ADVERTISEMENT

COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...

Status
Not open for further replies.
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020...avirus-spread-based-on-study-murphy-says.html

So what Murphy just said (and I'm paraphrasing) is that there will be no indoor dining until there is a vaccine.

He's shell-shocked from the huge number of deaths in NJ. I get it.
But there's no reason NJ cant have indoor dining with social distancing and mask restrictions.
We went out for dinner last Thursday (here in NH). About 1/3 of the tables were in use. All staff wore masks. Everyone wore masks except once seated and eating. They sanitized the pepper grinder that I asked for (they don't leave that stuff on the table like they used to).
I felt perfectly safe.
No reason that NJ couldn't do the same thing.
 
I think your problem is you are looking for an end game when there is no end to the game in sight.

I think Murphy is trying to keep the #'s as low as possible as we enter the fall, ie the start of cold and flu season.

And by doing so he is condemning most gyms and restaurants in the state plus keeping people on unemployment.
 
I think your problem is you are looking for an end game when there is no end to the game in sight.

I think Murphy is trying to keep the #'s as low as possible as we enter the fall, ie the start of cold and flu season.
You mean the start of election season?

Look, I think the majority of the constant whacko posts in this thread are annoying. At the same time, what's the path forward here? Are we locked at home until NJ cases go to zero? Until a vaccine is available? Until everyone has been vaccinated? I'd settle for at least a plan or a figure / metric to indicate what happens.
 
You mean the start of election season?

Look, I think the majority of the constant whacko posts in this thread are annoying. At the same time, what's the path forward here? Are we locked at home until NJ cases go to zero? Until a vaccine is available? Until everyone has been vaccinated? I'd settle for at least a plan or a figure / metric to indicate what happens.

First I'd note we are not locked at home. As I noted somewhere above, NJ is not on lockdown. On the other end of the spectrum, no state is fully open.

I'd be more aggressive then Murphy, I've been saying this for months, but at the same time, we do need to be aware that cold and flu season is ahead of us. If you go into that time with a fair amount of virus present it could run wild again.
 
And by doing so he is condemning most gyms and restaurants in the state plus keeping people on unemployment.
Are people on unemployment really fretting it?

As I note above, I'd be more aggressive in reopening, but we've also seen the reddest of red states have to delay or even roll back their reopenings. I think some want to make it out as if their are no ramifications to opening up certain segments of the economy.

I think the cure for the most vulnerable of businesses comes from the federal level via PPE. This $1200 stimulus, and the executive order tax cut is just not targeting those who need the most help.
 
You mean the start of election season?

Look, I think the majority of the constant whacko posts in this thread are annoying. At the same time, what's the path forward here? Are we locked at home until NJ cases go to zero? Until a vaccine is available? Until everyone has been vaccinated? I'd settle for at least a plan or a figure / metric to indicate what happens.


thank you for this post....all I want is people to start asking questions..endgame, plans, what is Murphy's threshold, with very little cases and deaths its very bizarre what is going on with him right now...then with vaccines, its likely that we are nowhere near going back to normal even with a vaccine...why dont they start telling us that
 
  • Like
Reactions: RU Cheese
I think your problem is you are looking for an end game when there is no end to the game in sight.

I think Murphy is trying to keep the #'s as low as possible as we enter the fall, ie the start of cold and flu season.


the end game would seem to be no cases and no chances for spread, he thinks peeps are not getting together in large numbers..newsflash..they are, there are far more than the ones you are hearing about, one of our customers had a wedding at their house on Friday and it rained...gasp, they had to go inside
 
Murphy is trying to claim the lowered RT is because of his order last week and that people are listening and not congregating at house parties...does he really believe we are that stupid...apparently his supporters believe anything he says.

as if it drops in one week because of his admonishment all the while we keep hearing of house parties around the state
 
The numbers in NJ support reopening EVERYTHING. The worst is far behind us. The numbers will never approach April again. Hospitals are near empty. Time to stop the madness.


How is PA open for indoor restaurants and gyms and NJ isnt.....what data does Gov Wolf use
 
Murphy is trying to claim the lowered RT is because of his order last week and that people are listening and not congregating at house parties...does he really believe we are that stupid...apparently his supporters believe anything he says.

as if it drops in one week because of his admonishment all the while we keep hearing of house parties around the state
The large indoor house parties, even if more common then reported, are not equivalent to indoor bars having large gatherings multiple times a week, week after week.
 
thank you for this post....all I want is people to start asking questions..endgame, plans, what is Murphy's threshold, with very little cases and deaths its very bizarre what is going on with him right now...then with vaccines, its likely that we are nowhere near going back to normal even with a vaccine...why dont they start telling us that
Because if we tell you the truth you'll start fighting back. We'd rather keep you in the dark.
 
  • Like
Reactions: thegock and Kbee3
Murphy is trying to claim the lowered RT is because of his order last week and that people are listening and not congregating at house parties...does he really believe we are that stupid...apparently his supporters believe anything he says.

as if it drops in one week because of his admonishment all the while we keep hearing of house parties around the state
oh the irony from a guy who follows HCQ man, 15 cases soon to be 0. Some other leader is claiming every good week we have had is because of him, and every bad week is because there are some bad governors
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kbee3
I think your problem is you are looking for an end game when there is no end to the game in sight.

I think Murphy is trying to keep the #'s as low as possible as we enter the fall, ie the start of cold and flu season.
That was never the reason for restrictions. Never. The spread has come to a near stop. No one, I mean no one in the world knows there will be even a fall return in the US. This crap didn't get here till winter anyway. Why are you sure or Murphy is sure that it will come 4 months earlier??. That is a complete bullcrap answer and reason. The curve has flattened to nothing. Yet NJ is still in panic mode. There isn't one logical reason not to reopen.
 
How is PA open for indoor restaurants and gyms and NJ isnt.....what data does Gov Wolf use
EXACTLY! Murphy's has no metric. It’s all subjective. For the good of NJ look past the political agenda and do the right thing. Zero deaths yesterday and hospitalizations at tracking lows.
 
How is PA open for indoor restaurants and gyms and NJ isnt.....what data does Gov Wolf use
Yeah but I have Mayor Kenny who has kept restaurants closed indoors. No gyms. Long lines at any mom and pop store because of restrictions however big box stores no limit.
Was at Monmouth Park yesterday. Empty because of restrictions. Had a great time with lifelong friends but the money the track is losing is staggering. Can't eat or drink indoors. The place is massive easily can keep people 10+ feet apart.
 
Because if we tell you the truth you'll start fighting back. We'd rather keep you in the dark.


The Cabal has its wheels turning. Covid 19, shelter in place , obey mask orders, unemployment compensation, coin shortage, riots, protests, vaccines with chips to track your every move, 5G towers. You laugh till the day no one is left to listen.
 
The Cabal has its wheels turning. Covid 19, shelter in place , obey mask orders, unemployment compensation, coin shortage, riots, protests, vaccines with chips to track your every move, 5G towers. You laugh till the day no one is left to listen.
@Greg2020 is a banned CE and TKR troll under a "former". The mods know this yet they keep letting him post. Never posts facts just stirs the pot.
 
The Cabal has its wheels turning. Covid 19, shelter in place , obey mask orders, unemployment compensation, coin shortage, riots, protests, vaccines with chips to track your every move, 5G towers. You laugh till the day no one is left to listen.
bro-i-dont-think-the-drugs-are-working-c-6791516.png
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT