Alvarez, Mauricio, Baty, Vientos, Crow-Armstrong. That's a pretty good future nucleus. Somebody knew what they were doing bringing on all those guys. Wonder how many come up with the Mets though.Mets made first cuts today, dropping 22. Camp roster is now 53. The only cut that I found mildly surprising was Trevor Hildenberger, who I thought had a shot at making the team. The tougher cuts are of course still to come.
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100% agree. I do take some troll shots at mets fans. Truth is I don't hate the Mets. I actually follow them pretty closely along with the yanks.
I always thought the Mets under the wilpons would always sell the future to Mets fans who just bought it up. Drove me crazy.
As for Cohen, as someone that works in the same business I am not a fan of his. Think he is a really bad guy and sad people like him get rewarded with owning a franchise. But so be it. Good luck Mets fans. Your in a tough division and you will also have to get through a few tough teams out west. Maybe we will see ea h other in October.
Getting back to baseball, Maurico had a nice game yesterday. Got the game winning hit and made a nice play in the field to end the game. He looks about 1 year away. If Lindor resigns, do you put the kid at 3rd or 2nd?
If for some reason Lindor suddenly resigns, we would have an immediate need for a SS.
If however he re-signs, which is entirely different, then 3B. 😉
Calm down Hillary. Still don't know who you root for. I asked a legit question.
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So far, into the spring, I am super happy with what I am seeing...Slow starts for Conforto/Smith/McNeil/Lindor but not so worried about them. Alonso is looking very good as is Nimmo.
Pitching...deGrom is unreal- 1 hit, 1 walk in 5 innings and 10k. Stoman is also pitching well. Diaz looking dominate. Familia is still having control problems and I never have understood how GSell has stayed on this team for so long...defense is a problem but I am so excited to have 2021 happen!
Pitching...deGrom is unreal- 1 hit, 1 walk in 5 innings and 10k. Stoman is also pitching well. Diaz looking dominate. Familia is still having control problems and I never have understood how GSell has stayed on this team for so long...defense is a problem but I am so excited to have 2021 happen!
AROD and JLO split up. That would have been a disaster if they won the bid somehow.
MLB pipeline announced its Mets Top 30 prospects for 2021. No real surprises. The top eight are (or at least were) all in major league camp, but they're all at least a year or two away.
There's talent in the system, but most of the MLB-ready talent is gone. Don't thank me, thank Brodie. It would be VERY surprising if any rookie made the opening day roster. It would NOT be surprising if we don't see any rookies before midseason or later. Maybe a relief pitcher? My guess is that the first rookie we'll see this year is McWilliams at #16.
One guy who's stock has really dropped is Kilome. He's down to #22. When he was acquired from Philly, there were high hopes for him.
There's talent in the system, but most of the MLB-ready talent is gone. Don't thank me, thank Brodie. It would be VERY surprising if any rookie made the opening day roster. It would NOT be surprising if we don't see any rookies before midseason or later. Maybe a relief pitcher? My guess is that the first rookie we'll see this year is McWilliams at #16.
One guy who's stock has really dropped is Kilome. He's down to #22. When he was acquired from Philly, there were high hopes for him.
