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OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread

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Doubt Diaz gives a shat about the Mets beat writers.
Athletes do read the papers, and they pretend that it doesn't bother them, but it does. Athletes like to live in a bubble because they feel protected. Some are not built to have every moved critiqued.
 
Like really the worst trade ever.

It’s truly is amazing. Traded two top prospects for an old lazy entitled cancer and a reliever who sucks and is having a nervous breakdown before our eyes.

Can’t someone persuade Cano to take PEDs again and get the Mets out of part of this mess?
 
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Diaz was the best available closer when they went after him. We know and have beaten the dead horse to dust on what else came with Diaz and what they gave up.

Bur railing about the trade based on Diaz' performance for the Mets is 20/20 hindsight. Could any of the experts predicted he would have been this bad?

Ironically, Cano has been producing at the plate lately.
I said it at the time that it was an unnecessary trade because they already had a second baseman in Jeff McNeil who everyone except the Mets brass thought was going to be at the least a good starting second baseman. Turns out that hes an All Star who can legitimately hit. Because of this they have too many infielders and no outfielders. If the Mets only had this short of a leash with Conforto and Matz and maybe one or 2 more young players who keeps teasing Mets fans with flashes of brilliance but revert to their 0-4, 3 K days... or giving up 10 runs in the first.

As far as Diaz, there were relievers out there who were available. Like in past years, they spent the money on the wrong players. Unlike past years, they had a GM who was hellbent in giving most of his former clients sweet deals that will bite the Mets in whatever ass they have left.

And for those of you who are complaining about us even mentioning the words Kelenic and Dunn, it wouldve been nice to see the Mets have their own Acuna, Albies, Hoskins, Vlad Jr, Bryant, Rizzo, Betts, Correra, Altuve, Sanchez, Judge, Andujar, Urshela, etc etc etc.
 
I said it at the time that it was an unnecessary trade because they already had a second baseman in Jeff McNeil who everyone except the Mets brass thought was going to be at the least a good starting second baseman. Turns out that hes an All Star who can legitimately hit. Because of this they have too many infielders and no outfielders. If the Mets only had this short of a leash with Conforto and Matz and maybe one or 2 more young players who keeps teasing Mets fans with flashes of brilliance but revert to their 0-4, 3 K days... or giving up 10 runs in the first.

As far as Diaz, there were relievers out there who were available. Like in past years, they spent the money on the wrong players. Unlike past years, they had a GM who was hellbent in giving most of his former clients sweet deals that will bite the Mets in whatever ass they have left.

And for those of you who are complaining about us even mentioning the words Kelenic and Dunn, it wouldve been nice to see the Mets have their own Acuna, Albies, Hoskins, Vlad Jr, Bryant, Rizzo, Betts, Correra, Altuve, Sanchez, Judge, Andujar, Urshela, etc etc etc.

While it was dumb as Fvk to bring Cano's contract here...Cano was getting paid no matter who had him. He didnt give RC his deal. Now, there were a couple he DID sign to sweet deals though and it has cost them so far.

The last sentence- makes no sense at all - Why didn't you add in McNeil, Alonso, Smith, deGrom? I didnt even mention Rosario and Conforto...The problem is we are bare now but we have quite a few really good home grown players...maybe more then we have ever had on this team. Let's hope we can restock with a Wheeler trade and maybe someone could take Matz and Vargas off our hands...
 
How is the 82 yr old pitching coach working out for us? Suppose to have fixed Diaz issues with where he was landing his plant foot

Did Diaz forget what he was taught? My money would be on the 82 yr old forgetting
 
If only I could set a DVR to McNeil, Alonso...and ignor the rest unless deGrom is pitching and then really fun come the 6 or 7 inning when MC is trying to pull him from a good game with a small lead...
Oh man- last night to a tee
 
Diaz was the best available closer when they went after him. We know and have beaten the dead horse to dust on what else came with Diaz and what they gave up.

Bur railing about the trade based on Diaz' performance for the Mets is 20/20 hindsight. Could any of the experts predicted he would have been this bad?

Ironically, Cano has been producing at the plate lately.
I said it at the time that it was an unnecessary trade because they already had a second baseman in Jeff McNeil who everyone except the Mets brass thought was going to be at the least a good starting second baseman. Turns out that hes an All Star who can legitimately hit. Because of this they have too many infielders and no outfielders. If the Mets only had this short of a leash with Conforto and Matz and maybe one or 2 more young players who keeps teasing Mets fans with flashes of brilliance but revert to their 0-4, 3 K days... or giving up 10 runs in the first.

As far as Diaz, there were relievers out there who were available. Like in past years, they spent the money on the wrong players. Unlike past years, they had a GM who was hellbent in giving most of his former clients sweet deals that will bite the Mets in whatever ass they have left.

And for those of you who are complaining about us even mentioning the words Kelenic and Dunn, it wouldve been nice to see the Mets have their own Acuna, Albies, Hoskins, Vlad Jr, Bryant, Rizzo, Betts, Correra, Altuve, Sanchez, Judge, Andujar, Urshela, etc etc etc.
They were supposed to in Conforto. And Rosario. Remember Rosario was considered a top 3 overall prospect when he was coming up. Somehow they never seem to develop with the Mets. Alonso of course looks good but then Conforto looked like he could become a superstar early on.
 
