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OT: Game of Thrones - Final Season Thread (spoilers)

These writers are hard to read.. cannot give them too much credit.. but.. wasn't that White Horse the one the leader of the Golden Company was riding?

In a general sense, perhaps it only means she's "good" now.. was broken out of her badass killer assassin mode. Maybe she and Gendry can set up house now in the Stormlands.

I didn't see it as a sendoff. I've been way off in the way I expected the storyline to go but still think she'll play a role in what happens Sunday. If not, it's a crappy to end her role in the show.
 
Did anyone else pick up on Varys trying to have a kitchen girl poison Dany? Problem was Dany wouldn't eat.
Good pick-up! Varys was going full tilt trying to off Dany. That certainly will contribute to Dany's view that all she has left is fear.
 
Can we get a recommended reading list?
My wife got me the books for my birthday. Going to start after the series ends.

Obviously read books 1-5 but what about all the side information and ancillary writings?
Read before or after the main books?
Just me, but I'd go with the five Song of Ice and Fire books. Then do Fire and Blood. Then the Hedge Knight (which can be bought as one combined book or as three short novellas. I enjoyed the first two, the conclusion not so much). And as someday said, with any luck he will have finally gotten around to finishing the sixth book by the time you're done. Although I'm not counting on it.
As for those arguing foreshadowing vs. sloppy writing, they're not mutually-exclusive. On multiple occasions GRRM had her talk about roasting people alive or burning down cities. But when the books ended she's still walking around barefoot and hadn't even made it back to Mereen yet. The showrunners seeded it too, but never really got the boulders rolling downhill or accelerated to process until the past few shows. They wasted years of opportunity for character development (in the book she's a far more cunning tactician, much more assertive in taking who she wants sexually and how, etc etc). Then in a 6-episode season, decided to start the process on earnest. So it can both have been seeded (which it clearly, factually was) and you still feel the showrunners did a poor-to-middling job (which is subjective).
 
Varys was RIGHT!!!!

They should have listen to him.

Also Sansa was RIGHT, actually she been right most of the time, but everyone keeps dismissing her. They still think of her as the little bird. She is a damn wolf!
She will probably end of Queen of the North or even on the Iron Throne!
 
If Sam writing the books theory holds, then Jon or anyone but Dany would be the one on the throne.

As they say, history is written by the victors. If Dany was queen we wouldnt be reading/"seeing" her in such a poor light attacking king's landing. It would be twisted somehow into killing extreme Cersei loyalists. One way or another it would be written as if they deserved it.

That is, unless Sam was ok risking his life and potentially being burned alive for the sake of the truth.

Now that I think about it, we really do only read good things about Jon. Everyone has flaws, Jon doesn't seem to. Maybe he does land on the throne and Sam writes it.
I agree history is written by the victors, but I really hope they don't do the Sam writing a book thing. Not many people read back then and history is recorded by the meastors anyway so what would be the point. Also, a big part of the books and show is that history is often passed down through songs to the common folk, not Sam's thing. Bran knows everything so why doesn't he write the book.
 
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Sorry to interrupt.

What'd you think about Cersei's demise? Very disappointed, disappointed, or eh so what?

Should have been killed in a much more interesting way. Jamie, Sansa, Dragon fire, jail. Seemed like a dumb end to her.
 
Dany continues to go crazy, Jon whacks her. Drogon goes dragon and f's more stuff up. Jon says no to the throne and retakes the black after learning the WW threat is still around (not directly, but proof that they are not gone for good).

No idea who ends up King/Queen. Sansa? Or perhaps the 7 regions go back to ruling themselves.

Confidence - pretty low. :)

I think Dany gets killed for the destruction of the city. Jon may take the throne out of a sense of duty. Gendry might get picked if Jon says no. Maybe Tyrion does something awesome like killing Dany and they select him after Jon says no.
 
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I don't see the need but they could open the episode with Jamie and Cersie all mangled in a pile of rubble and have Jamie fulfill the Valonquar prophecy before he dies.

They have to address the Tyrion betrayal (letting Jamie go) and Sansa needs to have a big role in the episode. Jon has no choice but to kill Danny. Bran also needs to have a purpose. Arya got her send off in this last episode, but I have no idea what the white horse represented.

Who knows what happens to the dorthraki, unsullied, and drogon. They all may just go home to Essos. Bron and Sam will survive and do what they do. Perhaps Robin of the vail shows up and maybe that surviving Tulley or even Mirra Reed. They'll be gathered for a council to decide how to move forward. They should let the three-eyed raven be king, because he has the most wisdom.

In a well written episode yeah. I don't have high hopes.
 
She and Coster-Waldau were great throughout. So many outstanding actors including Glenn, Clarke, Bean, and Dinklage but those two may have shined just a touch more.

With all the younger actors where GOT was their first job you wonder where they go from here. Hard to top it.

