It's a 162 game season. Let's not overreact to one game, in either direction.
OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread
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Bought ourselves some room with the win last night. Basically just needed to avoid a 4 game sweep.
Freaking out? Yeah okay. And try asking those guys you listed if they're under any criticism from the media and fan base. Harper in particular might want to consider earplugs by now. So long.
For some reason, Ive been a Mets fan since Doug Flynn, Pat Zachary, and that pitcher goof who's hat flew off his head at every pitch. No overreaction here lol.
Fan since ‘77 here too - yeah, I think we have a grasp on this stuff by now, LOL.
Maybe we can beg Broxton to come back - .350 and counting for the Os with 2 HR. Can’t make this stuff up.
Don't have to make it up, because there's nothing surprising about it at all.
Broxton was something like 1 for 25 as a Met. That's .040. Is he an .040 hitter? Of course not. He was going to get hot sooner or later. Turned out to be sooner. However, the Mets had already decided they couldn't wait.
Rest assured he's not a .350 hitter either. He'll settle at about .220 because that's who he is. Simple reversion to the mean.
Its early and he won't sustain that but maybe he was on to something when he lamented the lack of any regular playing time to get into a rhythm. Not saying he should have been playing regularly for the Metros.
Last year we were the fastest ever to go from 10 games above .500 to 10 games under .500. Now the record belongs to Seattle.
There is something really wrong with Noah. He just does not seem right. It may time to bench him for 1-2 starts. He seems to have lost control of his pitches. Maybe a couple of weeks off to clear his mind will be good for him.
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Turns out I guess he didnt. And I'll quickly give him credit for a strong bounceback game. He and Dom seem to be quite the combo tonight.
I officially give up on this season. This team is garbage. Time to break it up and start over. This was probably one of the worst losses in the history of the Mets. Up 8-3 with runners in 2nd and 3rd and no outs to losing by giving up 4 runs in the bottom of the 9th inning without getting an out. Supposedly the best closer in baseball. Absolutely horrible and garbage. Goes back to what I said last year. This team is gutless and heartless.
Mets actually shouldve have swept the Dodgers (pending tonight's game). But they have choked as always.
BTW, Kelenic will be the next Mike Trout thanks to this stupid trade.
BTW, Kelenic will be the next Mike Trout thanks to this stupid trade.
Diaz...lol. This will be one of the worst Mets trades ever. Lazy Cano with a bizillion dollar contract and overrated Diaz.
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Quality work by the bullpen last night. Don't worry, only 4 more seasons of paying Cano at top dollar.
Brutal loss. No way to sugarcoat it.
Worst part is that due to the game flow, Mets had to use their top three relievers for the second night in a row. They'll all be unavailable tonight probably. Not a good formula when you're starting a five inning guy at best against an elite opponent. The path to victory tonight will be narrow indeed. Will likely take another slugfest, with a happier ending this time. Don't see that happening against Ryu though.
Worst part is that due to the game flow, Mets had to use their top three relievers for the second night in a row. They'll all be unavailable tonight probably. Not a good formula when you're starting a five inning guy at best against an elite opponent. The path to victory tonight will be narrow indeed. Will likely take another slugfest, with a happier ending this time. Don't see that happening against Ryu though.
Yep, Alonso is the problem with the Mets.
Never would have guessed pitching would be the problem this year. With the Mets, it's always something.
Never would have guessed pitching would be the problem this year. With the Mets, it's always something.
For those of you who praise that trade this is basically the 4th game Diaz has lost even though not all in save situations. This is why you don't take on a big money deal and trade your best prospect to get a closer. They're all too volatile. What a joke.
Going to be a Vargas/Font game tonight.
Going to be a Vargas/Font game tonight.
I went to sleep mid 7th inning and had a bad feeling when Mets could not expand lead up 8-3 and runners on 2Nd and 3rd and 0 out. Ramos and Frazier could not hit sac fly. Diaz is not elite. Signs have been there all season with him getting into jams etc. And Kelenic now promoted to high level A ball after killing it at low A ball.