It’s truly is amazing. Traded two top prospects for an old lazy entitled cancer and a reliever who sucks and is having a nervous breakdown before our eyes.

Can’t someone persuade Cano to take PEDs again and get the Mets out of part of this mess?
He would need to find whoever used to help Yankee players mask the Roids like they did back in the day!!!
 
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!! With the HR.
Yeah, that was an unintended consequence for sure. I mean, back when the Mets fancied themselves divisional contenders, there is no way they would have traded Bruce or Swarzak to fellow divisional contenders. Who knew that Seattle would flip them. The ingrates!

Fortunately, the Mets have long fallen out of contention, thus rendering the point moot.
 
Can the pitchers get a bunt down? Wheeler twice the other day and Noah tonight.
 
Yeah, that was an unintended consequence for sure. I mean, back when the Mets fancied themselves divisional contenders, there is no way they would have traded Bruce or Swarzak to fellow divisional contenders. Who knew that Seattle would flip them. The ingrates!

Fortunately, the Mets have long fallen out of contention, thus rendering the point moot.
Seattle flipping Bruce is the nasty backwash of the trade to Seattle. The gift that keeps giving.
 
Cano 0-4, 6 LOB. Should be fired yesterday for this daggerous stupidity alone
 

Wonder where we compare in blown saves to last year? And who were the ones saying that a top Closer isn't that important?

Also noticed with Cano...at the beginning of the year when he was at least doing halfway ok(but still sucked lol) he seemed to engage well with the young kids on the team and seemed closer to a mentor than a cancer. Ever since he started to really suck, he gives no extra effort on the field and you rarely see him supporting his teammates like he used to.

I was thinking about the "Cano"/Diaz trade earlier. Seems easy to blame it on BVW...but the more I think about it, it goes back to before BVW was ever here and falls squarely on JW. Yes, we did need a closer. Diaz had a great year but he was a cheaper option than Kimbril. Wilpon call there...With Cano - he plays 2B/1B...and who were the players that got no love from Met brass all of last year and the off season. MCNeil- Alonso- Smith...In Wilpon's mind(pre BVW) we needed a closer(cheap) and a 1B and 2B. In the same swoop, let's dump salary as in Bruce. Swarzak just happened to be a part of the whole mess.
I don't think there could be much to do about Lowrey. I actually felt he could be a good player for us. We may have just over paid him. Don't remember but had LeMatheau already signed with the Yankees? And how the flaming Fvk did we not get a Cf'r???

And what the hell is wrong with Thor? Something is so far off with him? Lost his control and no longer has his kill pitch.
 
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Wonder where we compare in blown saves to last year? And who were the ones saying that a top Closer isn't that important?

Also noticed with Cano...at the beginning of the year when he was at least doing halfway ok(but still sucked lol) he seemed to engage well with the young kids on the team and seemed closer to a mentor than a cancer. Ever since he started to really suck, he gives no extra effort on the field and you rarely see him supporting his teammates like he used to.

I was thinking about the "Cano"/Diaz trade earlier. Seems easy to blame it on BVW...but the more I think about it, it goes back to before BVW was ever here and falls squarely on JW. Yes, we did need a closer. Diaz had a great year but he was a cheaper option than Kimbril. Wilpon call there...With Cano - he plays 2B/1B...and who were the players that got no love from Met brass all of last year and the off season. MCNeil- Alonso- Smith...In Wilpon's mind(pre BVW) we needed a closer(cheap) and a 1B and 2B. In the same swoop, let's dump salary as in Bruce. Swarzak just happened to be a part of the whole mess.
I don't think there could be much to do about Lowrey. I actually felt he could be a good player for us. We may have just over paid him. Don't remember but had LeMatheau already signed with the Yankees? And how the flaming Fvk did we not get a Cf'r???

And what the hell is wrong with Thor? Something is so far off with him? Lost his control and no longer has his kill pitch.

The Cano contract is going to be an albatross to any team that has him. There was no reason on this planet that you needed to take that on. Combine that with the Cespedes deal and you have close to 50 million invested in 2 players. That's insane when you need to spend money on a bullpen. You could have overpaid for both Britton and Ottavino, kept your kids and been at least a .500 team. Now you have a huge chunk of dead weight money that is on the team for half a decade.

It was a bad deal from the beginning.
 
Last year was much better. 41 saves in 59 save opportunities. Only 18 blown saves.

The difference between this year and last year is the offense is much better. Last year we wasted a lot of quality starts with bad offense. This year we are scoring more runs and henceforth blowing more leads. Relief pitching is just as bad if not worse.
 
The Cano contract is going to be an albatross to any team that has him. There was no reason on this planet that you needed to take that on. Combine that with the Cespedes deal and you have close to 50 million invested in 2 players. That's insane when you need to spend money on a bullpen. You could have overpaid for both Britton and Ottavino, kept your kids and been at least a .500 team. Now you have a huge chunk of dead weight money that is on the team for half a decade.

It was a bad deal from the beginning.
This makes too much sense.
 
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This makes too much sense.
The Mets have to pick around the edges to upgrade their talent for now until they can redo their farm system. That's why a bullpen upgrade this offseason makes a lot of sense while they try to figure out who to keep and who to ship for young talent. It needs to be a fully committed rebuild at this point.
 
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