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OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread

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Jerry Meals must have had early dinner reservations.That pitch to Jones was clearly outside.Tiger announcers are in an uproar.
 
Never gonna happen, BVW clients need playing time. And JL will bump one of the kids once he is healthy.
I kind of get BVW signing his ex clients because he was familiar with them but at this point, it makes no sense to say he has them play because they were his clients. How in flaming hell does that have to do with his current job. Now, if you said that because he signed his ex clients and over payed and now stuck because he made that mistake, different story.
 
Young man, are you lost?
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Back to the Met's...anyone else getting concerned that Alonso has seemed to fallen in love with the HR too much. He built up his BA early with hitting the ball to all fields and hitting line drives that either went out or hit a hole somewhere. Now, it seems like every swing is trying to hit a 3 run HR.
And while 40+ HR is great, I am getting concerned that he becomes a 40 HR 220 BA kind of guy.
BTW- on a great note with him...he almost seems to be above average in the field vs that hack they made him out to be.
 
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Back to the Met's...anyone else getting concerned that Alonso has seemed to fallen in love with the HR too much. He built up his BA early with hitting the ball to all fields and hitting line drives that either went out or hit a hole somewhere. Now, it seems like every swing is trying to hit a 3 run HR.
And while 40+ HR is great, I am getting concerned that he becomes a 40 HR 220 BA kind of guy.
BTW- on a great note with him...he almost seems to be above average in the field vs that hack they made him out to be.
I'm hoping he's just in the adjustment phase of his young career.
 
Back to the Met's...anyone else getting concerned that Alonso has seemed to fallen in love with the HR too much. He built up his BA early with hitting the ball to all fields and hitting line drives that either went out or hit a hole somewhere. Now, it seems like every swing is trying to hit a 3 run HR.
And while 40+ HR is great, I am getting concerned that he becomes a 40 HR 220 BA kind of guy.
BTW- on a great note with him...he almost seems to be above average in the field vs that hack they made him out to be.

Pitchers are adjusting to him. He will eventually adjust back. That is why you can’t count on rookies to carry a team.
 
Back to the Met's...anyone else getting concerned that Alonso has seemed to fallen in love with the HR too much. He built up his BA early with hitting the ball to all fields and hitting line drives that either went out or hit a hole somewhere. Now, it seems like every swing is trying to hit a 3 run HR.
And while 40+ HR is great, I am getting concerned that he becomes a 40 HR 220 BA kind of guy.
BTW- on a great note with him...he almost seems to be above average in the field vs that hack they made him out to be.
God I hope not. I remember the days of Dave Kingman.
 
That would be right up the Wilpons Alley since they would rather have the 30 HR, 200 K from Alonso or anyone else like Frazier and the like than have a .330 hitter spray the field like McNeil, Smith, JD Davis, etc.
 
That would be right up the Wilpons Alley since they would rather have the 30 HR, 200 K from Alonso or anyone else like Frazier and the like than have a .330 hitter spray the field like McNeil, Smith, JD Davis, etc.
Correct on first two but Davis is most likely a 270 25-35 HR guy in a full time roll. Davis is a right handed Conforto. But our wonderful Met management would never want that...
 
Correct on first two but Davis is most likely a 270 25-35 HR guy in a full time roll. Davis is a right handed Conforto. But our wonderful Met management would never want that...
Youre right. And I agree that I rather have the 270, 25 hitter than their preferred hitter who may strike out more than their average.
 
Lineup:
Amed Rosario, SS
J.D. Davis, LF
Michael Conforto, RF
Pete Alonso, 1B
Todd Frazier, 3B
Adeiny Hechavarria, 2B
Juan Lagares, CF
Tomas Nido, C
Jacob deGrom, RHP
 
Kelenic with a 9th inning clutch HR today. He's probably going to end up top 10 prospect this year if not top 5.
 
Is he going to visit this thread weekly like Tom Flacco? It's over, Johnny. Over!

It is over but I'd like to remind everyone how bad BVW is on his big trade. Why do we want someone making that deal running our team? He was also the cockiest SOB before the season and it's a direct line of crap to the ownership.
 
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It is over but I'd like to remind everyone how bad BVW is on his big trade. Why do we want someone making that deal running our team? He was also the cockiest SOB to do nothing before the season and it's a direct line of crap to the ownership.
The Mets are much like Rutgers Athletics. The ultimate leadership of the organization (Mets-Wilpons; RU- Barchi-BOG) are loathe to spend money. Bad hiring decisions in key leadership positions have set the team back. That's the situation. For the Mets, it is more frustrating because it is a professional sports organization. Not going to measure a big trade on the statistics of a minor league player in an unfinished season. Time will tell if BVW is an upgrade over Alderson, who needed to go sooner than last year.
 
The Mets are much like Rutgers Athletics. The ultimate leadership of the organization (Mets-Wilpons; RU- Barchi-BOG) are loathe to spend money. Bad hiring decisions in key leadership positions have set the team back. That's the situation. For the Mets, it is more frustrating because it is a professional sports organization. Not going to measure a big trade on the statistics of a minor league player in an unfinished season. Time will tell if BVW is an upgrade over Alderson, who needed to go sooner than last year.

You're spot on with everything but I just can't forgive getting rid of the kid right now. I said it then and I'll continue to say it until I'm proven wrong. He's a special player.
 
