OT: New York Mets 2023-2024 Off Season Thread
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I just don't care that much who the manager is. Just get good players.
Counsell is reportedly going to the Cubs, which if true came out of nowhere.
Counsell to become Cubs manager (source)
In a surprising turn of events, former Brewers skipper Craig Counsell will become the new manager of the Cubs, a source told MLB.com's Mark Feinsand on Monday. The club has not confirmed the news. Counsell, 53, managed for parts of nine seasons in Milwaukee, posting a 707-625 record to become
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Is it really a bad thing? For every strong outing, there is a stinker. I don't think I can take another slider that starts out of the strike zone and ends up 4 feet off the plate. Plus, he up there is age.
Just one more arm we need to sign. You knew what you were getting from Ottavino and goal was to push him down a bit. Not great but also not terrible.
If Ottavino just became a piece of the bullpen and not relied on to be the closer or setup guy, I would have been ok with him staying.
I like that Cohen didn’t get into a bidding war over a manager. Why would you?
Yeah not like the guy has countless rings on his mantle (unlike Bochy).
Joe Torre has a bunch of rings on his fingers, except from when he coached four other teams and suddenly was a bad to mediocre manager.
It’s the roster that matters.
Hopefully in a couple of years, you'll be complaining he was the one that got away. 😎
Mets 40 Man roster is now at 33:
GUARANTEED CONTRACTS (9)
Diaz
Lindor
Marte
McNeil
Narvaez
Nimmo
Quintana
Raley
Senga
ARBITRATION ELIGIBLE (12)
Alonso
Bickford
Brigham
Coonrod
Gott
Guillorme
Lucchesi
Peterson
Reid-Foley
Smith
Stewart
Vogelbach
PRE-ARBITRATION (12)
Acuna
Alvarez
Baty
Butto
Garrett
Hartwig
Mauricio
Megill
Murfee
Short
Vientos
Walker
The two upcoming key dates are:
NOVEMBER 14 - Deadline to make tender offers to arbitration players. No doubt some of the 12 will not receive offers.
NOVEMBER 17 - Deadline to add rookies to the 40 man to protect them from the Rule 5 draft. Will be interesting to see who is protected and who is exposed.
Cot's Contracts did an interesting analysis of the Mets roster. They assumed that the 9 contract guys and the 12 ARB guys would all be back. They added in 5 minimum salary guys for a hypothetical opening day roster. Then they added in a shit-ton of dead money, and came up with a hypothetical opening day salary total of $242 M. That is before adding one dollar of additional salary in free agents and trades.
At $242M, the Mets would have been already over the 2023 luxury tax threshold.
How much is Uncle Steve willing to spend?
GUARANTEED CONTRACTS (9)
Diaz
Lindor
Marte
McNeil
Narvaez
Nimmo
Quintana
Raley
Senga
ARBITRATION ELIGIBLE (12)
Alonso
Bickford
Brigham
Coonrod
Gott
Guillorme
Lucchesi
Peterson
Reid-Foley
Smith
Stewart
Vogelbach
PRE-ARBITRATION (12)
Acuna
Alvarez
Baty
Butto
Garrett
Hartwig
Mauricio
Megill
Murfee
Short
Vientos
Walker
The two upcoming key dates are:
NOVEMBER 14 - Deadline to make tender offers to arbitration players. No doubt some of the 12 will not receive offers.
NOVEMBER 17 - Deadline to add rookies to the 40 man to protect them from the Rule 5 draft. Will be interesting to see who is protected and who is exposed.
Cot's Contracts did an interesting analysis of the Mets roster. They assumed that the 9 contract guys and the 12 ARB guys would all be back. They added in 5 minimum salary guys for a hypothetical opening day roster. Then they added in a shit-ton of dead money, and came up with a hypothetical opening day salary total of $242 M. That is before adding one dollar of additional salary in free agents and trades.
At $242M, the Mets would have been already over the 2023 luxury tax threshold.
How much is Uncle Steve willing to spend?
JV my as$. Eat lead suckers. The reason MLB owners have a hard-on for Uncle Stevie.
https://nypost.com/2023/11/07/metro/mets-owner-steve-cohens-casino-plan-in-new-metropolitan-park/
https://nypost.com/2023/11/07/metro/mets-owner-steve-cohens-casino-plan-in-new-metropolitan-park/
Mets owner planning $8b upgrades to the stadium. What a waste of money.
He should donate it to feed the country’s hungry.
He should donate it to feed the country’s hungry.
Tonight the Silver Slugger awards are announced. Mets nominees are Lindor and Alonso. I think Lindor deserves selection. I doubt Alonso will be selected over Olson and Freeman though.
Bob Nightingale of USA Today is reporting that Yamamoto is the Mets #1 target. He says that the Mets are resigned to the fact that they have no realistic chance of landing Ohtani.
I would much rather get Yamamoto- While we all have to respect SO- he will not be pitching this year and he is 100% a DH...
I would rather spend 200 mil on a starting pitcher and have the other 300 mil to fill in the holes we need to fill.
Curious from some of you- What are the thoughts after 2023 on the kids we brought up-
Alvarez is obviously our starting Catcher in 2024 and beyond.
Baty/Vientos ??????? Give them 2024 and almost be relying on them or dangle them in a trade?
Mauricio - what is he?
Granted SO is a special player. I would not spend the amount to get him for a pitcher coming off Tommy John plus having to miss a year and a DH.
Agree completely- the guy is amazing...and if it was a Judge type contract, maybe. But 500+ mil - OH HELL NO
The "no realistic chance" is based on the assumption that he won't leave the West Coast which then was followed by articles that he's intrigued with Boston, Atlanta, and Chicago, as well as another that the Mets will be leading contenders in going after both him and Yamomoto due to Cohen having the deepest pockets. All BS reporting as always until things actually start rolling. Bottom line will be the money combined with where he feels he fits... every single team in the majors would like him on their roster, he's a GOAT level two-way player in his prime with unmatched international marketing star-power.