Dinklage was so good in this especially when it was better written I didn't even see him as a dwarf - just an actor. Very very good actor.
 
These writers are hard to read.. cannot give them too much credit.. but.. wasn't that White Horse the one the leader of the Golden Company was riding?

In a general sense, perhaps it only means she's "good" now.. was broken out of her badass killer assassin mode. Maybe she and Gendry can set up house now in the Stormlands. Maybe she's pregnant.. maybe that's why she was looking at mother and child on the way in and tried t save them (getting them killed).

I think it will be hard to wrap things up unless they have a big time lapse. That is.. There is no High Septon, no Sept of Bailor, no Throne Room or Iron Throne (unless Drogon was highly selective and Dany an engineer).. how can she or anyone else be crowned and sit that throne?

But it has to happen, right? It is A Game of Thrones... and in A Song of Ice and Fire.. they already got the Ice and Fire done.

So.. if we assume some amount of time passing at some point, to allow a coronation, they can do just about anything.
What else rides a Pale Horse?
 
Yes the leader of the GC had a white horse. As did Jamie. Jamie always used a white horse. A guy known as "the kingslayer" for killing the mad king

there been a lot of white horses on the show. I think it was just a cool visual and nothing more.
 
People who are dumb enough to name their kid Daenery’s deserve what they get

I hope that also got a normal middle name and they can just go by that.

Or their parents were not smart enough to think of it.

Or they can just change their name to Rainbow Moonrock

or something
 
I hope that also got a normal middle name and they can just go by that.

Or their parents were not smart enough to think of it.

Or they can just change their name to Rainbow Moonrock

or something
Most chicks end up crazy anyway so it’s kinda fitting
 
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Maybe Bran is the real villain and he keeps going back in time to make more Night King via Children of forest.
I'm stilling trying to figure out the purpose of Bran. He lured the NK to the tree thingy with his crows and that's about it. I mean did we really need him to tell of us, "O Jon I know your true identity as well, however Sam told you first, but I knew before him". Kid just sits in a wheel chair staring into space every episode. Have him warg into a friggin bear and rip someone's throat out for pete's sake. A great power totally wasted.
 
Last year, 560 female babies were named Khaleesi, making it the 549th most popular name for girls in the US.

There were also 20 baby girls named Khalessi, 15 named Khaleesia, 10 named Khalesi, five named Khaleesie, and five named Khalessy.

People also name their daughters after her using her actual name, like the 163 female babies named Daenerys. There were also eight baby girls named Daenarys and seven named Danerys.

SOURCE:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/what-moms-of-babies-named-khaleesi-think
 
I didn't see it as a sendoff. I've been way off in the way I expected the storyline to go but still think she'll play a role in what happens Sunday. If not, it's a crappy to end her role in the show.
Well.. if the Targaryens are out because Dany is mad and Jon doesn't want it.. then its Gendry.. right? With Arya at his side.
 
Well.. if the Targaryens are out because Dany is mad and Jon doesn't want it.. then its Gendry.. right? With Arya at his side.

I would imagine Sansa would be next in line to actually want it. We have no idea what the other cities think.

The smartest person here seems to be Tormund. Hes like "f u guys and youre politics and royalty, were gonna live freely up north."
 
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there been a lot of white horses on the show. I think it was just a cool visual and nothing more.
The little girl and mother that Ayra tried saving, the little girl was carrying a white horse. When she looks back at them the horse is now charred black then she sees the white horse. One theory I read said she has now moved on from killing one Queen to putting another Queen on her list. As we all know death rides a white horse.

I still think Jon kills Dany, Drogon tries to burn Jon revealing to everyone he's the true heir. It has to be a spectacular moment for all the masses to see leaving no doubt he's a Targaryen. Can't have a bunch of people yelling but Jon's the true heir only a few people know it at this point. I think he doesn't want it goes North. From there I'm not sure who or if anyone sits on the throne.
 
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I still think no one ends up on the throne, the whole thing is thrown out and the 7 kingdoms become independent.
 
The little girl and mother that Ayra tried saving, the little girl was carrying a white horse. When she looks back at them the horse is now charred black then she sees the white horse. One theory I read said she has now moved on from killing one Queen to putting another Queen on her list. As we all know death rides a white horse.

I still think Jon kills Dany, Drogon tries to burn Jon revealing to everyone he's the true heir. It has to be a spectacular moment for all the masses to see leaving no doubt he's a Targaryen. Can't have a bunch of people yelling but Jon's the true heir only a few people know it at this point.

They are not fireproof in the books. Not sure about the TV show.
 
The little girl and mother that Ayra tried saving, the little girl was carrying a white horse. When she looks back at them the horse is now charred black then she sees the white horse. One theory I read said she has now moved on from killing one Queen to putting another Queen on her list. As we all know death rides a white horse.

