OT: PAC-2 About To Raid The Mountain West
- Thread starter bigmatt718
- Start date
I can see American going after Air Force again since their reasons to be in the MWC all just jumped ship.
AAC already has Army Navy so why not have all the academies if they can deal with the geography.
The Final Form, right there. Add either UVA/UNC or Cal/Stanford to make it the 20 team B2G and then shut it down. 79 school major FBS if you include ND as an Indy is most fair for everyone.
Would be a savvy move for the AAC. Then grab someone like Delaware or Old Dominion or JMU.
Barry Odom is a good Coach . Despite losing their starting QB to USC they have not missed a beat.
They don’t draw squat in Allegiance Stadium but the market makes them a good fit for the PAC 12.
Florida State has sued the P2 for an injunction forcing them to be added.
He lost Petrino to Ark shortly after hiring him and did a nice job of finding Brennan Marrion who seems solid. IIRC he hired Heupel as OC at Mizzou too. He couldn't take them to heights Drinkwitz has recently though.
Imagine some hypothetical Aztec fan who has been in a coma for five years waking up to this news and being so excited! Then he hears what happened to the Pac-12 while he was out...
And then does he say put me in a coma again? 😉
Sounds like maybe UNLV not added at the moment because of potential political issues separating from Nevada. Would the PAC take both?
Also this on Stanford Cal, echoing what I mentioned above. If they wanted to be associated with those schools they would have never done the cross country trek to the ACC. So besides the current GoR issue, I think they rather be associated with ACC universities. I don’t see the ACC going anywhere regardless of what happens with the GoR. There aren’t enough seats at the B10/SEC tables. So Stanford and Cal will stick with the ACC.
Also this on Stanford Cal, echoing what I mentioned above. If they wanted to be associated with those schools they would have never done the cross country trek to the ACC. So besides the current GoR issue, I think they rather be associated with ACC universities. I don’t see the ACC going anywhere regardless of what happens with the GoR. There aren’t enough seats at the B10/SEC tables. So Stanford and Cal will stick with the ACC.
What any new PAC would need is to solve the problem that broke them up. TV revenue. They failed because of 2 things... TV partner with a cable giant or a network with leverage (like Fox pairing with B1G). PAC completely owned their network and lost the "musical chairs" game of finding a strong partner. They had no leverage. The only deals cable companies would make were completely on their terms.. meaning very little money for PAC.. meaning PAC teams revenue would be a fraction of that of teh Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 and even the ACC. So teh conference fell apart as teams sought the revenues they needed.
The PAC cannot solve that. Not without some new network rising up or an existing deal with a P4 disappearing. Maybe if they got a sugar momma streaming company paying too much for weak content. Wouldn't be the first time that happened.
Maybe Oregon State and Wazzu should get the ACC to ask them in.. bribe em.
The PAC cannot solve that. Not without some new network rising up or an existing deal with a P4 disappearing. Maybe if they got a sugar momma streaming company paying too much for weak content. Wouldn't be the first time that happened.
Maybe Oregon State and Wazzu should get the ACC to ask them in.. bribe em.
They’re going to get a tv deal and it’ll likely be the best, or close to it, in the G5(6). It won’t be anything like what any of the P4 get, including the B12/ACC.
Based on.. meh.. too many.. never mind.. just put all the western teams out west with teh western Big XII teams... and move teh Big 12's eastern teams tot he SEC and ACC. Maybe shift a few SEC and ACC teams up to Big Ten.. like Mizzou. respect geography is what I suggest.. and if you managed this mega-league of conferences as a while I'd imagine you could find enough TV revenue to satisfy everyone... but it would cost the HAVES some advantages... so it will never happen.. and Rutgers is a HAVE now.. n ot compared to Michigan and Ohio State and so on.. but to many non-P2 teams... think of the MLB and NFL and NBA.. plenty of small market towns compared to others.. but it works. It could work for college also... and teh athletes would be better able to handle travel, athletics and academics. All you gotta do is more OOC play pairing big market programs with smalls.
I look for the PAC to go after UTSA and Texas State right away , then try to pull in UNLV and maybe New Mexico or see if strong FCS programs like South Dakota State and North Dakota State might be worth pursuing if they want to move up to FBS status.
Going into Texas territory might be a good idea for finding a fairly good TV rights deal and besides the two Texas schools I mentioned SMU might decide playing for free in the ACC isn't as good as play for pay in the PAC is the PAC can get a decent TV rights. deal
Also California and Stanford might think about returning, if their travel expenses cuts into what they are getting from the ACC and the worry tht the ACC is in trouble as a conference so when it's time to receive a full share the ACC will not have some of their top programs and shares will be less than originally expected.
