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COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...

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here is a dumb question, say someone making your food at a take out place had droplets come out and landed on your food....does a microwave kill that..just wondering how cooking food and heating food might play a role with the virus
Temperature is key. Viruses typically maintain activity on surfaces for several days at cool temps (<50F) and that activity rapidly decreases with an increase in temperature, becoming quickly deactivated above about 85F, which is just a bit above room temperature with regard to food (so even if there was a snot drip onto warm food, it would be deactivated). As a rule of thumb, I would only order takeout food that's warm and I'd decon the container it comes in with a disinfecting wipe. That's what we did with our pizza tonight. I'd shy away from cold foods, like subs. I'd rather buy pre-packaged cold cuts and make my own sub. Fresh fruits and vegetables should be ok if they're well washed.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/heal...will-burn-itself-out-in-about-6-months/679415
 
Wow. Crazy how the he’ll are people supposed to work and feel safe. Mostly everyone works with more then 50 people.
They mean all in one room, bar, restaurant, whatever, where people are usually withing 2-3 feet of each other, which is too close. In theory you could have a thousand people together, as long as everyone is 6 feet away from everyone else. At work with people in offices, cubes, labs, etc. keeping 6 feet away (needed for sneezes/coughs) or 3 feet away (no symptoms) shouldn't be that hard, except maybe in meeting rooms or the cafeteria, but practicing some common sense shouldn't be hard.
 
Doesn't apply to business. Thank you I only cut lawns.
you guys should be in great shape; planning to demolish my deck and put up a patio, which is something I never would've done myself before, but now I have time, lol, and my son wants to help and build a fire pit.
 
More cognitive dissonance, as Trump says, "relax, we're doing great...it all will pass." while Fauci said, "The worst is ahead for us”, describing the crisis as reaching a “very, very critical point now.” This continues to be a problem. The President needs to sound the alarm and talk about all the things we are doing and intend to do with regard to testing, social distancing, quarantining, disinfecting, behaviors, etc. Saying "relax, we're doing great" is absolutely incorrect and absolutely sends the wrong signal. This is not about politics, it's about setting an example for the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-relax-were-doing-great-expert-worst-to-come
 
This is scary. From Dr. Rafael Torres Director of Emergency Medicine at Westchester County Hospital, the epicenter for COVID-19 in NY. Supposedly posted on the NY Times Letters Section about the coming health care disaster in Westchester. Saw this on FB from a very good friend who is this doc's mother and he is listed as the Director of the ER there, so I'm sure this is legit.

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Rafael E Torres, MD
White Plains, NYMarch 14
Times Pick
I direct the busiest emergency department in Westchester County, the NYS epicenter of the pandemic. The virus is real and the results of infection can be devastating. The rate of patients presenting to us with symptoms concerning for COVID-19 has dramatically increased over the last 24 hours. Only a test result that will be available in 3 days will answer if we’re being alarmists, but I believe we’re at the precipice of a public health disaster. A country with vast resources will be overrun if we don’t stop the virus here and now. Please don’t let this area go unnoticed before it’s too late.
 
Not an encouraging stat

EDIT: Don't know if smoking/vaping might be more prevalent in France, hope that would explain the percentages of younger than 60 in ICU.

Actually thinking about it isn't vaping somewhat popular among the really younger population here? I wonder how much that might affect them should they contract the virus.

From CNN:

French measures: More than half of France's 300 coronavirus patients in intensive care are under the age of 60, according to the head of the country's national health agency. France has closed restaurants, cafes, cinemas and clubs, and issued a ban on large gatherings to contain the spread.
 
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Alot of people staying home around my complex. Many cars still in driveway like a holiday or weekend. Funny sight. They cornered off the one playground slide with yellow caution tape and now people arent lifting the top of the dumpsters to throw their garbage in. Its just left on the ground now.
 
The last several days, the only time I
Go out, is to walk at Roosevelt Park.
Then I realized I have been bringing
In the news paper. Do you think
That can be a problem? My wife and
I are well over 70 and have type 2 diabetes.
 
The last several days, the only time I
Go out, is to walk at Roosevelt Park.
Then I realized I have been bringing
In the news paper. Do you think
That can be a problem? My wife and
I are well over 70 and have type 2 diabetes.
The newspaper is available online and with even more up to date news than is in print. I know its a hard habit to kick for some, but if you're worried about it, it's worth changing some habits to mitigate that worry.
 
Call me a skeptic, but I don't trust that this virus most negatively impacts the elderly or those with pre-existing conditions. Starting to see stories of healthy people in 30's, 40's being admitted to ER. NYT Story Sunday about 2 ER Nurses in China, age 29, one survived and one recovered. The story was sobering reminder of what this virus can do to an otherwise healthly person.
 
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Call me a skeptic, but I don't trust that this virus most negatively impacts the elderly or those with pre-existing conditions. Starting to see stories of healthy people in 30's, 40's being admitted to ER. NYT Story Sunday about 2 ER Nurses in China, age 29, one survived and one recovered. The story was sobering reminder of what this virus can do to an otherwise healthly person.
No one said it doesn't effect the young, just that they tend to recover from it while those over 60 have a harder time and make up most of the fatalities.
 
