Yup you’re totally right but people are lazy and eveyrhing is about how will that effect me now or who cares about next month what about now
COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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If FL's dashboard is correct, and their weekly news cases jumped from about 7.4K to 11.2K and their positivity rate dropped? Then at least they are doing a good job with testing.
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And of course you manage to bring in the President and Fox News into the conversation ...lol...you ‘re not a political guy yeah I get it ...we have news for you as much as we all would like a vaccine sooner than later... 18 months isn’t good enough ... It may be 24 or 36 months...hallelujah and pass the peas...admit it #’s we aren’t any closer ...so wear a mask and socially distance unless it suits someone’s agenda... this guy had good insight and was upfront as his opinion was from not my viewpoint but that of a person with that large pharmaceutical giant... one that is working hard and in in contact with others... maybe Biden will find the cure in his basement.
Anytime people are around each other there is going to be a chance for transmission.
But even in situations where people are around each other you can mitigate the level of spread by wearing masks. While I think the protests are dangerous in that they are such large gatherings of people, it did look pretty clear a high % of people were wearing masks, and they were outdoors
By the sounds of it, not many people in the south are wearing masks, even when they are indoors.
That to me is the take away. No the protests were not good in terms of stopping covid spread, but the outdoor effect is real, and masks work.
Now as noted above I also think it will take time for the protests to show up in the data in terms of new cases.
Even if half was wearing masks, there should be a bigger jump because I suspect the numbers are higher of number of protesters is more than what is announced. And the doctors/scientists who claim it might be weakening, they ain't using evidence? Honest question because I could tell you getting pissed by my suggestion it could be weakening.
I think more than half of protestors were wearing masks. Seemed to be at least 75%-80 percent on Tv.
When there is physical contact and no social distancing, I have a hard time believing that the masks are the sole difference in the lack of a spike. No doubt it plays a part, but the whole part or most of the part.
What have I said that would make you say that? Take your time.
I agree with you, but so far maybe the data shows otherwise. In 2 weeks from now, the answer will certainly be more clear either way.
Not pissed - just don't like misinformation. A couple of scientists have said they thought it was weakening without any evidence. A couple of large research groups have seen some mutations that look similar to what occurred in SARS, where that virus weakened, but didn't show any actual weakening (just speculated that it could happen). The vast majority of virologists have seen no evidence of the virus weakening yet. It certainly could happen and it would be great if it did, but there's currently zero actual evidence that the virus is weakening. Just look at transmissions and deaths going way up on South/Central America and starting to in parts of Asia/Africa. They're down in the US and Europe for clear reasons - lockdowns and interventions (and probably some treatment improvements).
I wasn't basing what I said as information but more as speculation. Like at the beginning of this epidemic I wonder here if one of the contributing factors was obesity because I couldn't help but notice how about 90% of the victims I saw in photos was clearly overweight. And today obesity looks like it's one of the major contributing factors.
Obviously. Claiming 50% were wearing masks is wishful thinking and completely without merit. And no one was keeping six feet a part. So, scrap the system and go out and live your best life people. Just like the rioters/“protestors”.
I think
It's unfortunate that dem's are not pushing harder that these protests are transmission points. But the fact that the politicians aren't doing so, doesn't mean that those gatherings aren't exactly that.
If that is the takeaway then we are screwed.
It's unfortunate that dem's are not pushing harder that these protests are transmission points. But the fact that the politicians aren't doing so, doesn't mean that those gatherings aren't exactly that.
My prediction
The media will focus on reporting a big spike in Oklahoma in the next few weeks
The media will focus on reporting a big spike in Oklahoma in the next few weeks
If it was then the NFL probably has the most unhealthiest work sector in America. Minus Sumo wrestling lol
I know plenty of people who are by definition overweight but are as healthy as a horse.
Well NFL offensive lines for sure, and interior D-men. Yeah those guys are pretty unhealthy relative to if they were skinnier. And you see it in many of those guys after they retire, but the job does require that they be humongous.
For us, the virus.
But it's been very predictable how and what the media and some Democrat elected officials will say along the way.
For a few weeks CV was an afterthought by the MSM and some Govenors like Murphy who Hypocritically defied their own edicts.
Protest having your livelihoods closed and 1st Amendment rights, GRANDMA KILLER
Protest George Floyd's homicide, ITS OK, YOURE EXERCISING YOUR RIGHTS
The double standards are easy to see coming.
You'll see, there will be elected officials and media activists that will start talking about Oklahoma when they've been silent with the recent protests.
What we see after they retire is the effects of a brutal sport played on to their bodies, but it has little to do with them being overweight though that's not saying it doesn't.
I call complete BS that getting groceries is a low risk. People remove masks or uncover their nose once inside and there is zero social distancing in the aisles.Risk assessment ratings by public health experts in Michigan on 36 various activities.
From the article:
“There’s a huge amount of variation from business to business, from area to area, in how much transmission risk there is for resuming economic activity,” Dr. Katherine Baicker, of the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy, told Yahoo Finance’s The Ticker.
An analysis by MLive chose 36 American activities and asked four public health experts in Michigan to evaluate the risk of coronavirus exposure for each one. The doctors factored in whether the activity is inside or outside, proximity to others, length of potential exposure, likelihood of compliance, and personal risk level.
The experts gave a score to each activity, with 1 being the least risky and 10 being the riskiest, and MLive averaged their scores to come up with a ranking.
Bars, large music concerts, and packed sports stadiums are the riskiest places, according to experts, because of large groups of people congregating together with little room to keep at least six feet apart.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-health-experts-ranked-activities-risk-132702304.html
I'm pretty skeptical of the FL dashboard.
Hopkins is showing an increase in positivty rate. 7 day moving average up to 4.8%.
According to that site it looks like they are actually testing less.
Hopkins is showing an increase in positivty rate. 7 day moving average up to 4.8%.
According to that site it looks like they are actually testing less.
Yet people in NJ go and get groceries with masks and our #'s have sharply decreased.
#Followthedata.
And Tucker, in the midst of a pandemic, huge protests, and a monster blowout day of the markets was going on about a twitter war involving the Harry Potter author.
Cable news sucks, we get it.
No they enter with masks. There is no law where they can be thrown out by removing it inside or uncovering their nose. #Followthefacts of real world. And social distancing in the aisles?? Sharply decreased numbers, no. Grocery workers are becoming positive at the exact same rate as before masks were required. Please stop the BS.
I guess it would depend on the station.
But the main culprits of cable news certainly win the suck competition.
There are numbers which track grocery store workers?
If thats true, it makes stronger mandates of masks, and wearing them correctly, all the more important.
Yes Wakefern, Acme etc are sharing their data among the stores. There was no spike at anytime nor improvement at at anytime before or after mandatory masks to enter. Employees in PA were required long before customers. There will be no new mandate to require them to continue a customer to wear them inside however from day 1 employees can be fired, union and management, if they are written up on multiple violations. We fired an overnight guy this week because of that and he was a tremendous worker. Never was within 20 feet of another night worker with no customers in the store. A outside vendor ratted him out. The number of positive employees on the night crew is zero. Sound fair or arbitrary??
I question your estimate of 75-80% wearing masks because it appears to be much less than that. Also, many weren't wearing masks that would protect from transmitting/receiving a virus. They were wearing loose handkerchiefs to cover their faces to conceal themselves and reduce the pepper spray that may be used by police.
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