Going into Texas territory might be a good idea for finding a fairly good TV rights deal and besides the two Texas schools I mentioned SMU might decide playing for free in the ACC isn't as good as play for pay in the PAC is the PAC can get a decent TV rights. deal
Also California and Stanford might think about returning, if their travel expenses cuts into what they are getting from the ACC and the worry tht the ACC is in trouble as a conference so when it's time to receive a full share the ACC will not have some of their top programs and shares will be less than originally expected.
The PAC-12 made the tragic mistake of not partnering with a media conglomerate for it's TV network. Neither Fox nor ESPN had a vested interest the PAC-12 network. When the carriers (DirecTV, Comcast, etc) told the PAC-12 to pound sand, they didn't have a media colossus to back them up. I suspect ESPN gets the PAC-6+ primarily for the late-night Saturday window and for more ESPN+ programming. The ACC isn't taking Wazzou and OSU.
the professor that killed the pac 12 tv deal
? I thought that guy was Arizona state
ASU's local newspaper defends Crow and places the blame on Utah's President
>A Pac-12 Insider recently discovered the president of the school responsible and it was not Arizona State's Michael Crow.
It was Utah's Taylor Randall, according to Pac-12 Insider John Canzano, <
Arizona State president Michael Crow wasn't the one holding up Pac-12 media deal
Remember when speculation ran rampant that Michael Crow was the reason the Pac-12 couldn't get a new media rights deal? The speculation was wrong.
www.azcentral.com
I heard feelers went out to UConn to see if there was interest...
If Senator Geary is the obstacle, he can be persuaded to listen to reason...🙂
This move is the reason why I am so thankful to be in the BIG. This is just another nonsensical reshuffle of western schools. Now instead of having two depleted western conferences that are a shadows of their former selves, there will be three. All this move does is allow OSU?WSU to keep all the exit fee money the conference collected.
So are USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington as far as thankfulness of B1G membership.
I disagree. This move handpicks the best of the MWC and pairs that with 2 previous P5 teams. Suddenly, you now have a conference with 6 teams that have notably superior combination of both brand recognition and football performance banded together in pursuit of others (which could conceivably be the best of the rest).
By not taking New Mexico, San Jose St etc. they have eliminated dead weight that exists in the AAC which will position them ahead IMO. The geography remains a challenge in media negotiations from a revenue perspective it if they can secure an Eastern division that would help.
This conference will probably be what the 2013 configuration of the AAC was -- tweener conference that stands above the rest of their division but not in the next higher league. Even after Rutgers and UL left the AAC, there was still a lot of talent at the top to offset the teams struggling/at the bottom (Tulsa, UConn, USF at the time). It just probably isn't worthwhile for Memphis, USF and Tulane to join a conference with no one else in their time zone; otherwise it would be the natural home for them.
I still question whether the money difference between the 2 (AAC/PAC) would be enough to motivate any school to move and deal with the added travel west. I'm not even sure how much the PAC would want to travel anywhere beyond Texas either.
I do agree that they will try to be the best of the rest and they have a good chance at it. That's really all they need because if they can establish themselves as that then they will have he inside track on a CFP bid. It's the 5 highest ranked conference champs that get the auto bids. If they can be seen as the conference between the P4 and the G5, it'll help them perception wise most years to get that 5th bid.
Can the AAC jettison their dead weight and merge with the PAC to form a large conference with East and West divisions? The AACPAC? The PAAC?
Absolutely agree with you on this.
Standford and Cal are not going back. They want their schools to be associated with great academic schools including 10 AAU member universities. With Stanford having a $36 Billion endowment, money is hardly an issue.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
I was listening to College Football Enquirer pod (Wetzel and Forde can be hilarious) and Wetzel mentioned Stanford has been traveling to the northeast for women's field hockey even before this move to the ACC. So it's not like they have an issue with it if there's not an option they like.
I rest my case. Most Looney Tunes fanbase out there. Make your football program better than dogshit, and maybe you'll get into the ACC, UConn.
As I mentioned above nothing likely will change in the format for the next two years.
After that with the newly signed CFP contract, the format could change but not with regard to anything in relation to the PAC. The thing that could change is possibly an expansion to 14 teams or things of that nature. Nothing is set in stone after the next two years but 12 teams is the minimum iirc.
After that with the newly signed CFP contract, the format could change but not with regard to anything in relation to the PAC. The thing that could change is possibly an expansion to 14 teams or things of that nature. Nothing is set in stone after the next two years but 12 teams is the minimum iirc.
Wyoming or Air Force would make more sense than a football only invite to UConn.
I can’t see Wyoming. I’d think they would take Utah St before them. Historically more competitive and more of a presence.
Latest posts
-
-
-
The Official “Worst Weekend in Rutgers Athletics History” Thread
- Latest: KnightLife1994