Amazing some of the utterly stupid things people say
Heck of an imaginary narrative you created in your mind
Sick of Schiano’s BS
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Heck of an imaginary narrative you created in your mind
What would be the minimum accomplishments by Greg to change your thinking? For me, the next step is to have a playmaking and resourceful QB who is a leader who can move the chains.
Go out and win games. Go at least 6-6 with 3 conference wins. Is that asking too much in Y4 ? How is that “utterly stupid”?
What’s stupid is that you basically said he is resting on his laurel and coasting
Yes….that is a stupid thing to say
He gets paid no matter the results. It’s really a scam. It’s not a stretch to suggest he wanted to come back to boost his financial status. He’s really more of a politician than he is a hungry HC looking to build a program which ironically was built pretty good before he bolted to Tampa
Hell of a narrative that you created in your mind
The most absurd thing about them is when they try to pretend that Schiano's critics are impatient and have unrealistic expectations, as if expecting the team to score anything at all against a middle-of-the-road program in the last game of the 3rd season is in any way unrealistic. It's cuckoo land to be anything but dismayed by such bad play.
Doesn't every college coach? You make it sound so EXTRAORDINARY!!!
The 2040 season will be when things start rolling.
Kansas was 9-60 in the 5 years prior to Leopold showing up. Got to a bowl game in his second year without needing another team to drop out to play in it. Their future looks pretty good.
Yes and by then this Schiano-apologist fan base will forever be awestruck walking past shiny 30 ft tall GS statues at every stadium entrance and parking lot, even the game day lots at the renamed Gregory Schiano Athletic Center. I heard there’s already a movement for Schiano Field @ SHI Stadium. He started it.
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What he’s saying is, he did nothing to deserve his contract and is well aware he’s fleecing the university.
We‘ll have to defer to your experience on that.
shut your claptrap 😉when talking out of your butt 😁
This year G2 should prove the haters wrong by putting a competitive tean on the field that shows the promise of future winning seasons.
And if he doesn't, we begin the slow march towards sending the dinosaur to the tar pits and hiring an offense first HC like a modern football team.
Like I've said for years with enduring criticism in response, Schiano is a relic who reached his peak in coaching long ago. If people are expecting some kind of miracle renaissance under GS at 57 years old with his stubborn, outdated, simpleminded ways and consistently poor gameday coaching, you have a lot of mental anguish in your future. His career is rife with failures interspersed by occasional mediocre accomplishments in a substandard conference a generation ago. At this point, it's just humorous watching him attempt to navigate modern college football, and then give his standard litany of excuses after each humiliating loss (the complete annihilation at the hands of supposed near-peer Maryland at the end of his 4th season is an apt compendium to his career). It's even funnier that we have fans who still think he's some kind of program-saving football genius.
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That might not be a great comparison. Rutgers football is far from being a Party Experience. ; )
well the 3-4 hours before kickoff certainly are
I'm not deflecting. I'm teasing.
I couldn't care less about all this gnashing of teeth over the coach. I have no dog in this hunt. I never wanted him back in the first place, but he's here now and not going anywhere for at least for another couple years.
I'm not the RU AD, so it's not my problem. Venting my spleen repeatedly about something over which I have zero control isn't my idea of a fun way to pass the time. But y'all have fun with it.
Meanwhile, I see LOTS of value and fun in teasing my fellow forum-member friends when they make overly-aggressive posts, especially about STDs. That shit's just pure low-hanging-fruit fun. 😀
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About the Gary thing.
Like you, I wasn't wild about him coming back in the first place. I think he's a career underachiever. I think his management style is better suited to an episode of "Mad Men" than to a 21st century football team with new transfer rules and NIL and social media pervasiveness. I think his coaching style is equally outdated. I believed, 3+ years ago, that the shine would wear off his apple by year 4 and that the fan based would begin to feel the deja vu of lacking incremental progress.
The only thing that's changed between then and now is that now I genuinely don't care. If the team performs poorly this season, I'm happy to take my 35 years as a season ticket holder, pack them away with my home VHS collection and go boat shopping.
Funny thing - I was at a family event on Sunday and my nephew-in-law, who is an RU grad and a big fan, was asking me about this coming season. We agreed it probably won't amount to much. Then he told me about a former co-worker who had Jets season tickets for years and decided to save the money, buy a boat and watch the games on TV floating at anchor. "Best decision he ever made".
It could very well be that, a year and a half from now, I'm doing the same thing. You're more than welcome to jet down to the Bahamas and join me in watching us get crushed by half the teams in the B1G. 😉
Haven't really thought about any candidates, since Greg contract is long. But I've been calling for KC Keeler, since Greg first left
I'd throw a bag at Mike Elko at Duke in a couple years if he doesn't get poached for a top tier SEC job.
Army rarely fumbles pitches because their players and coaches understand the fundamentals of their offense. That's been missing at RU.
year 5 winning season, year 4 might not be a winner but sure signs of improvement seeing the way team plays .
