He didn't read through every post, I could care less what the CE folks have to say. Their agenda is clear.LOL everyone else--including ###s apparently--is wrong about you.:flush:
He didn't read through every post, I could care less what the CE folks have to say. Their agenda is clear.LOL everyone else--including ###s apparently--is wrong about you.:flush:
You gotta think the protests have something to do with the spiking right?
So everything you like that Murphy does is based on science but everything you don't like that he does is just him doing what he wants for his own reasons? Do I have that right?
Not when you look at positivity rate. FL at 13% on the 7 day rolling average. CA is at 5.6 %.interesting why you say Florida when California appears to be in worse shape
Another Horowitz article? That dude has whiffed badly on his two previous articles, so I'll assume this is another whiff.Cant tell yet about the riots/protests. But the heat is causing people to go indoors so you get more spread that way. It looks like the CV version in warms states is the more infectious but less lethal CV. Young people are more positive but the morgues aren't filling-up.
However, there is a CV problem in Central America, South America and Mexico. They are worse than stats show and stats look bad. Invasions from there making US problems worse in border counties.
Most serious surge in virus cases? Coming across the Mexican border
https://www.conservativereview.com/...rge-virus-cases-coming-across-mexican-border/
I've read about 5 different prominent "Murphy will" predictions that have proven wrong, including a "Murphy will keep schools closed" just yesterday. Yet the drum beat continues.i dont use a spotter but it wont matter, Murphy will keep the gyms closed all summer and then through the fall and winter when the 2nd wave hits
Great posts. I am a type 2 diabetic, high bp (now controlled) was obese. Inflammation for sure; bleeding gums, rosacea, clogged arteries, sore kidneys. But what caused the inflammation? sugar/bad carbs. what caused the lust for sugar/bad carbs for me? stress; silent killer. I chose sugar as my escape. Others do drugs, smoke, drink, gamble, etc. It's easy to be obese in this country. Maybe this virus will wake some people up regarding the weight and general health.I'll add two clinical observations related to obesity and inflammation to underscore their importance in overall health. Cardiologists know that inflammation can manifest as seemingly minor observances like gingivitis because they know that this can be a picture into heart health and will typically extol the virtues of good oral hygiene. Clinically, in the ICU it is also known that obese patients with a short, thick neck have more trouble extubating in a timely fashion. Make no mistake, their is a bigger link between covid infection/mortality rates and our diet in the US than we have acknowledged thus far.
Rise above it.Fair--but you must see the obvious reality of which side instigates the bickering and insults.
I've read about 5 different prominent "Murphy will" predictions that have proven wrong, including a "Murphy will keep schools closed" just yesterday. Yet the drum beat continues.
Not when you look at positivity rate. FL at 13% on the 7 day rolling average. CA is at 5.6 %.
California has gotten there testing up near 100K people per day.
John Hopkins says FL tested 50K yesterday, but is typically in the mid 20's.
It's true CA has it's own issues, but no, CA is not in worse shape.
Another Horowitz article? That dude has whiffed badly on his two previous articles, so I'll assume this is another whiff.
But it is useful it highlights the shift in argument, from: Covid is not a big deal, to: Yes it's a big deal but it's really a Mexico/Latino/protestor issue.
Like I said this guy could not have been more wrong on the 2 recent articles which were posted here, highlighted by his inability to understand the data he is looking at, thus, I'm not bothering with this one.
25 percent of cases just in recent days in CA..wow
That chart shows the US's recent new cases trending upward faster then Mexico's.You're being ignorant. My focus was the charts that clearly show US and Mexico tracking with each other. Horowitz and chart = pea/pod
And Florida is worse.25 percent of cases just in recent days in CA..wow
And the protests are raging on.25 percent of cases just in recent days in CA..wow
I wouldn't have much faith in the accuracy of their numbers either. They clearly test nowhere near what we do. But I didn't bring Mexico, nor that chart, into the discussion.Mexico’s testing lol
Again, note how the argument has changed from: Covid is not that bad, to: Yes Covid is bad, but it's the protestors fault.And the protests are raging on.
And the protests are raging on.
Again, note how the argument has changed from: Covid is not that bad, to: Yes Covid is bad, but it's the protestors fault.
