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OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

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Have to sign Conforto, Thor, Stroman, and even degrom if 2/3 of the pitchers have standout seasons.
I would be shocked if they sign both Thor and Stroman. Surprised if they sign Conforto, but not shocked. I expect that they'll extend and buy out deGrom's opt out at some point, but not necessarily this year.
 
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I still think 12 years is crazy and the amount a little high even the 10 year offer is high until I saw this, and at a position as important as SS, maybe it's about right.
The largest contracts in Major League history are as follows:
  1. Mike Trout, Angels: 12 years, $426.5 million
  2. Mookie Betts, Dodgers: 12 years, $365 million
  3. Fernando Tatis Jr., Padres: 14 years, $340 million
  4. Bryce Harper, Nationals: 13 years, $330 million
  5. Giancarlo Stanton, Yankees (signed with Marlins): 13 years, $325 million
 
I still think 12 years is crazy and the amount a little high even the 10 year offer is high until I saw this, and at a position as important as SS, maybe it's about right.
The largest contracts in Major League history are as follows:
  1. Mike Trout, Angels: 12 years, $426.5 million
  2. Mookie Betts, Dodgers: 12 years, $365 million
  3. Fernando Tatis Jr., Padres: 14 years, $340 million
  4. Bryce Harper, Nationals: 13 years, $330 million
  5. Giancarlo Stanton, Yankees (signed with Marlins): 13 years, $325 million
I was watching SNY's "Baseball Night," and the talking heads made a good point. Lindor may not have a problem with the offer, but by refusing it, he is attempting to push the limits of bigger contracts for players as the owner continue to earn crazy money from future TV deals. Lindor is on the committee to rep the players. With the collective bargaining agreement set to expire at the end of the season, he is trying to establish a baseline for the players to push ahead of these record-making contracts. We all know the owners will scream poverty due to the pandemic, but in a few years, when this is all over, the owners will be right back to earning record income. Meanwhile, the players fall behind.
 
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I still think 12 years is crazy and the amount a little high even the 10 year offer is high until I saw this, and at a position as important as SS, maybe it's about right.
The largest contracts in Major League history are as follows:
  1. Mike Trout, Angels: 12 years, $426.5 million
  2. Mookie Betts, Dodgers: 12 years, $365 million
  3. Fernando Tatis Jr., Padres: 14 years, $340 million
  4. Bryce Harper, Nationals: 13 years, $330 million
  5. Giancarlo Stanton, Yankees (signed with Marlins): 13 years, $325 million

Machado's contract can't be too far behind these. It has been amazing to watch the Padres transition to a big spending team.
 
Wait....I thought Covid was over?
Why are some states dropping their Covid restrictions ?
Why in this thread? Take your $hit over to The Dead Zone, that thread could use the traffic, lmfao
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Nats have some Covid issues for our series. One positive player and some close contacts from the plane ride. They're going to have to make some roster moves so we'll see who ends up out.
 
Nats have some Covid issues for our series. One positive player and some close contacts from the plane ride. They're going to have to make some roster moves so we'll see who ends up out.
They will all be cleared the day after deGrom pitches...lol
 
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On Lindor, is it that difficult that before the trade was made to agree to an extension? I get the hedge that a signing would likely occur but why take the risk?
 
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On Lindor, is it that difficult that before the trade was made to agree to an extension? I get the hedge that a signing would likely occur but why take the risk?
Maybe he really doesn't want to play for Mets? Or in NYC? Some players are not comfortable with the city that never sleeps, so the only way he'll sign is his determined price tag and not a penny less.

Just guessing, this is supposed to be a slam dunk.
 
Nothing is ever a slam dunk with the Metsies. Dodgers can trade for Betts, sign with ease, and win a ring immediately - wouldn't it be nice if just once that would happen with our club.
 

But for now, the Mets appear primed to head into the season with Lindor under an expiring contract, much to the puzzlement of owner Steve Cohen and others.

It was Cohen who personally extended the Mets’ $325 million offer to Lindor over dinner last weekend in Florida, tacking it onto the shortstop’s 2021 salary for a total outlay of 11 years and $347.3 million, according to sources. The offer was a counter to Lindor’s $385 million request, which Mets officials considered a starting point from which he would ultimately come down. That did not happen. As of Wednesday evening, Lindor’s agent, David Meter, had made only one offer -- approximately $385 million over 12 years -- to the Mets.

The team’s original $325 million offer included deferred money that would have lowered the total value of the contract, but a source said Cohen removed that aspect while dining with Lindor. In doing so, Cohen made the $325 million offer worth more in present-day money than Fernando Tatis’ $340 million contract and Mookie Betts’ $365 million deal. Although the deal wouldn’t technically make Lindor the highest-paid shortstop in Major League history, for all intents and purposes, it would.

For that reason, sources described Cohen as upset and baffled as the hours ticked down to Lindor’s self-imposed deadline. He and other Mets officials expected Lindor to meet them at $325 million, after they made an offer earlier in spring of around $300 million. Although the Mets consider Lindor a perfect fit for them at shortstop both on and off the field, they believe $325 million already exceeds their internal projections of his future performance. As such, they do not intend to increase their offer, nor meet Lindor in the middle.
 
