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OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread

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Canha cleanup, Escobar 5th, and Jankowski…yikes. Hope we can take 1 in Atlanta.
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I'll take 2. Or 3.
 
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Cano has days where he looks like a 30 y/o Cano and then, 20 games where he is done.

OMFG - Max is insane.
Diaz- I do not care what Cano cost us in $$$- trade is now a net positive for the Met's- prove me wrong.

Damn- If deGrom comes back strong- what are teams supposed to do this year with deGrom/Max/Bassitt/Walker and then either Peterson/Megill/Williams- and Diaz who is now as good as it gets?
 
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Batting Average on Balls In Play (BABIP). If the pitcher is striking everyone out there will be no batting average to go with it since there are no balls being put into play.
I'm an avid baseball fan, but all of these "new" stats (or perhaps they are not new but the abbreviations are?) are kind of annoying. I'm happy with ERA, batting average, and saves for a reliever. Strikeouts per batter is useful too, I guess.
 
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I'm an avid baseball fan, but all of these "new" stats (or perhaps they are not new but the abbreviations are?) are kind of annoying. I'm happy with ERA, batting average, and saves for a reliever. Strikeouts per batter is useful too, I guess.
I too am in favor of the Equal Rights Amendment. Don't see it happening anytime soon though.😏

Seriously though, if you are looking for one single metric for hitting, OPS is FAR superior to traditional batting average, no?
 
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I'm an avid baseball fan, but all of these "new" stats (or perhaps they are not new but the abbreviations are?) are kind of annoying. I'm happy with ERA, batting average, and saves for a reliever. Strikeouts per batter is useful too, I guess.
This one is relatively new for public consumption within the last 15 years or such. I have been into the SABRmetrics/advanced analytics for a while now as to me a better understanding of the game is more helpful. I also believe every stat has to be looked out from the basic ones to the more advanced. I love constantly learning about the game. I think I am also in the age range where it was easier to get into. I also started following the minors relatively early on in about 2000 as it just interested me as to a full picture of the organization. I am in my late 30's.
 
This one is relatively new for public consumption within the last 15 years or such. I have been into the SABRmetrics/advanced analytics for a while now as to me a better understanding of the game is more helpful. I also believe every stat has to be looked out from the basic ones to the more advanced. I love constantly learning about the game. I think I am also in the age range where it was easier to get into. I also started following the minors relatively early on in about 2000 as it just interested me as to a full picture of the organization. I am in my late 30's.
I'm "older." To my point, the News12 guy thinks the same thing. Things like exit velocity--who gives a crap? It's a get off my lawn/old man yells at cloud sort of thing, I guess. As a kid, I used to take the baseball stats section out of the Sunday paper each week and study it for a good part of the day.

 
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I'm "older." To my point, the News12 guy thinks the same thing. Things like exit velocity--who gives a crap? It's a get off my lawn/old man yells at cloud sort of thing, I guess. As a kid, I used to take the baseball stats section out of the Sunday paper each week and study it for a good part of the day.

On WCBS (880), the Mets announcers commented on these new metrics that seem to appear out of thin air. They gave an example of JD's hard-hit rate means crap if you're not making enough contact. JD has 162 AB with 59 strikeouts. The announcers called it a worthless stat to promote because it can be misleading.
 
Just like anything a stat in a vacuum is not good enough. You still have to look at the big picture. For Davis as you mentioned he hits the ball hard but he also strikes out too much. If he can fix the strikeout issue (doubtful) then you have a competent player. As he is right now he doesn't add much value to the team.

I do find it funny people criticize but the best teams/front offices in baseball are the ones using the most analytics. They also have a much better and deeper insight into it than the public. Cohen has already tripled or quadrupled our analytics department because he understands the importance in today's game.
 
On WCBS (880), the Mets announcers commented on these new metrics that seem to appear out of thin air. They gave an example of JD's hard-hit rate means crap if you're not making enough contact. JD has 162 AB with 59 strikeouts. The announcers called it a worthless stat to promote because it can be misleading.
Never heard of that stat. I like Howie and Dave. I listen to them while I am riding my mountain bike.

And don't you mean HHR? 😜 🙄
 
Just like anything a stat in a vacuum is not good enough. You still have to look at the big picture. For Davis as you mentioned he hits the ball hard but he also strikes out too much. If he can fix the strikeout issue (doubtful) then you have a competent player. As he is right now he doesn't add much value to the team.

I do find it funny people criticize but the best teams/front offices in baseball are the ones using the most analytics. They also have a much better and deeper insight into it than the public. Cohen has already tripled or quadrupled our analytics department because he understands the importance in today's game.
Old school eyeball test is always useful: sucks/great.
 
I like stats I can understand. OPS, which I consider the new gold standard of offensive stats, is very understandable. On-base percentage plus slugging percentage. Two traditional stats, just added together.

I don't care for stats like WAR (Wins Above Replacement) which are generated by computer algorithm. Especially since there are different algorithms and different computations.
 
Lugo ERA back to back days is around 10.3

Lugo ERA after at least one day rest is around 2.3

Stat was shown other night and I don’t remember exact but it was 10 something and 2 something
 
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Not a favorable starting pitching matchup tonight for the Mets.
I've been thinking the same thing because if the nibbler starts nibbling and falling behind in counts constantly he will be giving up long balls. Hopefully he can stay ahead and then go outside of the zone with sliders down and in because as Gary Cohen pointed out this team will chase. But they are also lethal on hit me fastballs down the heart of the plate. Their guy is an unknown to us because it might be our first time facing him.
 
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