Is it time to start Gavin?
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Haha yes just messing around!
It’s time to unleash Gavin. Hoping we go NIT so he gets valuable tournament experience
I am shocked that no one else other than @bac2therac has given me sh!t. I deserve it.
Gavin's defense was better than Hyatt last night. Terrible game all around by Andre.
Unfortunately, this is the last home game and senior night, so Hyatt will almost certainly start. Curious if Pike puts in all the guys who are running out of eligibility or graduating as starters for at least the first couple of minutes.
As far as performance, though, over the last 5 games Hyatt has gotten 22.8 min to Griffith's 20.6. Adjusting to 40 min:
Hyatt: 12.6 pts (.333 FG%, .176 3P%), 5.6 rb, 1.8 ast, 2.1 stl, 0.7 blk, 2.5 tov, 1.4 pf
Griffiths: 14.4 pts (.364 FG%, .409 3P%), 7.4 rb, 2.7 ast, 0.8 stl, 1.9 blk, 0.4 tov, 2.3 pf
I definitely think Griffiths has earned the start, at the very least for the B1G tournament.
As far as performance, though, over the last 5 games Hyatt has gotten 22.8 min to Griffith's 20.6. Adjusting to 40 min:
Hyatt: 12.6 pts (.333 FG%, .176 3P%), 5.6 rb, 1.8 ast, 2.1 stl, 0.7 blk, 2.5 tov, 1.4 pf
Griffiths: 14.4 pts (.364 FG%, .409 3P%), 7.4 rb, 2.7 ast, 0.8 stl, 1.9 blk, 0.4 tov, 2.3 pf
I definitely think Griffiths has earned the start, at the very least for the B1G tournament.
NIT? Now as nice as that might be for some fans it is a huge disappointment . We had positive momentum and shat the bowl.
And comparing our other starters over the last 5 games, adjusting to per 40 min, sorting by pts:
JW: 20.3 pts (.549 FG%, .167 3P%, .750 FT%), 3.6 rb, 3.3 ast, 2.1 stl, 3.6 tov, 5.2 pf
CO: 13.7 pts (.545 FG%, .714 FT%), 9.7 rb, 1.0 ast, 1.7 stl, 2.7 blk, 1.3 tof, 4.3 pf
AH: 12.6 pts (.333 FG%, .176 3P%, .688 FT%), 5.6 rb, 1.8 ast, 2.1 stl, 0.7 blk, 2.5 tov, 1.4 pf
JD: 10.3 pts (.417 FG%, .167 3P%, .625 FT%), 5.3 rb, 1.3 ast, 2.0 stl, 2.0 tov, 2.0 pf
DS: 6.2 pts (.229 FG%, .250 3P%, 1.000 FT%, 4.6 rb, 2.3 ast, 2.3 stl, 1.6 tov, 2.9 pf
GG: 14.4 pts (.364 FG%, .409 3P%, 1.000 FT%), 7.4 rb, 2.7 ast, 0.8 stl, 1.9 blk, 0.4 tov, 2.3 pf
JW: 20.3 pts (.549 FG%, .167 3P%, .750 FT%), 3.6 rb, 3.3 ast, 2.1 stl, 3.6 tov, 5.2 pf
CO: 13.7 pts (.545 FG%, .714 FT%), 9.7 rb, 1.0 ast, 1.7 stl, 2.7 blk, 1.3 tof, 4.3 pf
AH: 12.6 pts (.333 FG%, .176 3P%, .688 FT%), 5.6 rb, 1.8 ast, 2.1 stl, 0.7 blk, 2.5 tov, 1.4 pf
JD: 10.3 pts (.417 FG%, .167 3P%, .625 FT%), 5.3 rb, 1.3 ast, 2.0 stl, 2.0 tov, 2.0 pf
DS: 6.2 pts (.229 FG%, .250 3P%, 1.000 FT%, 4.6 rb, 2.3 ast, 2.3 stl, 1.6 tov, 2.9 pf
GG: 14.4 pts (.364 FG%, .409 3P%, 1.000 FT%), 7.4 rb, 2.7 ast, 0.8 stl, 1.9 blk, 0.4 tov, 2.3 pf
I could easily see Noah, AWill, Hyatt, Oskar, and Cliff.
Personally I wouldn’t, but its common practice.
I mean it happens. Not every year is going to be a March Madness. For a program that has gotten into March Madness multiple years in a row and now has championship aspirations next season, an NIT in between that really has no shame.
Is it possible Oskar pulls off one of the best feats ever by a Rutgers athlete?
Participates in 3 senior nights?
Participates in 3 senior nights?
You speak as though we have been a consistent player in the post season. 3 years ain’t squat by most standards. When old farts like me see this type thinking sure it sounds great but the reality is we can’t figure next season as a sweet 16 or better run.
