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Did this buffoon take out Matz with only 80 pitches and then also takes out JD Davis.....so let alone he's setting up Diaz for a save with Lugo coming in, he now has 3 auto outs in Altherr; Tejada and Lagares. And still keeps Lugo in giving up hits to 6 straight hitters.......I'm sorry but Calloway is just so awful.....
 
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How about giving the guy a shot and a couple of games? Sheesh.
He's had a shot for 7 frickin years...he sucks......there's a large enough sample size to know how bad he is....158 career RBI's in 2,110 AB's...do the math.....he'll be 1 for 10 and someting like 3 for 20 with 7-8 K's.......I'd rather have one of the pitchers who can hit play 2b....or simply play panik or dilson herrera.....not being to sign asdrubal cabrera is a big loss
 
Forget what took place vs the Nats over the weekend. Like it never happened now. Right back at square one. And yes everybody else in wild card contention won today.
 
He's had a shot for 7 frickin years...he sucks......there's a large enough sample size to know how bad he is....158 career RBI's in 2,110 AB's...do the math.....he'll be 1 for 10 and someting like 3 for 20 with 7-8 K's.......I'd rather have one of the pitchers who can hit play 2b....or simply play panik or dilson herrera.....not being to sign asdrubal cabrera is a big loss
Not really "7 Frickin years." Calm the F down already.

in 2011 and 2012, he hit 284 and 289. He was injured quite a bit and only had 208 ABs in 2013. He hit 261 in his last season with the mets before getting injured in 2015.
Sure, he is not a power hitter that is going to pile up RBIs. But he is a serviceable bottom of the order fill in option at 2B.
 
Matz had thrown three atom balls in the prior inning. Then ran the bases hard. I can't second guess Mickey going with his best reliever for the needed shutdown inning. It just didn't work out. Sh!t happens.
Disagree. Not the biggest Matz fan but let him give up a walk or a hit and then take him out. The only justification for taking Matz out is if he is hurt or winded etc. 79 pitches ...yeesh.....how does calloway look his team in the eye after this game and his bonehead decisions?
 
That was bad managing no other way to look at it. Even if Lugo comes in and gets 2 scoreless it would have been the Braves 1-3 Acuna, Albies, Freeman in the top if the 9th with Diaz to close. That's not very favorable either. Had to leave Matz and Davis in there. I just hope we can salvage the game tomorrow and then go into KC and take 2 out of 3 or sweep.
 
Not really "7 Frickin years." Calm the F down already.

in 2011 and 2012, he hit 284 and 289. He was injured quite a bit and only had 208 ABs in 2013. He hit 261 in his last season with the mets before getting injured in 2015.
Sure, he is not a power hitter that is going to pile up RBIs. But he is a serviceable bottom of the order fill in option at 2B.
2011 and 2012...lol.....why don;t we bring back rj dickey?......he's NOT serviceable........ the last year you reference is 2015...do you realize that's 4 years ago and he sucked then....Gentlemen's bet: he won't be hitting over .200 with his first 10 AB's or 20 AB's. His BA in 2016 was .166 and .230 in 2017 with 10 rbi's in 179 AB's in Baltimore no less......funny you don't mention those years - the most recent years...lol.....its great to be a fan and root for our team but one also needs to be realistic about what to expect and we know what to expect from ruben unfortunately.....
 
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That was bad managing no other way to look at it. Even if Lugo comes in and gets 2 scoreless it would have been the Braves 1-3 Acuna, Albies, Freeman in the top if the 9th with Diaz to close. That's not very favorable either. Had to leave Matz and Davis in there. I just hope we can salvage the game tomorrow and then go into KC and take 2 out of 3 or sweep.
That is a very good point. Mets may well have been better advised to try to get Matz through the seventh, and then Lugo eighth and ninth. As opposed to Lugo seventh and eighth, and Diaz ninth.