On the subject of prospects, I took a look at the Mets Top 30 Prospects of 2017 - four years ago. Ideally these are the guys who'd be forming the young core of your current roster. With the Mets, not so much. Here is my analysis. The numbers represent the player's 2017 ranking:
CURRENTLY WITH METS - 4
#1 David Peterson
#7 Pete Alonso
#9 Tomas Nido
#11 Luis Guillorme
CURRENTLY IN METS MINORS - STILL TOP 30 PROSPECTS - 4
#4 Thomas Szapucki (now #10)
#10 Mark Vientos (now #8)
#19 Ronny Mauricio (now #2)
#26 Adrian Hernandez (now #30)
CURRENTLY IN METS MINORS - NO LONGER TOP 30 PROSPECTS - 8
#5 Desmond Lindsay
#17 Luis Carpio
#18 Gregory Guerrero
#22 Stephen Nogosek
#24 David Thompson
#25 Patrick Mazeika
#27 Corey Oswalt
#29 Quinn Brodey
CURRENTLY IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS - 8
#2 Justin Dunn
#3 Andres Gimenez
#13 Jordan Humphreys
#14 Chris Flexen
#16 Anthony Kay
#20 Ali Sanchez
#21 Jacob Rhame
#30 Gerson Bautista
CURRENTLY OUT OF MLB-AFFILIATED BASEBALL - 6
#6 Marcos Molina
#8 Gavin Cecchini
#12 Wuilmer Becerra
#15 Jhoan Urena
#23 PJ Conlon
#28 Jamie Callahan
Not very impressive. They did strike gold with Alonso. Also, Jeff McNeil was in the minors at the time, but never made the top prospects lists. Plus some good prospects were traded away. Still, you'd like your minor league yield to be higher than this. Hopefully over the next four years, it will be.
CURRENTLY WITH METS - 4
#1 David Peterson
#7 Pete Alonso
#9 Tomas Nido
#11 Luis Guillorme
CURRENTLY IN METS MINORS - STILL TOP 30 PROSPECTS - 4
#4 Thomas Szapucki (now #10)
#10 Mark Vientos (now #8)
#19 Ronny Mauricio (now #2)
#26 Adrian Hernandez (now #30)
CURRENTLY IN METS MINORS - NO LONGER TOP 30 PROSPECTS - 8
#5 Desmond Lindsay
#17 Luis Carpio
#18 Gregory Guerrero
#22 Stephen Nogosek
#24 David Thompson
#25 Patrick Mazeika
#27 Corey Oswalt
#29 Quinn Brodey
CURRENTLY IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS - 8
#2 Justin Dunn
#3 Andres Gimenez
#13 Jordan Humphreys
#14 Chris Flexen
#16 Anthony Kay
#20 Ali Sanchez
#21 Jacob Rhame
#30 Gerson Bautista
CURRENTLY OUT OF MLB-AFFILIATED BASEBALL - 6
#6 Marcos Molina
#8 Gavin Cecchini
#12 Wuilmer Becerra
#15 Jhoan Urena
#23 PJ Conlon
#28 Jamie Callahan
Not very impressive. They did strike gold with Alonso. Also, Jeff McNeil was in the minors at the time, but never made the top prospects lists. Plus some good prospects were traded away. Still, you'd like your minor league yield to be higher than this. Hopefully over the next four years, it will be.
I've always felt minor league systems are overrated. Most if not all teams don't bring up more than 1 or 2 players that play a role as a starter in any one season unless it's a total rebuild. Deep farms are mostly parleyed into trade bait.
Nice analysis. Seems like our initial draft decisions are just as much of an issue as our developmental process. Just goes to show what a crapshoot the draft is. Not just in baseball, but also hockey and increasingly basketball where the draft eligible players just keep getting younger. Would be interesting to see whether drafting college versus HS eligible players impacts the success of your draft over time. With baseball trimming their minor league organizations, you wonder if college becomes an even more important feeder system.
So ready for the season to start. 95 wins and 3rd CY for deGrom with his best season yet!
BTW- is anyone else hoping that Seattle continues to fu-k around with Kelenic so he has no interest in ever re-signing with them once he becomes a FA...
BTW- is anyone else hoping that Seattle continues to fu-k around with Kelenic so he has no interest in ever re-signing with them once he becomes a FA...
We ain't getting him back so hope Diaz just becomes super lights out and we win Mult WS's without him.
The Kid does look like he has every tool to be the next Trout/Betts and Sea wants to play games with the kid.
So glad we did not pull that with Alonso. That was one thing Brody got right.
He actually got three things right:
1) Not f-ing with Alonso as you state.
2) Extending deGrom below market.
3) Managing his draft capital to get Matthew Allan in the third round.
Probably some others which are not occurring to me now.
Naa that's probably it. Davis trade was solid. Still don't outweigh the negatives though. All because wittle Jeffy wanted to hire his golfin bud.
