How is the article "bunk" if it is using the same publicly available information that the hyperventilating media is seeing when the article was written? The article also discussed TX and CA stats. The big lib meda needs more watchdogs.
COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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I am not a chemical engineer (@RU848789 maybe you know), but I think making RNA should be easier than producing pure proteins like antigens or monoclonal antibodies. But even with being easier, they still will need to produce kilograms of the stuff!
This might be why the Chinese are largely focussing on "old school" approaches - grow the virus, attenuate or kill it and inject. My guess is that China will get a vaccine first, but our companies will make a lot more money (how is that for cynical?). I was told by a financial guy that Modern's valuation is at a point where they will need to earn $4.6 billion next year.
His argument was the "panic" was unfounded.
His main premise "which says it all" turned out to be completely wrong, thus his argument completely falls apart.
I agree the media, both sides, needs more watchdogs, but that guy is clearly not up to the task.
When the Rutgers football board is able to expose his article as completely unfounded, not just a little but completely, exposing that he does not understand how covid testing and reporting works, that guy loses all credibility.
Not sure why we are even still talking about it.
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Be careful with anything that doesn’t fit an agenda which is acceptable to the lib media... your posts can get deleted quickly even if it is fact and true... one way to impact lives of people they don’t agree with... politics is ok for some but not for others...
So you are saying the 192 new hospitalizations is a high number and 1000 in two weeks? Doesn’t seem overly excessive poindexter. Do you remember NY and NJ figures How many deaths?
The lead in the article said that there was 1 new covid admission on June 3rd. He stated that the trend of new covid admissions was trending downward.
As many speculated this was probably a lag in reporting, and as the AZ dashboard now shows, it was.
That was the lynchpin of his argument, he was completely wrong. Nothing to do with lib media.
The fact that he, and now you, are using this as "lib media" talking point says something about those who are quick to critique to lib media.
It is the trend that is so concerning.
If by this time next week there are 300 new cases in a day, around 2000 for the week, do you still not see the concern?
What if it continues to go up after that?
Should we wait until it gets to that point or try to get ahead of the curve?
This CE clown needs to be banned.
Again with these people posting graphs that have an obvious lag.
I figured this out weeks ago. Wtf?
I'm not up for banning people. But people need to get in line. Act like civilized human beings.
No not concerned at all... I was concerned during the protest and violence several weeks ago... it didn’t appear to concern particular groups specifically the protesters and violent looters... nor does it appear to bother the Mayor of New York , the Governor of New York and the news media . So at this moment n time it ‘s not anywhere near the totals we went through...I do all I can to wear a mask , socially distance and wash my hands... now tell me why I should worry after thousands disobeyed the directives at the beginning and still to this day... not my worry .
According to Worldometers Texas high in new cases prior to today was 2437, todays new cases is currently at 3973, and prominent counties have not yet reported.
The treatments need to get here quick.
Edit: Over 4400 new cases.
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If you want to argue with the looters, go argue with the looters.
And if there are any looters on this board, then you and that person should start a new thread and have at it.
Watching Gottlieb now.
dexamethodone? Or something like that, a steroid that has been around for awhile, works on the inflammatory response of the body. Can be used in conjunction with other drugs.
Big news on that, seems to have a big effect.
dexamethodone? Or something like that, a steroid that has been around for awhile, works on the inflammatory response of the body. Can be used in conjunction with other drugs.
Big news on that, seems to have a big effect.
His argument is hardly unfounded since the facts he had when he wrote the article were the same the media had at that time. That is indisputable. His premise is that covid case counts will go up in areas like the AZ, TX and Cali because more people are going to hospitals with more testing happening there.
Here's the main point of his article:"Thus, they are blaming the fallout of the lockdown on the easing of the lockdown!" You keep referring to the stats on AZ as his main premise for the article...that's not correct.
Anyway I'm not sure 58 new hospital cases with more people going to and getting tested hospitals in a state of almost 7.3MM makes any case for panic.
Read several reports on that. Steroids based products have helped asthmatics for many years. Including myself back in the 70s. It was my miracle drug. Saved me from a life long issue.
The guy, much like Laura Ingraham in her tweet above, doesn't understand the lag in allocating of #'s.
It was his lead argument. He was completely wrong on it. All the #'s in AZ are trending upward. They are way beyond their precovid capacity in terms of ICU beds. It has gotten worse since the article, it is only going to get worse moving fwd.
Let's move on from that article.
Again, he had the same numbers the media had--was someone in the media making the argument that a lag in testing results was suppressing the AZ case counts? I'll wait for more data over a longer period before I discount his argument.
As it works on the bodies response and not against the virus, it can be used with conjunction with drugs like remdesiver which does work against the virus.
And as it has been around awhile, it is cheap.
So I'm seeing spiking cases, but also seeing very good news on treatments. Brackish waters.