Never mind we've already gone over the #'s. Doesn't seem to be much correlation between protests and increase in cases.
Flatten the curve is part of it but holding the R0 factor below 1 is also cause then the idea is it will be snuffed out eventually if you can maintain that line.how do you know..its not like they are allowed to ask...special privileges
anyhow the northeast didnt see the spike from protestors because maybe coronavirus has been beaten back down here while it was still active in other places. Just throwing that out there, not all riots and protests were the same.
the fact was we were always going to have spikes to deal with, the whole idea originally was to flatten the curve, now apparently its to make sure there are no cases anymore
we are going to have to deal with this Wuhan Flu, it isnt going away, the last few weeks tells us that. We have only been shut down for 3 months, imagine another 9 months....the dam will break in many facets of life
He promised to go to Canada after the 2017 electionMove
No you are just one person trying to derail this thread into a CE board but used 2 different screen names. 2 names just one idiot.You and others claiming I am someone else and Bob calling me names.
Proof? Or another one of your claims that you make up, like masks don't work?No you are just one person trying to derail this thread into a CE board but used 2 different screen names. 2 names just one idiot.
States are spiking right now, way beyond the acceptable level.how do you know..its not like they are allowed to ask...special privileges
anyhow the northeast didnt see the spike from protestors because maybe coronavirus has been beaten back down here while it was still active in other places. Just throwing that out there, not all riots and protests were the same.
the fact was we were always going to have spikes to deal with, the whole idea originally was to flatten the curve, now apparently its to make sure there are no cases anymore
we are going to have to deal with this Wuhan Flu, it isnt going away, the last few weeks tells us that. We have only been shut down for 3 months, imagine another 9 months....the dam will break in many facets of life
No, you have failed to grasp anything I've written. I never said obesity wasn't an issue, just that it's a minor issue when comparing South Korea to the US and death rates per capita. Again, if we had South Korea's 6 deaths per 1MM, due to far, far fewer cases (resulting from much better interventions), we'd have about 2000 deaths not 125,000 deaths. Even if we threw in the BMI multiplier of 2X, which was not out of thin air at all (very unlikely greater than that based on the linked study which shows hazard ratios for mortality of 1.27-2.27 depending on the level of BMI) that's 4000 deaths, as I said. It's pretty obvious that success of interventions to reduce transmissions and deaths is far, far more important than obesity or other risk factors. Pointing out that you don't know what you're talking about isn't really a personal attack - it's simply a service to the community.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.06.20092999v1.full.pdf
If you can't tell that this is a garbage post not fit for this discussion then.........
States are spiking right now, way beyond the acceptable level.
As per the protests and whether they have much effect on the case #'s? See NY. Edit; I see you mentioned NY. Aight, but if CA was the epicenter of the protests, why is Florida doing worse?
The states that are spiking right now were rising before the protests.
Lol there is logic and reasoning and tons of posters have pointed it out to you. Shared equipment, indoor space, heavy breathing, and many outbreaks from South Korea occurred in these places. How many times do we have to repeat it? Just because you don't like the logic doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You don't seem to care about people dying from this just business that are harmed. You just go on and on about how lockdowns bad, meanwhile they saved hundreds of thousands of lives, brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers, and children.
Is this all some sort of protest to get the CE board back open?
I'm in favor.
This thread lost all credibility 10 pages agoIf you can't tell that this is a garbage post not fit for this discussion then.........
why is California spiking big time
Yeah, some meme about Mexico's testing being some sort of snack food taste test. Good solid serious discussion points.not really, its all part of the coronavirus discussion.
Was that when people were acting like there was no issue in states like Texas and Florida?This thread lost all credibility 10 pages ago
Yes I have proof. Just like Formally your reading comprehension skills suck. I said masks don't work outdoors because of the wind factor. Please stop the nonsense. Everyone knows who you are. Stop bringing politics into this thread!!Proof? Or another one of your claims that you make up, like masks don't work?
Was that when people were acting like there was no issue in states like Texas and Florida?
Testing is one reason. And the protests are likely a contributor, to what extent I do not know.why is California spiking big time
Oh yeah, that unnecessary precaution really caused a lot of pain in this country.maybe it was when someone was telling people to wash their fruit with soap, just saying