brilliant, a bunch of Karens on the board whining that only Numbers can post in this thread and only Numbers can post political thoughts...and the best one yet, Numbers is always right
COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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I understand and like to read number’s postings. I question some of them and I also agree with some .I also think we all have a right to say ...I agree with so and so’s opinion. You immediately are telling someone to “gather up “ those who question or are not apt to believe what the OP posts ...It’s still a free society at least until November. If someone chooses not to accept every damn article so be it. You don’t see how that sounds ? Numbers is a smart guy and sometimes the “attacks” are not totally warranted perhaps. In this instance what was said by him was a political note. Many have done the exact same. Numbers has handled things well he’s a grown man.
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And the current corona death numbers are questionable:
And thank god we have the knowledge and protocols we have today or the COVID-19 numbers would resemble the Spanish Flu Death Tolls.
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This thread is fascinating to watch.
Back to the topic. More info about the risk of obesity. Bottom line, lose weight:
Why Obesity May Stack the Deck for COVID-19 Risk
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200714/why-obesity-may-stack-the-deck-for-covid-19-risk
Markers Hint to Reason
So why is that? Some people say that being heavier just makes it harder to breathe, especially when you’re sick.
“On the radio, you heard people making really facile comments about big tummies and pressing on the diaphragm and bad for ventilation and rather simplistic thoughts about why obesity might be associated with bad outcomes, and I wondered about that,” O’Rahilly says, “and I thought it was a bit unlikely.”
Instead, he thinks the risk comes from the fact that fat makes and regulates hormones.
For example, people who are obese make more of something called “complement” proteins. These proteins can trigger out-of-control blood clotting, which is a problem in patients with severe COVID-19.
People with obesity also have lower blood levels of a hormone called adiponectin. Recent studies in mice show that adiponectin protects the lungs. O’Rahilly thinks that if you have lower levels to begin with, you may be more likely to have lung inflammation during an infection like COVID-19.
Adiponectin also helps keep blood vessels clean and open.
A Mixture of Problems
So if the insides of your blood vessels are sticky, and a virus causes your immune system to go haywire and create more blood clots, that sets the stage for blockages. These blockages can cause heart attacks, strokes, and lung damage -- all problems seen in COVID-19 patients.
To compound the problem, people with obesity appear to have more ACE2 receptors on their cells than others. ACE2 receptors are the doors the virus uses to infect cells and then make more copies of itself.
A recent study found that fat tissue has more ACE2 receptors than lung cells do. More ACE2 may mean more virus in the body, says Carl Lavie, MD, medical director of cardiac rehabilitation and prevention at Ochsner Health in New Orleans.
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respectfully- I think the reaction you are complaining about is based on the repeated tone/attitude in your posts, which you do not see on your own — yet you are quick on the trigger when someone replies in kind.
respectfully- I think the reaction you are complaining about is based on the repeated tone/attitude in your posts, which you do not see on your own — yet you are quick on the trigger when someone replies in kind.
The reports on Rodriguez are a little conflicting. Rodriguez himself said the symptoms make him feel like he is "100 years old". Yet the organization describes his symptoms a minor. Hopefully, for his sake, whatever he has is treatable. However, acute myocarditis has been occurring in some and causing lasting damage, resulting in moderate to severely reduced ejection fractions. It is lightly reported that Rodriguez has myocarditis.
Maybe if the elderly, the poor, and the minority communities that are most heavily affected by the virus and obesity could get access to healthier food... oh wait, this administration doesn't want to support that either.
Plenty of healthy food options available, even for the poor. Besides, plenty of obese wealthy people and those living in suburbs so "access" is just a convenient excuse. Perhaps education on nutrition is a better focus?
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So you get this correct...I don’t support the cancel culture movement in any form.I have expressed my support to what I and millions of others do ... I don’t whine about who lost or who won an election... I have more than likely voted many more times than you in this life... I also have voted for various party candidates as well..as for your “ aren’t you all one” ...your point is? Say it and don’t be a coward ...see I’ll say it to your face not like some .
That’s simply not true. Place yourself in the middle of Trenton or somewhere similar with no car, little money, a limited access to transportation. You’re not eating well and you’re certainly not eating healthy. Food deserts are a very real thing.
Education on nutrition would be much better if the food industry wasn't the one who drives the messaging on healthy eating.
Thanks, knew you'd eventually see the light.