I very much agree we want March Madness. I mean it’s what we care most about. I totally get that. All I’m saying is that for a season people halfway through said was over done and fire Pike, getting to NIT would be a win. It’s not NIT of the past either.
As a self proclaimed “old fart”, wouldn’t you have paid to have RU in the same company as many of these teams just even 4-5 years ago?
NIT Bracketology, March 4
The final two spots in this NIT bracket came down to essentially six teams: St. Bonaventure , Rutgers , Loyola Chicago , Yale , Indiana and...
He plays with his head up and is a good passer.
Also an underrated shot blocker. I’m convinced he purposely lets guys get past him slightly so he can block their shot.
And, he gets called for fouls even when he gets all ball, because he’s usually to the side or behind the shooter, so the refs go to automatic whistle mode.
Not really… that’s a fan’s perspective in order to salve the wound. We did the same… we played poorly when we needed to show more last year. At this time we are beginning to set a pattern . Streaky but can’t do what other teams have shown at season’s end. The Mag, DS , A.Williams , Woolfolk , Hyatt saga’s just have made it tougher. We seem to have more injuries than ever.
This is like Kofi Cockburn entering the NBA draft 3 times before staying in and going undrafted.
I actually don’t care that much if Gavin starts. What I do want to see is plays actually run for him and our guards to look for him coming off screens.
This season more than past seasons, when Rutgers has actually ran set plays, they’ve been effective at getting open looks. Unfortunately, they’re not usually called for Gavin. It’s time to start to see what he can look like as the off ball weapon he should be next season.
This season more than past seasons, when Rutgers has actually ran set plays, they’ve been effective at getting open looks. Unfortunately, they’re not usually called for Gavin. It’s time to start to see what he can look like as the off ball weapon he should be next season.
2 things you won't see and 1 you may see
1. Shayle Keating is gone...no more lfball
2. One more good game and @MiloTalon13 is back
3. No more Cox and Rice....no more HYPE
1. Shayle Keating is gone...no more lfball
2. One more good game and @MiloTalon13 is back
3. No more Cox and Rice....no more HYPE
The 5 game numbers go back to being not so great.
108 minutes 35 points 9-24 3 12-36 overall 6/1 A/to 1 stl 5 blk 2 oreb 16 dreb
Gavin definitely took a huge step backwards yesterday. His D waas awful and he continues to lose every 50/50 ball possible. Last 5 games he got 20+ minutes in 4 of the 5 games. The only game he didn't we won by 30. Yes vs Michigan.....
The potential is there but if he doesn't toughen up and play better D he is going to have to be really good offensively to be a player that helps us win.
108 minutes 35 points 9-24 3 12-36 overall 6/1 A/to 1 stl 5 blk 2 oreb 16 dreb
Gavin definitely took a huge step backwards yesterday. His D waas awful and he continues to lose every 50/50 ball possible. Last 5 games he got 20+ minutes in 4 of the 5 games. The only game he didn't we won by 30. Yes vs Michigan.....
The potential is there but if he doesn't toughen up and play better D he is going to have to be really good offensively to be a player that helps us win.
I sit two rows from the court and have watched up close all season GG play home games. My impressions are not good. I won't even address his lack of scoring and rebounding. My main concern is that he plays with little emotion and almost zero physicality. In fact, when he if coming up court without the ball his body language is terrible, that is, expressionless face with his shoulders virtually stooped forward as he heads to the corner of the court where he for the most part stays fixed in place. He appears slow of foot and lacks quickness. He will need to take quantum leaps forward from a S & C standpoint (i.e., a diet of T-Bone steaks and metal plates). I want the team to win so I hope he becomes an effective player for us. And yes, I acknowledge he is a true freshman, albeit a much heralded one, and because of that the jury remains out. However, for the reasons stated I am not confident the eventual verdict will be a positive one.
He’s not slow. He actually covers a lot of ground with his long strides and has the ability to get to the basket. Agree he’s not quick, but not many players at his height are quick. He definitely needs to get more physical and aggressive. He also needs to make some darn shots.
The physicality seemed to improve a little last couple games, but yeah, I'm not seeing much of a fire in him. I sense this season has been completely overwhelming for him. Let's see if he starts to put things together in the off-season, bulk up a bit, and comes back with some confidence/swagger.
This is a nitpicking thing… but when he comes to the bench he doesn’t go down the like everyone else does then take a seat… he did it maybe once that I’ve seen at home. Now… is it just a minor thing or a chemistry thing? I dunno, but if everyone else does it, so should he.
That's almost unfathomable. Can't be more than one, maybe two Big Ten rotation guys lower than them.
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