You're spot on with everything but I just can't forgive getting rid of the kid right now. I said it then and I'll continue to say it until I'm proven wrong. He's a special player.

Yep, hated it from Day 1 too. Almost gave up McNeil too. Lol
 
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You're spot on with everything but I just can't forgive getting rid of the kid right now. I said it then and I'll continue to say it until I'm proven wrong. He's a special player.
I don't follow the minors at all.
What were the options?
Mets needed a closer. Diaz has been OK for the most part.
Didn't the Mets get $20 million for Cano's $120 million contract, in addition to unloading Bruce's $26 million and Swarzak's $8 million?
Jarred Kelenic, Justin Dunn, Jay Bruce, Anthony Swarzak, and Gerson Bautista

So, was unloading Dunn, and Bautista smart?
Seems unloading Swarzak and Bruce was a good idea, and that cash was sorely needed to pay for the remaining $100 million on Cano's contract.
 
I don't follow the minors at all.
What were the options?
Mets needed a closer. Diaz has been OK for the most part.
Didn't the Mets get $20 million for Cano's $120 million contract, in addition to unloading Bruce's $26 million and Swarzak's $8 million?
Jarred Kelenic, Justin Dunn, Jay Bruce, Anthony Swarzak, and Gerson Bautista

So, was unloading Dunn, and Bautista smart?
Seems unloading Swarzak and Bruce was a good idea, and that cash was sorely needed to pay for the remaining $100 million on Cano's contract.

But why do we want to bring on Cano? An aging steroid lazy player who was turning 37? The trade never made sense. Use that money smartly a million different ways and keep your best prospect and 3rd best.
 
The Mets are much like Rutgers Athletics. The ultimate leadership of the organization (Mets-Wilpons; RU- Barchi-BOG) are loathe to spend money. Bad hiring decisions in key leadership positions have set the team back. That's the situation. For the Mets, it is more frustrating because it is a professional sports organization. Not going to measure a big trade on the statistics of a minor league player in an unfinished season. Time will tell if BVW is an upgrade over Alderson, who needed to go sooner than last year.
I don't totally agree. Historically, the Wilpons have not been tight-fisted. Remember 1992 - the worst team money could buy? And Omar's Minayacal spending spree of the oughts? It wasn't until the Madoff bubble burst, that the Wilpons went on an austerity kick - one from which they have emerged. At least that's what Yoenis Cespedes and Robinson Cano tell me.

The Mets will never be the Steinbrenner Yankees. But they spend enough.

To me the larger issue is the degree of owner interference. Jeff likes to call the shots and he's not very good at it.
 
I don't totally agree. Historically, the Wilpons have not been tight-fisted. Remember 1992 - the worst team money could buy? And Omar's Minayacal spending spree of the oughts? It wasn't until the Madoff bubble burst, that the Wilpons went on an austerity kick - one from which they have emerged. At least that's what Yoenis Cespedes and Robinson Cano tell me.

The Mets will never be the Steinbrenner Yankees. But they spend enough.

To me the larger issue is the degree of owner interference. Jeff likes to call the shots and he's not very good at it.

We're not in the top 5 of payroll but are top 5 in fan gouging. The payroll is BS with insurance money not really going back in to the team.
 
Yep, hated it from Day 1 too. Almost gave up McNeil too. Lol
Huh? How do you almost trade somebody, and how do you even know that? Because it reportedly was discussed? GMs discuss a lot of things. It's kinda their job.

If you want to rip the Mets for moves that they actually made, fine. But to rip them for something they didn't actually do, but maybe thought about doing at some point, is just plain not fair.
 
Huh? How do you almost trade somebody, and how do you even know that? Because it reportedly was discussed? GMs discuss a lot of things. It's kinda their job.

If you want to rip the Mets for moves that they actually made, fine. But to rip them for something they didn't actually do, but maybe thought about doing at some point, is just plain not fair.

Permanently on record for hating the Kelenic inclusion.
 
Huh? How do you almost trade somebody, and how do you even know that? Because it reportedly was discussed? GMs discuss a lot of things. It's kinda their job.

If you want to rip the Mets for moves that they actually made, fine. But to rip them for something they didn't actually do, but maybe thought about doing at some point, is just plain not fair.

It's been widely reported McNeil almost went. Thankfully they worked him out of the deal.
 
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I don't totally agree. Historically, the Wilpons have not been tight-fisted. Remember 1992 - the worst team money could buy? And Omar's Minayacal spending spree of the oughts? It wasn't until the Madoff bubble burst, that the Wilpons went on an austerity kick - one from which they have emerged. At least that's what Yoenis Cespedes and Robinson Cano tell me.

The Mets will never be the Steinbrenner Yankees. But they spend enough.

To me the larger issue is the degree of owner interference. Jeff likes to call the shots and he's not very good at it.
I was talking post Madoff.
 
But why do we want to bring on Cano? An aging steroid lazy player who was turning 37? The trade never made sense. Use that money smartly a million different ways and keep your best prospect and 3rd best.
Cano was the albatross that came with Diaz. I am not saying that I agree with it, but apparently BVW thought he was the best closer we could get and he ran a fire sale and took an albatross to make it happen. Without knowing who the alternate closers were on the market, don't know if they could have made a better deal for someone else.
 
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