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Maybe he really doesn't want to play for Mets? Or in NYC? Some players are not comfortable with the city that never sleeps, so the only way he'll sign is his determined price tag and not a penny less.

Just guessing, this is supposed to be a slam dunk.
The pundits may have considered this a slam dunk, but there's no evidence that the Mets ever did. The Mets have said all along that the trade was made to win in 2021, period. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

At least that's what they've said publicly. What they believe privately, who knows.
 
Great signing for the Mets.

I’d say sign Conforto but Boras is his agent and he don’t do extensions. Plus Boras usually tries his damdest to screw the Mets any way he can. So I’m not as hopeful for that.
 
Great signing for the Mets.

I’d say sign Conforto but Boras is his agent and he don’t do extensions. Plus Boras usually tries his damdest to screw the Mets any way he can. So I’m not as hopeful for that.

Boras is a very smart man, he will not go out of his way to screw the Mets with Cohen running the show. No home town discounts but he needs Cohen as a bidder on his best clients.
 
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My next priority would be Thor or Stroman with the preference here being Thor. Conforto can wait. You can never have enough pitching.
 
My next priority would be Thor or Stroman with the preference here being Thor. Conforto can wait. You can never have enough pitching.
I try to sign Thor now as we have the bargaining power. TJ surgery is no longer something that usually has long term negative effect on a pitcher but since it is still an unknown- you lock him up now and don't wait until he hits the market. If he comes back for the 2nd half and is throwing 98 mph- even if he gets hit, some team will offer him a Wheeler type contract. So, lock him in with a Nola type contract now and both sides will most likely be happy.
Stroman- I sort of want to see what he can do with a full season
Conforto- he is the real prize but as stated, Boras is most likely going to take him to market. So expect he will look for at least a Springer type contract. I don't think there would be a hometown discount but I do think Met's get the last look.
Lindor signing is huge in so many ways
 
Great news, 10 years is about right. Lindor brings so much to the club. For that money, he plays other than pitcher, the most important position on the field. It's not like throwing that kind of money at a player who mostly plays DH. Who misses the Wilpons, raise your hand? Not so fast Kbee- lmfao!!!!!!
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Great signing for the Mets.

I’d say sign Conforto but Boras is his agent and he don’t do extensions. Plus Boras usually tries his damdest to screw the Mets any way he can. So I’m not as hopeful for that.
Does the agent work for the player? When did that change? I know the agent's job is to advise the player to get the best possible deal, but at the end of the day the player makes the final decision.
 
Start of season and now we know what our team looks like- here are my thoughts.
1) deGrom kills it and gets support. Going to very close to 300k and will be under 2.30 era- 18 wins and CY#3
2) Lindor plays big- one of the few Mets that gets over 650 plate appearances. Defense we having seen in a very long time. not a high BA- between .280-.290 but gets 70+ extra base hits 120runs
3) Alonso- he is the other 650+ PA guy- hits .260 with 45HR 125 RBI
4) For some reason- Met's just never seem to just want to let McNeil just lock in- gets between 550-600 Pa's and once again hits over .310 but slow start.
5) Davis will split a lot of time and get 400ABs- .280 ba 18 HR
6) Nimmo misses 20+ games with injury again but still has OBP near or over .400 and some pop.
7) Dom does get over 500 ABs and gives us 60 Extra base hits and near 100 RBI
8) Conforto has near MVP year - Lindor/Alonso/Conforto all get votes...he goes .290 35 HR 100+ RBI
9) Diaz is a 30+ save guy and sub .200 era but is typical self. 5-6 games in a row that he can't be touched and then a game where he goes 1/3 inning and gives up 3 runs.

10) Rojas drives us crazy with resting hot players the day after getting 3 hits - pulling starters the inning after striking out the side etc...

Mets win 92-95 and it comes down to last week to see who wins division and who takes first WC spot.
 
I have us slightly below at 90-91 wins so we are right there. Just want to see the pen hold up. D I'm not as worried about as we should be able to mash our way into winning a lot of games. We should really take off in late May once Lugo and Carrasco get back to the team. First 15 games are against our division I think so just try and stay around .500 or better and we're solid.

Conforto and Thor extensions next hopefully. Stroman probably walks but I guess I could see opposite with Thor walking and Stroman staying but we'll worry about that in October after the parade. :)

LFGM!!!
 
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Does the agent work for the player? When did that change? I know the agent's job is to advise the player to get the best possible deal, but at the end of the day the player makes the final decision.
When was the last time a Boras client did an extension? He almost always have his client go free agent to get the most money possible.
 
When was the last time a Boras client did an extension? He almost always have his client go free agent to get the most money possible.
Board may advise his clients to follow his lead, but a player at anytime can make the final decision. Conforto has already said he's not against discussing a new contract doing the season. That goes against Boras" strategy and that was the player's decision.
 
Board may advise his clients to follow his lead, but a player at anytime can make the final decision. Conforto has already said he's not against discussing a new contract doing the season. That goes against Boras" strategy and that was the player's decision.
We shall see and hopefully I’m wrong.
 
I believe Boras did extensions for Altuve , Strasburg, C Gonzalez, J Weaver, Gomez, Andrus, Bogaerts,

So- he does do them, but it isn't that often.
 
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