I still think Jon kills Dany, Drogon tries to burn Jon revealing to everyone he's the true heir. It has to be a spectacular moment for all the masses to see leaving no doubt he's a Targaryen. Can't have a bunch of people yelling but Jon's the true heir only a few people know it at this point.

Yes but why would whether or not he's a Targaryen matter at all at this point? That whole schtick was created by Dany to claim she was the rightful heir.

AFAIK no one cares if their next king is a Targ. They just want a "good" leader. I'd imagine between the mad king and the mad queen being a Targ would work against you.

If Jon was a modern politician running for office, his campaign team would ban the T word and dodge it at every chance they get. They would emphasize his heroics in battle and fighting off the WWs.

Regardless, I could see what you said happening.
 
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Yes but why would whether or not he's a Targaryen matter at all at this point? That whole schtick was created by Dany to claim she was the rightful heir.

AFAIK no one cares if their next king is a Targ. They just want a "good" leader. I'd imagine between the mad king and the mad queen being a Targ would work against you.

Regardless, I could see what you said happening.

Well.. until Robert Baratheon.. the Iron Throne was ALWAYS occupied by a Targaryen. They built Kings Landing and the Red Keep.. and the Iron Throne. So, I'd think there should have been some acceptance of the status quo.. until Robert Baratheon manufactured a civil war on a lie... at the perfect time with a mad king as ruler.

I think the Targaryens have a legitimate claim.. but now? Not so much. Jon at least is not a product of 1st generation incest. I would think Rhaegar might have a bit more of that in him, his father being the Mad King and his mother being a Targaryen... but at least his mother was a Stark. Dany proved herself unfit.. though at a minimum she still had Drogon as an ally... with a seemingly infinite ability to breathe fire and fly.
 
They are not fireproof in the books. Not sure about the TV show.
My mistake then. But she didn't burn when she was hatching her dragons. I guess that was just a one time event and her nonburning super power only worked once. Then my theory is shot. Unless Jon has a one time get out of burning card as well.
 
I'm stilling trying to figure out the purpose of Bran. He lured the NK to the tree thingy with his crows and that's about it. I mean did we really need him to tell of us, "O Jon I know your true identity as well, however Sam told you first, but I knew before him". Kid just sits in a wheel chair staring into space every episode. Have him warg into a friggin bear and rip someone's throat out for pete's sake. A great power totally wasted.

He gave purpose to Hodoor? After destroying his life
 
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Along with someone earlier in the thread, I'm wondering where Bronn fits in. 2 of his 3 meal tickets are gone. He has a vested interest in keeping Tyrion alive.
 
He gave purpose to Hodor? After destroying his life
Well.. what about the guy grown into that tree.. he was the 3-eyed raven... what was his purpose? Bran may have to disappear into something like that.. but he invested some time toward his mobility with that chair.. If Sam is writing this history.. then he probably has access to Bran. Perhaps they are both in old Town at the Citadel.
 
My mistake then. But she didn't burn when she was hatching her dragons. I guess that was just a one time event and her nonburning super power only worked once. Then my theory is shot. Unless Jon has a one time get out of burning card as well.

For whatever reason, Dany's been unburnable throughout. Jon on the other hand, got burnt badly fighting the wright at Castle Black when he saved the Lord Commander.
 
He gave purpose to Hodoor? After destroying his life
Should have warged into a bear and ripped people's throats out during one of these battles. Now that would have been cool. It's exactly what I thought they would do with his newfound power. Instead he just stared into space episode after episode as I waited for him to do something cool with his power.
 
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Should have warged into a bear and ripped people's throats out during one of these battles. Now that would have been cool. It's exactly what I thought they would do with his newfound power. Instead he just stared into space episode after episode as I waited for him to do something cool with his power.

I'm pretty sure he likes to watch.

It all started with him peeping at cersei/jamie.

The dude is watching people have sex, past and present. If he lived in our time and space, we would consider his problem a porn addiction.
 
I'm stilling trying to figure out the purpose of Bran. He lured the NK to the tree thingy with his crows and that's about it. I mean did we really need him to tell of us, "O Jon I know your true identity as well, however Sam told you first, but I knew before him". Kid just sits in a wheel chair staring into space every episode. Have him warg into a friggin bear and rip someone's throat out for pete's sake. A great power totally wasted.

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Last year, 560 female babies were named Khaleesi, making it the 549th most popular name for girls in the US.

There were also 20 baby girls named Khalessi, 15 named Khaleesia, 10 named Khalesi, five named Khaleesie, and five named Khalessy.

People also name their daughters after her using her actual name, like the 163 female babies named Daenerys. There were also eight baby girls named Daenarys and seven named Danerys.

SOURCE:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/what-moms-of-babies-named-khaleesi-think

Let's be honest. Those alternative spellings are just misspellings. LOL
 
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