My crazy season predictions...Yes- based on being a fan and nothing else. lol
1) deGrom has his best year- sub 2 era but wins 18 and with a 14+k per 9- goes over 300k #3 for him
2) Pete goes yard - 50/130 for him and top 2 in MVP
3) Lindor has less power and is between 20-25 HR but bats .290 100+ Runs and true leader and we see defensive gems all season long
4) Nimmo makes the AS team but gets injured in 2nd half
5) Davis eventually gets beat out but Guillorme at 3B
6) Dom has another .300 25 HR type season
7) McNeil is over .310 but sort of a quiet .300 with less than 80 runs 80 RBI's but plays a solid 2B
8) McCann has a better year than Realmuto
9) Conforto solid with .285 30+/90 +
10) Stroman solid and pitches 190+ innings to a 3.30 era
11) Diaz 35+ saves sub 2 era
12) 95 wins
13) Kelenic is AL ROY with .290 25/90 20 SB and pisses off entire Met fanbase even though we are in the WS
1) deGrom has his best year- sub 2 era but wins 18 and with a 14+k per 9- goes over 300k #3 for him
2) Pete goes yard - 50/130 for him and top 2 in MVP
3) Lindor has less power and is between 20-25 HR but bats .290 100+ Runs and true leader and we see defensive gems all season long
4) Nimmo makes the AS team but gets injured in 2nd half
5) Davis eventually gets beat out but Guillorme at 3B
6) Dom has another .300 25 HR type season
7) McNeil is over .310 but sort of a quiet .300 with less than 80 runs 80 RBI's but plays a solid 2B
8) McCann has a better year than Realmuto
9) Conforto solid with .285 30+/90 +
10) Stroman solid and pitches 190+ innings to a 3.30 era
11) Diaz 35+ saves sub 2 era
12) 95 wins
13) Kelenic is AL ROY with .290 25/90 20 SB and pisses off entire Met fanbase even though we are in the WS
Figures. I guess its now DeGrom, Stro, Peterson, Lucchessi and GMan as the starters until Carlos and Lugo return.
No they both signed. 2 of 3 out of Luchessi, Peterson, and Yamamoto will make it. My guess is deGrom, Stroman, Walker, Luchessi, Yamamoto.
deGrom, Stroman, Luchessi, Walker, Peterson...unless they decide Peterson has options and do go with Yamamoto...but last year has to count for something with Peterson
Lot of speculation that Peterson will begin in the minors for purposes of workload management. In his entire career he has never pitched more than 128 innings in a season. May make sense to have him begin in AAA (which doesn't start until May 1), rather than have to shut him down in September.
6-2 3.44 era 1.2 whip Rookie
I am sure there is some crazy new analytics you are going to pull up to argue your point but good old baseball stats and eyeball test last year says he was pretty good. Certainly, above average.
given, it was a short season. But it was short for everyone else too.
workload strategy or not great performance this spring makes sense but finding fault for his performance last year...that doesn’t make much sense
My mind is on Rutgers basketball but the Mets SP rotation with Carrasco out for 2 months is going to be agita. Mets did not do enough with their SP on off-season and they cannot withstand an injury of this magnitude
I would have liked to have seen them pick up one more guy. Not Bauer but a Paxton or Odorizzi type guy. With that said- losing a number 2 hurts anyone. Mets did pick up Carrasco, Walker, Luchessi, Yamamoto and only lost Matz.
so, brought in 4 starters and lost 1...hard to do much more.
the hope I have is the offense is all we hope, deGrom/Stroman are at the top of their game, BP continues to pitch well and we are within 5 games at the break or better. Then, we get Noah and Carrasco back. (We may even get them back sooner) That would be like two monster mid season pickups.
I am still ok going in. Can’t lie though, this is a big injury.
I won't get into it for you but yes the underlying numbers suggest some big time regression. That's not to say he can't improve on that and won't get any better. He's a very good back end starter for now but he has some stuff to work on that's all. If he opens as the #4/5 I'd be more than happy but don't expect the same 3.44 ERA.
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