All Petersen has to do is induce more triple plays like the one the Mets completed yesterday and all this talk is moot.
OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread
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All this mumbo jumbo is trying to reinvent baseball. Just use bb/k to innings pitched and the era. The radar gun is what scouts use and in a lot of cases body type.
I like to also include whip in there as well.
As for scouts- they are going to be wrong many more times than they are right...They also have to evaluate a ton of kids. Just like rivals football ratings- you have a better % of succeeding if the pitcher is 6ft3 or better and over 95 mph. They are only going to look at advanced stats is if a player passes the eye test first. And every once in a while you find a Guidry or Cone that break the mold.
Many years ago my HS coach, who played for the Detroit Tigers told us a story about a scout who was looking at a hitter. The pitcher K'd 19 kids and pitched a 1 hitter. The scout signed the kid that got the hit. Also he said they look for pitchers from cold weather states because they feel there's less wear on the arm and hitters from warm weather states since they hit year round. Of course, this was before all these indoor arenas. They also look at the parents body type to see if the kid can grow more.
It is funny- while we know that old time scouts used to go to these games and practices and do all you say - and their eyes could see bat speed and just how a kid carried himself and looked like a major leaguer. A scouts eyes never left the field of play. Now, I picture them at a stadium and their eyes are more on a tablet than a player. I kind of think it may hurt some "hidden gems" that may not be the star of the team but an old timer may have been able to pick out the moment a kid stepped into position. And then started to watch...That kid may never make it to a current scout's report going in so he may never get noticed.
just saw an article this morning that MLB may start monitoring pitcher spin rates to see who may all of a sudden have a drastic change as a way to see who may be doctoring the ball...Technology may end up biting these guys in the ass.
More than just spin rates. They're really trying to enforce doctoring the ball this year it seems. Passan had a bunch of tweets on it.
Yeah- saw that too. They also source T Bauer backin 2018 when he pretty much called out Houston and Verlander/Cole on this
I don't want him saving anything for October. I want him using it in April through September, and I'll worry about October when the time comes. Otherwise he may be saving it for the golf course.
The basic assumption is they made the playoffs (with the October reference), so I'll stand by my comments. :)
Mets (and Yankees) both shutout today. I don't follow the Yanks so I wont comment. However, the Mets are looking like a .500 club. They better start going. #LGM
Are you going by their pre season record? You know, the record at this point means very little
So, at this point, deGrom, Stroman, Walker, Peterson, Luchessi or am I missing someone?
Last couple times I had him sadly. Was in the never-again bin until he joined the Metsies.
85 win team at best. Too many holes. SP; RP ; Manager; Defense; back up catcher to name a few
I agree that we are questionable at this point with SP- deGrom/Stroman are a good 1/2 but complete unknown after that until Carrasco/Noah are back in the mix.
RP- I am not sure I agree- Betances is trouble, as is Familia's control. But Diaz looks like 2018- May/Loup/Castro/ give us 4 very good guys in there- and a few others have been performing well too. When Lugo comes back- it is also like when we get our 2 starters back- it will be like 3 major trade pickups.
Defense- we all know is not going to be a great asset. We will have to get past that and hope late inning replacements can do their jobs. Back up catcher- Nido has grown on me a bit but unless we lose McCann for a long period- it is not going to be a difference maker. How many teams have a top notch BU catcher.
Manager- agree, he has a lot to prove but it seems they all get managed by the front office geeks anyway.
I can see us hovering in the plus 5 games area going into the break. But then see us make a huge 2nd have push. We should have the pitching boost and if all 3 come back strong- it may become the best staff in the league. But that is s big if. Worst case- we have a few studs but over all in the middle of the pack in pitching. Hitting- I think we are a leader in most categories again except for SB's.
My over/under is 92
I'm closer to your view than the pessimistic one above. This team will mash once the regular season lights come on. And watch out for Tijuan Walker as a solid #3
Imagine a 2nd half with a rotation of Jake, Stro, Walker, Noah and Carrasco. I would take my chances with that group against the Dodgers rotation or the Nats. Problem is there is no guarantee all will be healthy and able to pitch at the same time.
I know people keep saying the NL East is a beast, but I think it's not. Philly IMO got worse, and the Marlins overachieve last year. The flaws of Philly and the Marlins will be exposed over the course of a full season. Washington has the pitching, but can they stay healthy? It's an older staff that seems to be hurt more than healthy. That staff carries an average offense, and that's why they will be up and down throughout the season. When any of the top 3 pitchers are out, Washington will struggle to be competitive. Atlanta is the main threat to the Mets.
FYI: I read a preview of the division from Forbes Magazine, and they picked the Mets to finish 4th behind Atlanta, Washington, and Philly...WTF. They gave the usual run down for the Braves, but Washington was a bunch of what-ifs. The magazine never addressed how the starting pitching can't stay healthy, or the bullpen is among the worst in baseball, or the offense lacks any punch. In fact, they claimed Washington's offense is one of the better ones in the NL East. Philly's preview talked about the front-end of the rotation carrying the team. To me, Philly is a mirror image of Washington. The backend of the rotation is bad, the bullpen is one of the worst, and the offense is suspect. With the Mets, the preview focused on Thor and Carrasco's injuries exposing the Mets' thin depth at pitching. It went as far as to say Gsellman could be one for starters. That was the reason the Mets were picked to finish 4th. Did I miss something like neither Thor nor Carrasco are coming back this season? And Gsellman, really?
deGrom is an Ace amongst Ace's- Noah (when and if healthy) is an Ace/strong 2, Stroman is a 2, Carrasco is a 2, Walker is a 4 but could be a very strong 4. That is one hell of a rotation...but...the guys do have to come back healthy. I also look at the BP and if Lugo also comes back strong- we have at least 4/5 legit strong pieces there too.
Tommy Hunter has exercised an opt-out in his contract and is gone. His contract allowed him that option if the Mets did not add him to the 40 man roster by yesterday.
Mike Montgomery and Mallex Smith have similar opt-outs which must be exercised by 3/28 and 4/1 respectively.
Mike Montgomery and Mallex Smith have similar opt-outs which must be exercised by 3/28 and 4/1 respectively.
Lets get this forkin season underway! I can't wait. https://nypost.com/2021/03/25/why-the-mets-lineup-can-be-holy-crap-terrifying-sherman/
And reassigned Stephen Tarpley. Does that mean Blevins makes the team?
EDIT: Nope, Jerry didn't make it. He did state that he is not retiring, and will report to alternate site.
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Looks like the Opening Day roster is now set. The official roster is now at 31, but five (Syndergaard, Lugo, Carrasco, Martinez, and Drew Smith) will open on the IL.
Gsellman and Barnes make it. No non-roster invitees make it.
Of course it is possible that Mets could make a waiver claim on somebody else's late cut. We shall see.
Gsellman and Barnes make it. No non-roster invitees make it.
Of course it is possible that Mets could make a waiver claim on somebody else's late cut. We shall see.
This bullpen is going to hurt us. Not much depth or people to rely on with Lugo still out.
I think the Mets will look for replacements for Familia, Betances, and Gsellman. The Mets are not married to them. Also, Lugo is back by May. Even with the dead weight in the bullpen, it's better than Philly or Washington.
I don't know. I'm a little nervous that Lugo's injury is worse than they're saying. Yeah they're not married to them but there isn't much out there to replace them with. Shocked Shane Greene is still out there. Get him in.
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