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COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...

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Sure, all those Tesla’s in my garage are al horse and buggy’s. I get it, you don’t want to work. Many want to. Stay in your pajamas all day. That’s your business.

Some jobs have benefited from WFH.
Particularly jobs with international staff that requires frequent contact with people in Europe.

Almost daily I’m on calls with colleagues in Paris, London and technology teams in India.
We say “mornings are for meetings with Europe. Afternoons are for meetings with North/South America.”

Removing my commute from NJ to Wall Street frees up so much more time in the morning.
Much more productive having no commute.
 
Can someone shed light on COVID mortality rates? I thought many said it would be around 1% in a worst case scenario, which is exponentially worse than the seasonal flu. We've had 165,000 confirmed cases in New Jersey and to date 12,200 have died. In Somerset County we've had 4,122 confirmed cases and 429 deaths to date. While many of the fatalities are in LTC patients (approximately 45%), the rest have been in the general population.
Yeah and 6000 k of those deaths were in nursing care facilities . I wonder who caused that mess? New York of course was worse . Simply put almost 50% of the deaths were in nursing care facilities and people over 75 were the biggest group ...most had underlying multiple conditions. Everyone is somewhat scared but from the beginning the mis-information and lack of consistent direction by scientists and medical professionals has literally SUCKED ...
 
It's hard to get a gripe of things just by virtuality alone, you need to be on the front lines of your business/job to get a true feel on what needs to be done or what isn't getting done. WebEx/Zoom is only a substitute for human interaction when need be, it should never be the end all solution.

But I think you're going to see companies start drifting away from the standard meeting rooms you see today, the new trends are going to be more laid back meeting rooms with couches and less tables or at least smaller ones. Kind of like a lounge or geared to make people feel more like at home.

10 years ago. Online shopping is great, but we will never replace stores. Yep.

People are not grasping the scope of virtual work, learning, etc.
 
As I said before, I have zero problem with people being out in public as long as they wear masks, especially when social distancing is difficult and most of the protesters did wear masks and some were social distancing, but certainly not all and that was just stupid. We'll likely see some small spikes in cases due to the protests. I wish the media and politicians had been more critical of that aspect of the protests.
One of my masks says:CARBON DIOXIDERS ANONYMOUS.
 
Regarding fatality rates, my wife's friend mentioned on a group text that her lab is part of a new study. Select wastewater treatment facilities are sampling viral loads in their inflows, and can spot the increases & decreases in COVID cases in their area up to 10 days before the human tests show same. With a little numerical modeling, they are able to make guesses as to how many people are infected with Sars-Cov-2. In short, the facility she works in is seeing viral loads for triple the number of reported confirmed cases. Obviously, the data model may be overpredicting cases, but if the number of actual infections is even double current confirmed cases, the fatality rate of COVID-19 would be way less too, since it seems everyone who dies gets tested already.
 
Sure, all those Tesla’s in my garage are al horse and buggy’s. I get it, you don’t want to work. Many want to. Stay in your pajamas all day. That’s your business.
He's not saying he doesn't want to work. He's saying he doesn't want to commute 2ish hours round trip per day, and pay however much it costs to do that.

Working from home is not an option at my job, but I have a 1 mile bike ride commute into work. I see my buddies who work union in the city and I want no part of that commute.
 
Regarding fatality rates, my wife's friend mentioned on a group text that her lab is part of a new study. Select wastewater treatment facilities are sampling viral loads in their inflows, and can spot the increases & decreases in COVID cases in their area up to 10 days before the human tests show same. With a little numerical modeling, they are able to make guesses as to how many people are infected with Sars-Cov-2. In short, the facility she works in is seeing viral loads for triple the number of reported confirmed cases. Obviously, the data model may be overpredicting cases, but if the number of actual infections is even double current confirmed cases, the fatality rate of COVID-19 would be way less too, since it seems everyone who dies gets tested already.
Ya I think this is likely true, but we always kind of knew this, some or even many people were not being diagnosed thus the fatality rate was lower, perhaps significantly, then what the recorded data is saying.