It's not instant gradifcation like some are demanding , then whining because that didn't happen./
It's 2 steps forward , one step back and then forward progrss starts in earnest continuing until RU FB becomes a respected program again by G2's 6th year
But the haters don't want to admit it takes time for a program like RU to become respectableand thwy claim Schiano was a bad hire while implying the elite College HCs were banging on Hobbs' door but he didn't answer their call.
It's certainly not as good a winning a conference championship which was the other aspect of that sentence that you conveniently chose to ignore, remind me again what year Greg has ever won a conference title? Let alone taking 2 sperate Programs to NC's. Lord knows also we're never seen a guy with proven track records of success at lower levels turn around notoriously losing programs in the P5... Oh wait, there's that Leipold guy who'se doing exactly that!
GS was offerred the Michigan job in 2007! 16 YEARS AGO! This is the problem with the Greg Cult, ya'll are so wrapped up in the past and have absolutely no idea how much the modern game has changed. Greg Schiano swore up and down this team would be "better in November", we were 0-5 in November and got b*tchslapped along the way. You're talking about a coach who was too chicken sh*t to run a 2 min drill with 3 timeouts before halftime in a game we lost by 6... A coach who opened his third season with the single biggest joke of an offensive series in the history of CFB by trotting out 3 seperate QB's for 3 seperate snaps. That alone is worth firing a guy over! "better in November" give me a BREAK!
Michigan offered Schiano after the dinosaur Lloyd Carr retired, I PROMISE you, Michigan had absolutely no interest in Schiano at the time they hired Harbaugh. Heck they had like 4 coaching changes between harbaugh and Carr and never once offered Greg the job again, why do you think that is??? Jimmy Johnson was a hell of a college coach back in the day, Miami's had however many coaches in the last 2 decades, why haven't they called Jimmy back?
As for Houston, the reason he hasn't gotten the "big Job" yet is because he hasn't taken the easy way out. He has been offered DC jobs at major schools along the way and turned them down because he's only interested in being a HC, he's gone on record saying this.
But hey, keep drinking the Greg-Ade... Lord knows when this all ends each of you who are wrapped up in the past need to learn the lesson once and for all, YOU DON'T HIRE RETREADS THAT LITERALLY NO ONE ELSE WANTS!
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Loyd " the Dinosaur" Carr wasn't too shabby as the Werewolves HC .
Those that disparage his time at Michigan probably have verry little understanding of what it takes to be a winner at a program like Michigan and the type of coach elite programs go after when trying to replace a winning HC
Carr's a proven winner
Those that disparage his time at Michigan probably have verry little understanding of what it takes to be a winner at a program like Michigan and the type of coach elite programs go after when trying to replace a winning HC
Carr's a proven winner
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| Year | Team | Overall | Conference | Standing | Bowl/playoffs | Coaches# | AP° |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michigan Wolverines (Big Ten Conference) (1995–2007) | |||||||
| 1995 | Michigan | 9–4 | 5–3 | T–3rd | L Alamo | 19 | 17 |
| 1996 | Michigan | 8–4 | 5–3 | T–5th | L Outback | 20 | 20 |
| 1997 | Michigan | 12–0 | 8–0 | 1st | W Rose | 2 | 1 |
| 1998 | Michigan | 10–3 | 7–1 | T–1st | W Florida Citrus | 12 | 12 |
| 1999 | Michigan | 10–2 | 6–2 | T–2nd | W Orange† | 5 | 5 |
| 2000 | Michigan | 9–3 | 6–2 | T–1st | W Florida Citrus | 10 | 11 |
| 2001 | Michigan | 8–4 | 6–2 | 2nd | L Florida Citrus | 20 | 20 |
| 2002 | Michigan | 10–3 | 6–2 | 3rd | W Outback | 9 | 9 |
| 2003 | Michigan | 10–3 | 7–1 | 1st | L Rose† | 7 | 6 |
| 2004 | Michigan | 9–3 | 7–1 | T–1st | L Rose† | 12 | 14 |
| 2005 | Michigan | 7–5 | 5–3 | T–3rd | L Alamo | ||
| 2006 | Michigan | 11–2 | 7–1 | T–2nd | L Rose† | 9 | 8 |
| 2007 | Michigan | 9–4 | 6–2 | T–2nd | W Capital One | 19 | 18 |
| Michigan: | 122–40 | 81–23 | |||||
| Total: | 122–40 |
ummm, just let the record show that if a team has "many talented players" and goes on a 1-8 stretch to finish the season, the coach should probably be fired....
I can't attend games in person at this point anyway, so I'll watch on TV and if the game gets out of hand, go do something else.
I do miss the tailgating though. So if possible, I'll try to get out for a bit of that this season and then head home prior to the start of the game.
Boating sounds way more fun and if one is willing to pay for it, one can always watch the games from the boat.
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