at 142. Texas at 119.
Both new highs, TX by a good stretch.
#'s can trickle in until 9-10 PM.
Happens in every state. Don't think there is anything political to it. Just like the zero deaths reported on July 2nd likely had no political driver.
I suspect we’ll be getting daily Covid death counts out of Florida for the next 20 years as their data ‘matriculates’
1.3MM have recovered from Covid. Great sign.
Why are they counting possible Covid positives via one positive test as Covid positive though?
Why are they counting possible Covid positives via one positive test as Covid positive though?
Actually it was you who turned me on to the John Hopkins site I often use. So I assume you have heard of that one.
I also use worldometers and state dashboards. Worldometers get's there info, in many cases at least, from the dashboards. They link the source.
So you prefer waiting for the secondary tests? Seems contrary to the discussion above about delayed reporting of data.
It's more about reading the data and seeing the trend.
Hopefully people in power do the same so as to keep things from getting out of hand, or better put, more out of hand.
There should be no such thing as a possible Covid test being classified as a positive Covid test.
Florida's dashboard, much like the AZ dashboard are very slow to link deaths to specific dates. They each report deaths daily which are pretty reflective of the current situation(as long as you look at the 7dma), but the official allocation of deaths to dates take awhile.
No just posted about it now. Like I said I've been monitoring it for weeks on end and the anomaly became prevalent to me as more data came in from other states. I didn't want to jump to conclusions like many do. Rather root my findings in fact, however NY's decline made the findings even more self-evident.
You do know they get there info directly from each states reported numbers right?? They aren't independently checking them. But you are trusting all the state's reported numbers?? Seems foolish.
Looks like malpractice to me. In addition to all the other problems going on at this particular Chester, PA nursing home (not enough PPE, COVID patients rooming with non-COVID patients, communal dining, etc.) during the height of the pandemic, the doctors there were prescribing HCQ/azithromycin to COVID and non-COVID patients, despite the emergency use authorization by the FDA specifying these untested drugs (for COVID) should only be given as part of clinical trials or under hospital supervision for potential heart issues/arrhythmias, which are a concern with these drugs and which many elderly have. There was no problem getting these drugs to patients who shouldn't have been given them, but it took months to get COVID tests (they just assumed everyone was infected) and proper PPE to this facility. Who knows if this was just this one facility or many.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...KJ3cS7Y4CD00nPbSe96adlH4knSos52DsJbOmiZjhPzWE
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...KJ3cS7Y4CD00nPbSe96adlH4knSos52DsJbOmiZjhPzWE
Oh, but that's not what you said.
"Why are they counting possible Covid positives via one positive test"
Right, I am talking about people that haven't been tested yet are being counted as such because they were in contact with someone that has been.
Is this something that you guys were discussing here? Is there a link on a previous page?
As per trusting the states reported #'s.
Why would Florida or AZ falsely claim positivity rates of 18% and 26% respectively?
Why would NJ claim a high death total, yet low case and positivity %'s?
People seem to act like these #'s are being used to push an agenda, but the numbers often run contrary to the supposed agenda.
Why would Florida or AZ falsely claim positivity rates of 18% and 26% respectively?
Why would NJ claim a high death total, yet low case and positivity %'s?
People seem to act like these #'s are being used to push an agenda, but the numbers often run contrary to the supposed agenda.
I'm assuming Murphy's mask order meets with your approval. Seems fairly reasonable to me and not far off what I was hoping for. Excerpt is below and there are some additional reasonable exceptions. For the vast majority of situations, it's basically, wear a mask if you can't be sure of maintaining proper distancing.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020...utside-to-battle-coronavirus-murphy-says.html
People in New Jersey will now be required to wear masks outside in public when social distancing isn’t possible to help prevent the coronavirus from spreading, under an executive order Gov. Phil Murphy signed Wednesday. Murphy stressed a mask isn’t required if you’re walking alone or with your family in your neighborhood or at a beach or park and are standing at least 6 feet away from others.
Instead, the order calls for you mask up if you’re an outdoor setting where people are gathering and you can’t keep your distance from people other than your family members, caretakers, household members, or romantic partners. “This is absolutely vital when individuals find themselves in a crowded situation — such as when walking down a packed boardwalk or in a line that is not properly spaced apart,” the governor said at his coronavirus briefing in Trenton.
Have not heard this is happening anywhere - can you provide a respectable link?
Once again NJ is 3rd in reported covid deaths with 64. Go back the 14 to 21 day gestation period and we averaged 300 to 400 new cases. They're either telling me our health care system here in NJ completely sucks or we're counting deaths differently than other states. Because those death rate numbers are pretty much by far the worst in the country.(not even close) As for the conspiracy theory aspect I don't know, but it has to be one of the two above.
Finding out how many positive tests include positive antibodies tests. How many are old numbers in to catch up. Two things NJ has been famous for. Also reclassify a previous death of an unrelated matter because it might have been a Covid death without testing. NJ doesn't adjust past numbers but simply add it too the current days count.
What I've heard from a Nurse Practitioner is that deaths seem to fall into 2 categories. Those that die quickly, and those that linger for a long while. Recently said she had a couple patients that were akin to skeletons.
We are certainly better in treating the virus so as to avoid deaths. We are also better in certain cases of merely delaying the inevitable.
So her telling may explain the data.
I doubt NJ is alone in this regard.
It's literally no change from the current state. He went from "strongly recommended" to "required". Too bad that it's unenforceable. Once again, instead of being a real leader and dealing with the specific problems (and we all know what they are), he issues a meaningless blanket feel good statement.
My mother in law is a head nurse at Deborah Heart hospital(state mandated they take covid patients) they had their 1st Covid death. The man who died had been in a year before for heart surgery and told he didn't have long. He died of a heart attack but staff was instructed that since Covid couldn't be ruled out as an underlying cause it was listed under a Covid death. Is this what all states are doing?
its meaningless for show, people were doing this anyway, now he is just appearing to be a dictator
https://www.propublica.org/article/...deaths-in-houston-may-be-higher-than-reported
Consistent with research that has shown a notable spike in all-cause mortality where the virus is present, Houston has had a spike in dead on arrival, cardiac arrest 911 calls.
There were 300 DOA calls in June, 75 more (33%), than the previous two Junes.
Consistent with research that has shown a notable spike in all-cause mortality where the virus is present, Houston has had a spike in dead on arrival, cardiac arrest 911 calls.
There were 300 DOA calls in June, 75 more (33%), than the previous two Junes.
Last night you thought what I said made sense, but now that Murphy basically said the same thing in the order, you're calling him a dictator. I'm confused.
New Jersey has been doing this all along classifying many deaths as covid even if they weren't all because of money!!
Surpassing their previous high of 121 set in April. Still putting up big new case counts too.
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