TV revenue puts B10 4th vs. AAC =8th

[imbazza]

College Playoff TV revenue $
PAC-12 69.3M
SEC 65.6M
Big-12 64.7M
B1G 64.0M
ACC 58.3M
MountainW 23.5M
Conf-USA 16.3M
AAC 15.2M
Mid -Am 14.1M
Sun belt 12.0M

Thank goodness we are out of that conference with the New P5 structure the AAC went from ~$27M to $15.2.

If the money is spread evenly (which it will not be ) we would be entitled to $4.6M.
We should get more because we did win our bowl game! (OSU won 2 bowl games so we see where that is going)

 

[anvilofstars]

This is only for the college football playoffs. Not actual conference TV revenue.

 

[mikemarc1]

This is only for the college football playoffs. Not actual conference TV revenue.

How does B12, with no members in the Playoff..get more money than B10, with the Chanpions???

 

[j10oreo]

I'm assuming he meant for the bowls, not actual college playoffs?

 

[JPhoboken]

How does B12, with no members in the Playoff..get more money than B10, with the Chanpions???

from Collegefootballplayoff.com

This explains the Revenue distribution model:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $50 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $75 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.3 million if it meets the APR; the other three independents will share $922,658.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2 million to cover expenses for each game.

 

[JPhoboken]

I'm assuming he meant for the bowls, not actual college playoffs?

No, I believe the payoffs listed are for the Playoff distribution only. Conferences have other revenues for other bowls as well.

 

[RURM85]

from Collegefootballplayoff.com

This explains the Revenue distribution model:

(1) Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school’s football team meets the NCAA’s APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive the $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

(2) Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $50 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $75 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $2.3 million if it meets the APR; the other three independents will share $922,658.

(3) A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement (in 2014-2015, the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowls).

(4) Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2 million to cover expenses for each game.

and I'll also add for the college bowl money alone, the Big 12 divides its pot by 10 teams vs. the B1G's division of 14 teams. In the 2014-2015 college football bowl revenue, the Big 12 averaged $6.5M per team vs. the BIG's $4.6M per team, due to 4 less teams. These are average dollars per team.

 

[RURM85]

Back to the OP, the B1G is the last major conference to renegotiate its TV/rights deal in the current cycle. The Big 12 just negotiated a new TV deal finalized in september 2012 and it runs through 2025. The B1G's current deal began in 2006-2007 and the 10 year deal is coming due in 2 years, compared to a new deal by the Big 12 a few years ago. The OP's numbers will change significantly once the B1G negotiates/finalizes its new deal.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Back to the OP, the B1G is the last major conference to renegotiate its TV/rights deal in the current cycle. The Big 12 just negotiated a new TV deal finalized in september 2012 and it runs through 2025. The B1G's current deal began in 2006-2007 and the 10 year deal is coming due in 2 years, compared to a new deal by the Big 12 a few years ago. The OP's numbers will change significantly once the B1G negotiates/finalizes its new deal.

That is correct. The SEC, ACC, PAC-12 and BIG12 are all on new deals. The Big Ten are the only Power 5 conference still in their old deal. Talks should begin next year.

 

[imbazza]

YES COLLEGE PLAYOFF sorry I can not change the title
see Yahoo story:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...154.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw

 

[mikemarc1]

Interesting. Thanks for the answer.

 

[knightinaz]

I thought remember reading somewhere that the B1G got less this year because the Rose Bowl was one of the playoff games.

Anyone know details?

 

[Roy_Faulker]

I know RU is phasing into a full share of BIG revenue. Rutgers should have negotiated to get at least the difference between current deal and the deal that will be negotiated.

 

[topdecktiger]

I thought remember reading somewhere that the B1G got less this year because the Rose Bowl was one of the playoff games.

Anyone know details?

It's sort of confusing. The reporters need to be more specific about exactly what comprises these payouts.

The story says:

This is a big difference from the guaranteed $50 million each Power Five conference member gets, and that’s just the base. The amount of money each Power Five conference earns is often higher depending on a variety of other revenue streams, including participation in the College Football Playoff and “host” bowls, which were the major bowls played on New Years Eve.

So from what this article says, everybody gets $50 million base, plus being in the Playoffs, plus playing in "host" bowls. The Rose Bowl (along with the Sugar and Orange) are "contract" bowls, so that would seem to indicate that this figure doesn't count the contracts the individual conferences have. My best guess is that those payouts aren't counted in these figures, because they aren't actually paid out by the CFP, but are "side deals" that are paid out by the individual bowl games.

 

[imbazza]

That is correct. The SEC, ACC, PAC-12 and BIG12 are all on new deals. The Big Ten are the only Power 5 conference still in their old deal. Talks should begin next year.

It goes further than just that! Bowl host i.e. the playoffs and New years day games I believe place the PAC-12, Big12, ACC and SEC at a different revenue advantage as no bowl games in B10 Turf, so in the long run it just more money for southern and west coat teams then northern school.