But he focused on numbers which were lagging and for all intensive purposes, innaccurate. While ignoring a bunch of other numbers which showed an increasing problem. In fact he thought the stats he focused on discredited the other stats. Incredibly poor reading of the stats.
I mean, man, you are in the lake on this one. Take the drop. Lets move fwd.
All states know when an ICU bed is in use, there is no lag here.
The states don't immediately know when a patient comes in if they have Covid. They can suspect it, and we see that in the stats(see covid like illness surveillance) , but they need to wait for test results to come in to confirm it. That is the lag.
The states don't immediately know when a patient comes in if they have Covid. They can suspect it, and we see that in the stats(see covid like illness surveillance) , but they need to wait for test results to come in to confirm it. That is the lag.
Again, who in the media based his/her panic premise on the lagging test theory, particularly when the AZ charts include "Positive or Suspected Inpatient COVID Cases"? Are you assuming that patients that were tested and the results are pending were not included in "Positive or Suspected Inpatient COVID Cases"? C'mon--you're just locked-in to your position and using a small % update in one stat chart as a strawman. Why can't you let go and move on if you think you're so right here?
Texas, 46 deaths reported on Worldometers. Big #? Not on it's surface, and maybe it is due in part to a back log of reporting.
But it is also it's biggest one day total since May 21st. And it's also in the midst of rising cases and rising hospitalizations. Logic seems to dictate that unless something changes in how Texas is going about it's day to day, all these #'s are going to increase going fwd. And they will likely increase, certainly in the near term, even if they tighten things up immediately.
But it is also it's biggest one day total since May 21st. And it's also in the midst of rising cases and rising hospitalizations. Logic seems to dictate that unless something changes in how Texas is going about it's day to day, all these #'s are going to increase going fwd. And they will likely increase, certainly in the near term, even if they tighten things up immediately.
And since this virus attacks the lungs it makes sense. The medicine I took was an inhaler of a powder substance. A pill put into a mini fan that would pop the capsule and I had to expell my lungs and breath it all in with one breath. When I say a miracle drug I'm not kidding. I had terrible asthma as a child until freshman year in HS. Would miss weeks of school at a time. Within months it was over. Forever.
The media is going off the results of tests. If on the 14th 4000 new reported cases come in, then that is a fixed number. Those tests may have been performed on the 10th, or the 11th, but the results come in on the 14th and that is the reported date. We do see back logs of reportings, so spikes on certain days, especially deaths on tuesdays, but we have come to expect these things, and the media typically notes this(even if not always in the headline).
But hospitals do not know immediately if a new patient is covid positive. Why? Tests take time, and the allocation of test results to previous days admissions takes even more time. Especially when a hospital is dealing with overwhelming new cases. Thus the lag. Horowitz and Ingraham were both unsophisticated enough to realize the lag, or were so sophisiticated as to present lagging information as representative of an actual trend. Either way, they don't look good posting those graphs as evidence of decreasing cases and deaths.
So I don't see the situations as comparable.
Hate to throw a scare at you, but a nurse practioner friend of mine was noting that sometimes the "underlying condition" related to covid deaths was HS asthma that has since not been an issue.
Wear your mask, keep people at distance.
Would like to think increase in testing, but at best that is only part of the answer. The virus spreads very rapidly, we've seen in multiple countries before, including our own.
I haven't had asthma conditions since I was 16. Over 40 years ago. Have to wear a mask at work but unfortunately social distancing isn't possible in a supermarket. Outside I'm good. No one can catch me on my bicycle!!
As I heard it, China is reporting it as "Euro strain" but the MSM outlet I heard it from scoffed at the suggestion.
Also heard they were reporting a hundred or something new cases. How accurate is that? I don't know, but we have seen asian countries like SK look to squash outbreaks very early.
Saw this on the Worldometers site today:
Texas: "The reported cases for June 16 include 2,622 new cases and 1,476 cases that were previously diagnosed among Texas Department of Criminal Justice inmates but that had not been reported by local health departments (887 from Anderson County and 589 from Brazoria County)."
Dexamethasone, a couple of pages back...
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-177#post-4610124
Yes it is. Nationwide testing has increased dramatically. Yet the percentage of positives has been under 5% for weeks with no spikes. People like to point out to specific small areas of "a spike" but nationally the fact is there isn't one. People have agendas so they cherry pick. The US is approaching 600k tests per day
Doubt this will be more than a temporary flare-up. They have the testing/tracing/isolating infrastructure in place to control it, plus, they're all wearing masks again (after some relaxation - which is only natural after 55 days without any cases).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...-chinas-second-wave-coronavirus/#222306a42311
Well certain states are dropping, like NJ while others are going up, like AZ and TX.
Look for yourself. Testing in Texas has been up a little, but not enough to justify the positive spikes.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas#historical
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