However the fatality rate is not, imo, the main indicator as to how dangerous this thing is. That is because this thing is so contagious, thus many more people will catch this then the flu. So even if the fatality rates are exactly the same Covid will kill many more people, because so many more people will get it.

Then you have to consider the tolls it is taking on Hospitals, we've seen it in NY, we've seen in NJ, and now we are seeing it in other states around the country like AZ, NC and TX.

The fatality rate is a small consideration in discussing how dangerous this virus is.
 
From the Governor. It's not over. Stay diligent.


“COVID-19 hasn’t suddenly left the state........We need to continue these self-distancing practices as we await the arrival of medications that will treat people who test positive for COVID-19.”

"We must address the disproportionate impact of COVID-19 on underserved and minority communities and ensure that anyone who needs a test can have one,”
 
Ya I think this is likely true, but we always kind of knew this, some or even many people were not being diagnosed thus the fatality rate was lower, perhaps significantly, then what the recorded data is saying.

However the fatality rate is not, imo, the main indicator as to how dangerous this thing is. That is because this thing is so contagious, thus many more people will catch this then the flu. So even if the fatality rates are exactly the same Covid will kill many more people, because so many more people will get it.

Then you have to consider the tolls it is taking on Hospitals, we've seen it in NY, we've seen in NJ, and now we are seeing it in other states around the country like AZ, NC and TX.

The fatality rate is a small consideration in discussing how dangerous this virus is.
How many yards we gained and first downs are part of the picture. But I would think the number at 00:00 is the most important.
 
From the Governor. It's not over. Stay diligent.


“COVID-19 hasn’t suddenly left the state........We need to continue these self-distancing practices as we await the arrival of medications that will treat people who test positive for COVID-19.”

"We must address the disproportionate impact of COVID-19 on underserved and minority communities and ensure that anyone who needs a test can have one,”

Did the governor lecture all the protesters/rioters over the last couple of weeks? If not he is a hypocrite and can shut up.

I did not support the open everything up protesters and I don't support what's been going on the last few weeks for the same reason, we are in a pandemic.

And the testing still sucks, my wife and I went last friday to drive through testing and we STILL don't have results.
 
So total # of fatalities? Ya, I mean Covid vs Flu is a blowout.

But you don't want to lose players due to injury either.
I’m not comparing as we are only playing one game right now.

Saying “he’s got head” or “he’s got a leg” is entirely different than being done forever.
 
Regarding fatality rates, my wife's friend mentioned on a group text that her lab is part of a new study. Select wastewater treatment facilities are sampling viral loads in their inflows, and can spot the increases & decreases in COVID cases in their area up to 10 days before the human tests show same. With a little numerical modeling, they are able to make guesses as to how many people are infected with Sars-Cov-2. In short, the facility she works in is seeing viral loads for triple the number of reported confirmed cases. Obviously, the data model may be overpredicting cases, but if the number of actual infections is even double current confirmed cases, the fatality rate of COVID-19 would be way less too, since it seems everyone who dies gets tested already.

I find that amazing
 
Ya I think this is likely true, but we always kind of knew this, some or even many people were not being diagnosed thus the fatality rate was lower, perhaps significantly, then what the recorded data is saying.

However the fatality rate is not, imo, the main indicator as to how dangerous this thing is. That is because this thing is so contagious, thus many more people will catch this then the flu. So even if the fatality rates are exactly the same Covid will kill many more people, because so many more people will get it.

Then you have to consider the tolls it is taking on Hospitals, we've seen it in NY, we've seen in NJ, and now we are seeing it in other states around the country like AZ, NC and TX.

The fatality rate is a small consideration in discussing how dangerous this virus is.