 

[RAA-1]

Here is an article from last year about the projected revenue to each B1G school from TV rights ( regular TV and BTN) for the regular season. This is in addition to the funds discussed re the bowls and playoffs.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-projected-to-get-45-million-with-new-tv-deal

 

[topdecktiger]

Here is an article from last year about the projected revenue to each B1G school from TV rights ( regular TV and BTN) for the regular season. This is in addition to the funds discussed re the bowls and playoffs.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24540002/big-ten-schools-projected-to-get-45-million-with-new-tv-deal

I think that figure is all-inclusive. The article says:

According to CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd, the $44.5 million figure is based on a new primary rights deal and other conference distribution for the conference to be in place following the 2016-17.

That sounds like the $44 million is the TV contract + bowls, CFB, etc.

 

[knightinaz]

It's sort of confusing. The reporters need to be more specific about exactly what comprises these payouts.

The story says:

This is a big difference from the guaranteed $50 million each Power Five conference member gets, and that’s just the base. The amount of money each Power Five conference earns is often higher depending on a variety of other revenue streams, including participation in the College Football Playoff and “host” bowls, which were the major bowls played on New Years Eve.

So from what this article says, everybody gets $50 million base, plus being in the Playoffs, plus playing in "host" bowls. The Rose Bowl (along with the Sugar and Orange) are "contract" bowls, so that would seem to indicate that this figure doesn't count the contracts the individual conferences have. My best guess is that those payouts aren't counted in these figures, because they aren't actually paid out by the CFP, but are "side deals" that are paid out by the individual bowl games.

I guess I found my answer if this is correct

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/12/08/college-football-playoff-conference-payouts/

According to this, in the years that the Rose is not a playoff bowl the B1G & the P12 get an additional $40MM each.

The breakdown here shows the Orange paying the ACC & SEC $27.5MM so I would guess that in the years that the Orange is a playoff bowl this $55MM doesn't get paid out.

 

[JPhoboken]

It's sort of confusing. The reporters need to be more specific about exactly what comprises these payouts.

The story says:

This is a big difference from the guaranteed $50 million each Power Five conference member gets, and that’s just the base. The amount of money each Power Five conference earns is often higher depending on a variety of other revenue streams, including participation in the College Football Playoff and “host” bowls, which were the major bowls played on New Years Eve.

So from what this article says, everybody gets $50 million base, plus being in the Playoffs, plus playing in "host" bowls. The Rose Bowl (along with the Sugar and Orange) are "contract" bowls, so that would seem to indicate that this figure doesn't count the contracts the individual conferences have. My best guess is that those payouts aren't counted in these figures, because they aren't actually paid out by the CFP, but are "side deals" that are paid out by the individual bowl games.

Read my post above, it explains the payout for the Playoff money.

 

[ecojew]

It would be nice to see a listing of all of the sources of revenue that factor into conference payouts at the end of the year, with the amounts for each. This would minimally include:

the NY6 bowls and playoffs TV money
the NY6 bowls and playoffs bowl money (if this is extra)
the other bowl payouts for conference participants (the B1G had 8 of these)
BTN money
ESPN money
NCAA tournament money - men's and women bball
any other NCAA payouts for the non-revenue sports
any extraneous TV money not covered by the 2 main contracts

others? Maybe with all of that information in one place, we could finally get a handle on the sums of money involved. As for RU, I still would like to know if we are getting a previously determined fixed amount each year until we are fully vested in the conference or if we get a % that rises each year till we are at 100%. If the latter, then as conference income rises (like it must have with all of the new cable money going to BTN as a result of the addition of two sizable new states), RU gets more money, which would be nice.

 

[topdecktiger]

I guess I found my answer if this is correct

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/12/08/college-football-playoff-conference-payouts/

According to this, in the years that the Rose is not a playoff bowl the B1G & the P12 get an additional $40MM each.

The breakdown here shows the Orange paying the ACC & SEC $27.5MM so I would guess that in the years that the Orange is a playoff bowl this $55MM doesn't get paid out.

What I'm saying is, I don't know if the Rose Bowl would ever be included in this particular calculation. The reason being, the OP's table is supposed to be payouts from the CFP. I don't know if the Rose Bowl would be considered as being a payout from the CFP, since that contract is directly between the Big Ten/Pac 12 and the Rose Bowl itself.

According to the CFP website, the P5 leagues get $50 million base payment, plus whatever else. The ACC got $27.5 million from the Orange bowl, so that would work $77.5. However, the OP's table lists the ACC with $58.3 million, so there's no way the Orange Bowl is being included in the OP's figure. Therefore, I would guess the Rose Bowl won't be included in next year's figure either.

 

[topdecktiger]

Read my post above, it explains the payout for the Playoff money.

I realize that point. Here's why I say that. A few weeks ago, this article came out about the CFP payouts.
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...ege-football-playoff-payoff-acc.html?page=all

It says:

Here’s a breakdown by conference of $404.8 million paid out by the College Football Playoff after expenses

Then it give the list of the payouts. For example, the article lists the SEC with $71.4 million. However, the OP's table has the SEC at $65.6 million. What I was getting at is that I keep seeing all these different figures being thrown around, and it's hard to tell which ones are accurate, or how they are even calculated.

 

[Roy_Faulker]

The crap thing about all this is it really means your cable bill will be going up

 

[hoquat63]

Slightly different stat. Was listening to some sports talk show over the weekend driving home from Ohio this weekend - the host said that this past year SEC network income = the PAC12 Network + B1G Network + ESPNU.