First of all not every person who is born into poverty stays in poverty. Not everyone turns to alcohol or drugs...not everyone laments their situation ... I’ll keep saying this over and over ...we realize poverty becomes a vicious cycle and sadly it impacts too many people...So , who is at fault , the tax payer or those who we elect and have elected time after time? The best part is in our state of NJ we have listened to all the rhetoric extolling the great support of welfare type programs associated with ending hunger , solving inadequate housing , improving inferior education in inner cities through charter schools , health support and even more recently free CC tuitions. Still for some reason we see posts such as this ...Back during the ‘30’s depression did people with absolutely nothing, somehow turn their lives around ? It’s not always the fault of society that people fall in between the cracks ...In this era it is the easy way out ...blame it on the other side.
So are you saying that the 3 supermarkets in Trenton don't have product? No fruit and veggies? No chicken? None of that stuff?
How about nutrition class in public schools? How about nutrition education when participating in government support programs? Simple stuff.
Hopefully corona is a wake up call for people living unhealthy lives.
Interesting Covid conspiracy survey. Definitely notice similar trends with what I see from FB
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...-conspiracy-theory-that-covid-19-was-planned/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...-conspiracy-theory-that-covid-19-was-planned/
CDC changes COVID-19 guidance on how long patients need to be isolated
Most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms, so the CDC is now discouraging people from getting tested a second time
People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover.
“For most persons with COVID-19 illness, isolation and precautions can generally be discontinued 10 days after symptom onset and resolution of fever for at least 24 hours, without the use of fever-reducing medications, and with improvement of other symptoms,” the CDC says.
For people who have tested positive but don't have symptoms, "isolation and other precautions can be discontinued 10 days after the date of their first positive RT-PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 RNA.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...9-guidance-how-long-patients-need-be-n1234883
Most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms, so the CDC is now discouraging people from getting tested a second time
People who have been confirmed with mild to moderate COVID-19 can leave their isolation without receiving a negative test, according to recently revised guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover.
“For most persons with COVID-19 illness, isolation and precautions can generally be discontinued 10 days after symptom onset and resolution of fever for at least 24 hours, without the use of fever-reducing medications, and with improvement of other symptoms,” the CDC says.
For people who have tested positive but don't have symptoms, "isolation and other precautions can be discontinued 10 days after the date of their first positive RT-PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 RNA.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...9-guidance-how-long-patients-need-be-n1234883
There is one supermarket in the US for every 8,000 people. Are you saying 3 supermarkets in Trenton for 83,000 people is adequate?
Yes.
There is 1 supermarket in my town of 23,000. There are 2 supermarkets in Hillsborough (pop of 40,000). Etc.....
They did teach in public schools. Remember the food pyramid? That was funded by food companies/ industry, not actual nutritionists and medical professionals.
A real class on nutrition. Let's call it Life Skills 101. First half of the year is about nutrition, second half about personal finances.
It's not just that. When you're poor, you end up having to make the choice... cheap processed food that can stretch to 4 or 5 meals, or real veggies and protein that can only do thru 2 or 3. My dad's family grew up on potatoes and fatback as their primary meal of the day because it was cheap as hell. That's what it took to feed a family of 8.
Totally agree. Both are ignored. Needs to start in middle school and repeated in hs.
Moderna getting another boatload of money for their Phase III trial that’s finally set to start tomorrow.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...avirus-vaccine-development-idUSKCN24R0IN?il=0
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...avirus-vaccine-development-idUSKCN24R0IN?il=0
As of today there are just 725 hospitalized for Covid in NJ and just 125 in ICU. Both lowest since March.
I have no problem with such an award. The US should support the development of possible vaccines as much as possible. However, this award is much different than the purchase order Pfizer announced (which is also a great idea, ensure we get what our citizens need ASAP).
Yeah me either, whatever it takes for a vaccine. Just hope it pays off.
Are you claiming those supermarkets repeatedly run out of healthy food options?
And they survived. Poor kids are getting at least 2 meals from their schools 365 days a year. They are getting government money and food stamps. You can get a grilled chicken wrap for $1 at Wendy’s
You can eat healthy to pretty healthy cheap if you want. But excuses are easier.
Seems like hospitalizations arent really going up in Florida
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And the current corona death numbers are questionable:
Spanish flu, are you kidding me? Is this society full of snow flakes? Black Death wiped out 1/3 of Europe’s population - anything short of that and we should all be sharing ice cream cones and crowding into train cars with strangers.
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