Of course since Lugo had nothing, the point is moot. Looking back, it was just a matter of which inning would we blow the lead.
 
I've been on the fence about going to StubHub to grab a ticket to tomorrow nights game. Not a chance that happens now. Only reason I'm still watching now is to see what lame excuses Mickey comes up with post game.
 
That is a very good point. Mets may well have been better advised to try to get Matz through the seventh, and then Lugo eighth and ninth. As opposed to Lugo seventh and eighth, and Diaz ninth.

Of course since Lugo had nothing, the point is moot. Looking back, it was just a matter of which inning would we blow the lead.
Lugo was probably shocked he was asked to pitch the 7th inning and I wonder if he was physically and/or mentally ready given he appeared to be our closer going forwards.
 
Matz had thrown three atom balls in the prior inning. Then ran the bases hard. I can't second guess Mickey going with his best reliever for the needed shutdown inning. It just didn't work out. Sh!t happens.

The outfielder had to race in to catch each of those balls. Sharply hit, but "atom balls" is not how I would describe it.
 
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Lugo was probably shocked he was asked to pitch the 7th inning and I wonder if he was physically and/or mentally ready given he appeared to be our closer going forwards.
If so, then shame on Lugo.

This was one instance where Callaway was actually doing what he said he would do when he took the job (and then rarely did). That is, forget about defined roles, and focus on situations. Getting the shutdown inning in the seventh was key - arguably the most important inning in the game.
 
If so, then shame on Lugo.

This was one instance where Callaway was actually doing what he said he would do when he took the job (and then rarely did). That is, forget about defined roles, and focus on situations. Getting the shutdown inning in the seventh was key - arguably the most important inning in the game.
Why was the 7th, with the 4th 5th and 6th batters due up, the most important inning? And even if it was why not stick with the starter who had been rolling and had thrown only 79 pitches?
 
I expected better from Ramos who has actually been pretty clutch this season. That 2nd strike he took was perfect to shoot into right field as he usually does so well. And yet he swung at 2 balls.
 
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2011 and 2012...lol.....why don;t we bring back rj dickey?......he's NOT serviceable........ the last year you reference is 2015...do you realize that's 4 years ago and he sucked then....Gentlemen's bet: he won't be hitting over .200 with his first 10 AB's or 20 AB's. His BA in 2016 was .166 and .230 in 2017 with 10 rbi's in 179 AB's in Baltimore no less......funny you don't mention those years - the most recent years...lol.....its great to be a fan and root for our team but one also needs to be realistic about what to expect and we know what to expect from ruben unfortunately.....
Why don't you piss all over the rest of the lineup that did nothing tonight:
Conforto
Ramos
Frazier

Mets had several opportunities to score runs tonight having nothing to do with Tejada and they failed. Yet you want to single out one guy.
 
Why don't you piss all over the rest of the lineup that did nothing tonight:
Conforto
Ramos
Frazier

Mets had several opportunities to score runs tonight having nothing to do with Tejada and they failed. Yet you want to single out one guy.
You're the one who said to give Tejada a chance and kept my post alive. Dude sucks...Simple as hell......the whole baseball universe knows it......except you.....Conforto, Ramos and Frazier are proven MLB hitters just not tonight....nice deflection however....:)
 
Calloway is on heroin.......said he took Matz out because Lugo is the best reliever in the world...you can't make this up......
 
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Why was the 7th, with the 4th 5th and 6th batters due up, the most important inning? And even if it was why not stick with the starter who had been rolling and had thrown only 79 pitches?
1) Late in the game, getting the shutdown inning (i.e., putting up a zero immediately after you've taken the lead) is vital IMO. If you can do that, you usually keep the opponent's best relievers out of the game, and you give yourself a better chance to tack on. Maybe when the ninth rolls around you won't even need your closer. Admittedly that is not conventional baseball wisdom. But IF that was Callaway's thought process, I understand it.