Call me a skeptic, but I don't trust that this virus most negatively impacts the elderly or those with pre-existing conditions. Starting to see stories of healthy people in 30's, 40's being admitted to ER. NYT Story Sunday about 2 ER Nurses in China, age 29, one survived and one recovered. The story was sobering reminder of what this virus can do to an otherwise healthly person.
Posted above that more than 1/2 the 300 cases in the ICU in France were people under 60. I’m not sure how prevalent smoking is in France as a possible explanation or at least was hoping that might be the case.
 
Yup I posted above in this thread and in another thread below. Thought it was a good, even if simple, illustration of how social distancing can flatten the curve.

Oh ok. Sorry for dup. One interesting simulation would be Social Distancing + Controlled Quarantine, which I believe is what is happening now with Teaneck, Hoboken, etc.

Update: Curfew
 
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Governor Murphy announces statewide curfew of 8 p.m. to 5 a.m.


this is actually going to cause more social crowding as people rush to the stories in that timeframe....I know what he is trying to do but its actually forcing people to do there activities in a set time and yes 8 PM is absurd considering there are some people working and then need to find the time to get to the store which is already crowded and out of shit.
 
Wonder what can stay open besides food stores gas stations pharmacies? How about banks, stores like Home Depot
 
this is actually going to cause more social crowding as people rush to the stories in that timeframe....I know what he is trying to do but its actually forcing people to do there activities in a set time and yes 8 PM is absurd considering there are some people working and then need to find the time to get to the store which is already crowded and out of shit.
It’s sounds more like discouraging late non essential travel rather than ordering. Besides as of now I didn’t see anything about groceries and pharmacies being closed at 8pm. Some have shortened their hours but not that short. Grocery story run might even be considered somewhat essential if you’re not free at other points in the day.

So I know you like to make make your late runs to the market and I still think you can and this may even reduce those late crowds for you even more because some may interpret like you just did and not go late anymore. However it seems like you still can from what’s out there currently.
 
Governor Murphy announcing COVID-19 measures to try to help contain the virus. Governer Cuomo of NY announced similar measures today, as did the Governor of CT and several other states. Good to see. Better late than never, but we need more and we need Federal help and aren't getting it.



https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...ompts-statewide-curfew-gov-murphy/5057576002/

New Jerseyans should not leave their homes from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m., as Gov. Phil Murphy announced an extraordinary action of recommending a statewide curfew for his 9 million residents to attempt to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus.

All casinos, restaurants, bars, movie theaters and gyms must shut down at 8 p.m. Monday and will remain closed until further notice in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut, the three governors announced Monday. These businesses should not reopen until the state governments say so.

"Everyone needs to stay in and be safe," Murphy said in a phone call with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont to announce the new restrictions. “And we can’t say this enough, that everyone needs to stay in and be safe and just because you don’t feel sick, and this is a particular shout-out to our young people, it doesn’t mean you aren’t carrying the virus. And the last thing that anyone should be thinking about is going out and spreading the disease.”

On Monday, Murphy also ordered all public and private schools, universities and colleges to close statewide starting Wednesday, March 18. The schools will stay closed "until such time is deemed by health officials to be safe for classes to resume," he said.

is also expected to detail plans to close schools statewide Monday afternoon.

In New Jersey, more than 100 people have tested positive for COVID-19 after Bergen County announced 13 additional cases Monday. At least two people have died as of Sunday.
 
Why not allow the gyms to stay open from noon to 5 pm,a time when there usually aren't more than 50 people using them?

Did San Francisco close the bathhouses?
 
Governor Murphy announcing COVID-19 measures to try to help contain the virus. Governer Cuomo of NY announced similar measures today, as did the Governor of CT and several other states. Good to see. Better late than never, but we need more and we need Federal help and aren't getting it.



https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...ompts-statewide-curfew-gov-murphy/5057576002/

New Jerseyans should not leave their homes from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m., as Gov. Phil Murphy announced an extraordinary action of recommending a statewide curfew for his 9 million residents to attempt to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus.

All casinos, restaurants, bars, movie theaters and gyms must shut down at 8 p.m. Monday and will remain closed until further notice in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut, the three governors announced Monday. These businesses should not reopen until the state governments say so.

"Everyone needs to stay in and be safe," Murphy said in a phone call with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont to announce the new restrictions. “And we can’t say this enough, that everyone needs to stay in and be safe and just because you don’t feel sick, and this is a particular shout-out to our young people, it doesn’t mean you aren’t carrying the virus. And the last thing that anyone should be thinking about is going out and spreading the disease.”

On Monday, Murphy also ordered all public and private schools, universities and colleges to close statewide starting Wednesday, March 18. The schools will stay closed "until such time is deemed by health officials to be safe for classes to resume," he said.

is also expected to detail plans to close schools statewide Monday afternoon.

In New Jersey, more than 100 people have tested positive for COVID-19 after Bergen County announced 13 additional cases Monday. At least two people have died as of Sunday.


I'm disappointed. Where is his "full stop"?
 
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