OT: Dwight Gooden arrested June 7 in Holmdel on cocaine possession

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  1. RUhasarrived

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    Some people may genetically predisposed toward certain substances.No amount of pleading,incarceration,etc. will ever work.
     
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    sad
     
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    Maybe he was holding it for someone else?

     
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    Great song.
    As for Doc, once an 86 Met always an 86 Met. :)
     
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    That sucks
     
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    I thought this was a headline from the 80s
     
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    Straw has done a complete 180 . Dwight stuck in the mud. When you saw them together during the documentary from a few years ago it was obvious they were on two different paths. I love Doc. He is a sweet man who captured my generation before social media. Its getting to be twilight time in his recovery.:pray:
     
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    Damnit....
    I tell you this, Doc is a sweetheart of a man, a nicer guy doesn’t exist.
    His character defects will not allow him to fend off his demons, in his case cocaine is the devil.
     
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    How did the police find what I've read described as "several small packets that contained cocaine" ?
     
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    probable cause or the simple asked Gooden if they can search and he said yes
     
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    Tough to hear. Last I read, he had turned things around and I hoped it would stick.
     
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    They should have taken him home and it never happened.
    I guess the cops can’t do that anymore.
     
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    I wish there was a hug emoji offered by Rivals.
     
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    Never consent - never talk to the police without a lawyer present.
     
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    Agree. I mean was it like a pound or just personal use? These details should come into play. Especially in today's world of legal Pot despite Fed laws. Sad for him.
     
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    Dwight has lived in Piscataway for a couple years now. He's been seen around town and word is that he doesn't look good. Sad.
     
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    I wish him well in his fight against addiction, but can't feel sorry for him.
    But will be pleased if I hear he's trying to stay clean again.
    Hopefully no jail time for Doc, but inpatient treatment might be in order with aftercare involved to ease him back to staying clean on his own.
     
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    It’s not hard .
     
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    Guy has been coked up for 35 years. Probably not going to stop at this point.
     
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    Never that hard when you pull over someone like this.
    Probable cause doesn’t mean a thing either. If they find nothing, they just say he was acting suspicious and no harm no foul. They do find something and they say a bag fell out the door or could be seen from the window.
    Bottom line- he needs a lot of help and it is such a shame. Amazing that it wasn’t even the lights of NYC that did this to him but returning home did..,
     
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    If drug use wasn't so seriously criminalized, would be even better if cops could be empowered to take folks like this to a treatment center.
     
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    First thought I had. Too bad they couldn’t give him a chance to ask for rehab (or maybe they did).
     
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    I will leave the name(s) of the town out of it but that kind of thing did used to happen when I was a little kid.
     
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    It’s all liability at this point. The police can’t let him go.

    Hopefully when he’s sentenced for possession and DUI he’ll get mandatory inpatient.
     
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    Yep, I've been told that by several people in the know.
     
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    Operating a motor vehicle is consent.
     
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    That makes no sense.
     
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    Read up on DUI laws. By operating a motor vehicle, you’ve consented to drug and alcohol tests. I’m not anything close to a legal expert, and I’m sure his lawyers will fight the probable cause...but it’s a bit of a Hail Mary to beat those things.
     
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    This isn't true. You haven't automatically consented to drug and alcohol testing by operating a motor vehicle. What is true is that if you refuse said testing, your driving privileges can be suspended. Totally not the same thing.
     
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    Just want to point out that if he was holding it for someone else, I have absolutely no idea who that someone else might be. None.
     
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    i'm amazed that just because this guy was a baseball legend so many of you would look the other way about his cocaine possession.
     
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    I would look the other way for anybody's cocaine possession. What business is it of mine?
     
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    Fair enough.

    Don’t consent, and you’ll almost certainly be found guilty of the thing you were trying to avoid by not giving consent. Either way, you’ll be arrested (though not mirandized) and then the pat down will turn up the other thing you were hiding.

    If you’re arrested on DUI suspicion - is a warrant still required to search the glove box/trunk?
     
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    Not if a search dog is involved.
     
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    And you certainly haven't consented to a search.

    If they say they are getting the (LOL) "Drug Dog" start your stop watch. There is a time limit on how long you can be detained waiting for the dog. Too long of a wait and you have a case for your rights being violated.
     
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    How does the search work if you’re actually guilty or suspected or DUI?

    Recall the legislature was going to do something to expand drug testing during DUI stops, I think previously you had to do it, given the metabolic rate of drugs in the system, but then they needed a warrant to obtain the results.
     
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    I wouldn’t bust anyone with a small amount of personal use drugs on them.
    If all their credentials were in order and their license check was clean...if they weren’t drunk I’d let them slide.
    That’s just me, as e5fdny alluded to, it happened on the regular back in the day.
     

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