2) I don't know. I'm not privy to whether Matz is losing it or not, and whether he's gone as far as he can regardless of pitch count. Callaway and Regan are paid to make those decisions, perhaps with input from Ramos. I do know that in the prior inning, Matz had given up three line drives, all of which found leather. That may have factored into the decision.

BTW, "atom ball" is derived from "at 'em" - a line drive right at somebody.
 
1) Late in the game, getting the shutdown inning (i.e., putting up a zero immediately after you've taken the lead) is vital IMO. If you can do that, you usually keep the opponent's best relievers out of the game, and you give yourself a better chance to tack on. Maybe when the ninth rolls around you won't even need your closer. Admittedly that is not conventional baseball wisdom. But IF that was Callaway's thought process, I understand it.

2) I don't know. I'm not privy to whether Matz is losing it or not, and whether he's gone as far as he can regardless of pitch count. Callaway and Regan are paid to make those decisions, perhaps with input from Ramos. I do know that in the prior inning, Matz had given up three line drives, all of which found leather. That may have factored into the decision.

BTW, "atom ball" is derived from "at 'em" - a line drive right at somebody.
1 - Calloway doesn't have a thought process. Todd Zeile is ripping him on the post game. Clueless decisions with Matz; with Lugo and with JD Davis - let alone Tejada.

2 - As I stated in a post above, decision to bring Lugo in was abrupt. He was not ready. He also had no one warming up in the bullpen when Lugo came in.

This buffoon is so over his head. Karma all throughout this winning streak was to have SP's go deep and use bullpen for 1-2 innings. So he steered away from plan with Matz at 79 frickin pitches.

I can;t wait to hear Sal Licata rip Calloway
 
3 of top 10 Twitter trends are: Matz; Lugo and Calloway. I wonder why. When you are in a pennant / wild card playoff race, you need a manager who sees the big picture and doesn't lose games. He lost the game with the bonehead Matz decision and even if that worked, he probably would have lost the game with having to use Diaz in the 9th.
 
2011 and 2012...lol.....why don;t we bring back rj dickey?......he's NOT serviceable........ the last year you reference is 2015...do you realize that's 4 years ago and he sucked then....Gentlemen's bet: he won't be hitting over .200 with his first 10 AB's or 20 AB's. His BA in 2016 was .166 and .230 in 2017 with 10 rbi's in 179 AB's in Baltimore no less......funny you don't mention those years - the most recent years...lol.....its great to be a fan and root for our team but one also needs to be realistic about what to expect and we know what to expect from ruben unfortunately.....
Why don't you piss all over the rest of the lineup that did nothing tonight:
Conforto
Ramos
Frazier

Mets had several opportunities to score runs tonight having nothing to do with Tejada and they failed. Yet you want to single out one guy.
The top of the lineup without McNeil was not an issue tonight with Rosario and Davis doing the job. But from 3-6 with Alonso, Ramos, Conforto and Frazier simply didnt get it done. That's often the difference between the Braves run producers and ours. They also hit for average while ours are in middling 250-260 range and often are feast or famine with tons of strikeouts. That's why a guy like Freeman has around 100 ribby's with 27 home runs vs a guy like Conforto with 60-65 with about the same amount of long balls. If there's one thing I envy them for its having guys who produce with men on base. Not merely hit a lot of solo home runs yet more typically come up empty with runners in scoring position.
 
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We are seeing why the Braves are comfortably in first place. Better team all around. Solid offense up and down the lineup.
In the end, this is the issue. The Mets have a flawed roster. Worse, they have a decimated minor league system. No help is coming, only more moronic moves by Van Numbnuts, also known as Al Harazin II. Sure, Callaway's decision to remove Matz and thereby assign 3 innings to that bullpen was stupid, made even more so given that it came after he chose to hit Matz in the top of the inning. But it's just a rounding error compared to the roster and organizational damage that Van Dummkopf is doing. He's busy fashioning a roster and system that a great manager couldn't win with.
 
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