A game that I'm glad I wasn't watching. Sounds like the game should have and could have been put away in the 7th. But at the same time it seems like no lead is safe against that team with the way home runs are flying out of ballparks this year. It's like every game is at Wrigley with the wind blowing out. The Mets would really show me something if they could somehow bounce back from this one and play a good game or possibly steal the game tonight.
I hear the Marlins are playing better and won a few series lately. Go Jeter! As the saying goes, you play the teams on the schedule.
The latter part of this road trip will tell us everything about this team. After a loss like this, if they fight back and win 2-3 games then they have a chance. If they fold and lose 3 or 4 games, then have are gutless and heartless and time to start trading.
The Mets score 8 runs against the red hot Dodgers and their solid closer blows the save, and you conclude "this team is gutless and heartless?" SMH
Post on the Mets blog by someone named Alejandro Reyes-wish he posted here:
"Hey listen, if we were supposed to go into LA and beat the best team in the NL a few times in a row, I would have said you are crazy. Here, we play a great series and lose in the last ab. Turn the page. If we play that game In NY, with our fans, we lock that game down, and take 2 of 3. Exactly how many games we need to win if we ever meet back up in the playoffs. Are the Dodgers good? Damn right they are. The Mets should be taking their cues (front office cues) from the Dodgers and the Astros. Period. We could have gotten blown out this week. Instead we are complaining about a blown save? Decide what you want, us to suck, or us to actually not be as bad as everyone thinks. We have Pete Alonso AND Dom Smith, contributing every day? In the first half of the year when they were both still supposed to be riding the bus in Syracuse? We got into Walker Bueler's head last night. We are looking up folks. Le's act like it.
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First off, this guy is talking out of his arse when he said they lost the 3 game series when they finish the four game series tonight (probably a loss in a Vargas/Font Game).
Second of all the Dodgers (and Cubs for that matter) have been successful and leaving the Mets in the dust since the 2015 playoffs (Dont get me started on this).
Thirdly, Alfonso was not supposed to be in Syracuse since he's allegedly "one of the best 25." And yes Smith is also one of the best 25 after finally figuring out why he had the year he had last year. But theyre trying their asses off to get rid of him.
Of course that Cano/Diaz trade is going to hurt the Mets for many years on many levels. Without Cano, McNeil wouldve been at second, Davis would be at third, Smith in LF, Kelenic and the others would be doing their thing in the Mets org instead of him becoming the next Mike Trout for Seattle. And for the money they took in when they outbidded themselves for Cano, they couldve signed Kimbrel or another closer instead of Diaz.
As a defender of the trade, I offer the following:
1) You are right about most closers being too volatile - but the elite are not. Is Diaz elite? He certainly had one elite season and the Mets made their big bet on that. But if one season does not mean he is elite (and it doesn't), then one-third of a season surely doesn't mean that he isn't. Let's let it play out. Remember Diaz is just 25. At that age, Mariano Rivera was a struggling starting pitcher.
2) On the topic of volatility - you know who is even more volatile than relief pitchers? Teenage prospects in Class A ball. Can we PLEASE lose the rhetoric about Kelenic being the next Mike Trout. I am begging.
3) The main thing I liked about this trade was that it suggested that the Mets were, for the first time since the Minaya era, finally "all in". We have since learned that they're not. That to me is the main problem with the trade.
Two bad outings in the last week and suddenly Diaz is Armando Benitez? Please a little perspective people. All closers have slumps and blow games. Even the great #42 blew a Game 7 in the WS. We have more than 100 games left. Let's see how the season plays out before roasting Diaz.
Can't disagree with what you said in your last paragraph, except pump the brakes on Kelenic and Smith. Cano is certainly looking like a $14 million/year albatross in the deal. But Kimbrel is meh.
I agree with most of what you said. But what tico said above about Cano is a good point. Not sure what other elite closers were on the market when Mets picked up Diaz, but Kimbrel would not have been one of my choices.
The Kelenic issue isn't going away as long as we are saddled with Cano. Instead of having another young, exciting player to look forward to team with Alonso, we have this guy loafing around and falling apart for another 4.5 years at 20 billion a year.
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