I agree. Seems we keep finding out the virus does damage beyond just being fatal to some people
 
Regarding fatality rates, my wife's friend mentioned on a group text that her lab is part of a new study. Select wastewater treatment facilities are sampling viral loads in their inflows, and can spot the increases & decreases in COVID cases in their area up to 10 days before the human tests show same. With a little numerical modeling, they are able to make guesses as to how many people are infected with Sars-Cov-2. In short, the facility she works in is seeing viral loads for triple the number of reported confirmed cases. Obviously, the data model may be overpredicting cases, but if the number of actual infections is even double current confirmed cases, the fatality rate of COVID-19 would be way less too, since it seems everyone who dies gets tested already.
 
But saying "he's going to have to spend a couple weeks in the hospital" is different then "he's got a leg".
So is being done for good (dead).
I agree. Seems we keep finding out the virus does damage beyond just being fatal to some people
Which is what some of us are hearing. Not sure if enough are listening though.

But if you want your public to listen and play along (longer) make it seem worse than it is. As it is now people are and have been not really listening or getting a little lax. And I am guilty of that too.
 
This is unsurprising.

These 14 states just hit their highest 7-day average of Covi-19 cases:

Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Florida
Kentucky
New Mexico
North Carolina
Mississippi
Oregon
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
 
This is unsurprising.

These 14 states just hit their highest 7-day average of Covi-19 cases:

Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Florida
Kentucky
New Mexico
North Carolina
Mississippi
Oregon
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Some of that is more testing. But in many of these states positive rate's are going up, as are hospitalizations.

As those states continue to open up the #'s are going to rise. Probably substantially. I don't see any way around it. I think in at least some of those states, they are just going to try to bull through it. Which might actually be the way to go?

NJ has put itself in position to read how those states are progressing, and see what works and what doesn't
 
Sure, but does this mean the hospital rate is not an important factor?
Death would be the final score to me.

Other stats are important and tell the story and not discounting or throwing them away but in the end I don’t want to hear about the storm, I want to hear the ship got to port.
 
So is being done for good (dead).
Which is what some of us are hearing. Not sure if enough are listening though.

But if you want your public to listen and play along (longer) make it seem worse than it is. As it is now people are and have been not really listening or getting a little lax. And I am guilty of that too.


What got my attention about covid is knowing several nurses and public health professionals who had first hand experience. I never saw them as concerned before. What they were seeing scared them. It really got their attention.
The nurses especially since several had worked in Oncology previously and clearly saw some bad stuff but never seemed as concerned with what they were seeing with covid.
 
What got my attention about covid is knowing several nurses and public health professionals who had first hand experience. I never saw them as concerned before. What they were seeing scared them. It really got their attention.
The nurses especially since several had worked in Oncology previously and clearly saw some bad stuff but never seemed as concerned with what they were seeing with covid.

Too bad no one has spoken up since Memorial Day, but maybe soon?

 
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FYI.

J&J to begin vaccine trial earlier than forecast
10:37 a.m. ET — Johnson & Johnson said it will begin its early-stage human trial for a potential coronavirus vaccine earlier than its initial forecast of September.

The human trial will start in the second half of July after strong preclinical data and “interactions with” regulatory authorities helped accelerate the timeline, the company said.

The company is using the same technologies it used to make its experimental Ebola vaccine, which was provided to people in the Democratic Republic of Congo in late 2019. The company said it is committed to the goal of supplying more than one billion doses globally through the course of 2021, provided the Covid-19 vaccine is safe and effective. —Berkeley Lovelace, Jr.
 
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Protests are going to screw up the #'s. Awful job by those protesting and causing these spikes.

Explain to the class why you advocated so strongly for Florida fully reopening (bars, restaurants, beaches, etc.) and babbled incessantly about how they were doing such a great job but now protests are "awful".

It's a rhetorical question, of course. The true answer is that you're a troll and an idiot. But I'm interested in your lame excuse.
 
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