Assuming I'm reading your intent through that word jumble ..no, not at all.
COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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Assuming I'm reading your intent through that word jumble ..no, not at all.
Because what? Controlling the virus is more valued by the electorate? Does the electorate not care about businesses that are in jeopardy?
Some are and some are not. I know some who make very little who are making more on unemployment, I also know those who are making much less than at their jobs. Then there are those who actually like to work, get fulfillment from work and can't handle doing nothing. The PPP money only covered 8 weeks and most of that was suppose to go to employee pay. In some cases, because of the unemployment benefits, employees could not get employees to come back, so the PPP money was useless.
I post facts all the time, you just complain and say they're fake. Still waiting on that Belgium source. Proof that I have a "former"?
He doesn't get it or won't listen and hasn't since this started. His MO is to whine about his pet topics, call Murphy names, and post poorly sourced Twitter posts. I get that he's pissed about gyms, restaurants and other things - we're all pissed at the situation, but his approach has not been very constructive. It detracts from the usefulness of the thread. He'll likely call me names for making this post.
Aren't you religious? Do you pray? Would you like to rephrase that?
More to help convince the doubters about masks, as observations from both Tennessee and Kansas show that counties with mandatory mask orders have significantly less cases than counties without such orders. Of course in a perfect world we'd have more granular data on exactly how many people were wearing masks and several other factors, but even in the absence of that, the likelihood that this result is due to chance or some unexplained other factor is low, especially given the mountain of evidence we have that masks significantly help reduce transmissions.
https://www.timesfreepress.com/news...izations-200-arewi/529494/#/questions/2791802
Hospitals that primarily treated patients from areas without mask requirements on average saw a more than 200% increase in hospitalized COVID-19 patients since July 1, while hospitals that treat more patients from areas of the state with face mask requirements have seen their number of coronavirus patients stabilize or decline.
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244839757.html
The state’s 15 counties with mandatory mask orders — including Wyandotte and Johnson counties in the Kansas City area — have seen a greater decline in coronavirus cases than the remaining 90 counties that don’t mandate them.
Since July 12, not long after counties were given the option of accepting or rejecting Gov. Laura Kelly’s mask mandate, those with mask orders have seen cases decline from about 26 to 16 per 100,000 population. Cases in counties with no mask mandate have stayed relatively flat.
https://www.timesfreepress.com/news...izations-200-arewi/529494/#/questions/2791802
Hospitals that primarily treated patients from areas without mask requirements on average saw a more than 200% increase in hospitalized COVID-19 patients since July 1, while hospitals that treat more patients from areas of the state with face mask requirements have seen their number of coronavirus patients stabilize or decline.
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244839757.html
The state’s 15 counties with mandatory mask orders — including Wyandotte and Johnson counties in the Kansas City area — have seen a greater decline in coronavirus cases than the remaining 90 counties that don’t mandate them.
Since July 12, not long after counties were given the option of accepting or rejecting Gov. Laura Kelly’s mask mandate, those with mask orders have seen cases decline from about 26 to 16 per 100,000 population. Cases in counties with no mask mandate have stayed relatively flat.
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Superb ~35 minute video presentation on the status of vaccine development across the globe by Florian Krammer, one of the world's foremost virologists, who is at Mt. Sinai and whose papers/tweets I've shared a few times before. His lab is the one that showed that recovered COVID patients (thousands) had very good levels of neutralizing antibodies 3+ months after recovery, which is great news for longer term immunity (and a Chinese study showed similar levels after 6 months).
In the video he surveys the entire landscape of 100+ vaccines under development and then drills down to the major ones we've heard a lot about, including excellent discussions of results from primate challenge studies, as well as phase I/II clinical results to date (for CanSino, Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, Oxford/Astra-Zeneca, and Novavax). He thinks great progress is being made and is very happy there are so many candidates, since he knows some might fail at phase III. Some good Q&A after the presentation also.
https://hhmi.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=9be1b267-f975-4a6e-9544-ac100134313a
In the video he surveys the entire landscape of 100+ vaccines under development and then drills down to the major ones we've heard a lot about, including excellent discussions of results from primate challenge studies, as well as phase I/II clinical results to date (for CanSino, Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, Oxford/Astra-Zeneca, and Novavax). He thinks great progress is being made and is very happy there are so many candidates, since he knows some might fail at phase III. Some good Q&A after the presentation also.
https://hhmi.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=9be1b267-f975-4a6e-9544-ac100134313a
Article touching on a person's vaccine history possibly helping train the immune system to fight diseases like COVID and aid in reducing severe effects.
From the article:
One of those mysteries: why the experience can be so vastly different from person to person. One expert says the answer may mean taking a closer look at previous vaccines individuals have had.
"When we looked in the setting of Covid disease, we found that people who had prior vaccinations with a variety of vaccines -- for pneumococcus, influenza, hepatitis and others -- appeared to have a lower risk of getting Covid disease," Dr. Andrew Badley, an infectious disease specialist at Mayo Clinic told CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday night.
It's what immunologists call immune training: how your immune system creates an effective response to fight off infections, Badley says.
"A good analogy is to think of your immune system as being a muscle," he said. "The more you exercise that muscle, the stronger it will be when you need it."
There's been no definitive evidence of any other vaccines boosting immunity against Covid-19. But some researchers have suggested it's possible.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html
From the article:
One of those mysteries: why the experience can be so vastly different from person to person. One expert says the answer may mean taking a closer look at previous vaccines individuals have had.
"When we looked in the setting of Covid disease, we found that people who had prior vaccinations with a variety of vaccines -- for pneumococcus, influenza, hepatitis and others -- appeared to have a lower risk of getting Covid disease," Dr. Andrew Badley, an infectious disease specialist at Mayo Clinic told CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday night.
It's what immunologists call immune training: how your immune system creates an effective response to fight off infections, Badley says.
"A good analogy is to think of your immune system as being a muscle," he said. "The more you exercise that muscle, the stronger it will be when you need it."
There's been no definitive evidence of any other vaccines boosting immunity against Covid-19. But some researchers have suggested it's possible.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html
The way I am wearing a mask is no big deal.
I think it is a problem going to events and wearing a mask but right now in and out of stores or putting it on when you come within a certain distance from someone you are not generally around is no big deal
Nobody is wearing a mask once a vaccine comes out. That’s mentioned in that article. Although I hope people that are sick with any virus keep this habit if they do need to venture out of the house.
Yeah it's no big deal for you or me.
But for the people who work in the store and have to wear a mask all day long it's a much bigger deal.
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
Not saying masks should not be used.
I agree but there have always been certain jobs where people had to wear something that is uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time.
High prevalence of hypovitaminosis D was found in COVID-19 patients with acute respiratory failure, treated in a RICU. Patients with severe vitamin D deficiency had a significantly higher mortality risk. Severe vitamin D deficiency may be a marker of poor prognosis in these patients, suggesting that adjunctive treatment might improve disease outcomes.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40618-020-01370-x
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40618-020-01370-x
You are wrong..we definitely will. Most doctors are saying..it will take a long time of vaccine application before anything gets lifted
Common sense
Those articles don’t say there are less cases. It says the rate of cases is different. Maybe the urban areas are declining more rapidly because people who are most at risk due to behavior or other factors have already been exposed whereas in rural areas they have not. Also if rural area cases are low higher percentage increases are to be expected and may not really be very meaningful . I favor mask wearing inside but these articles as written don’t prove anything.
The article says years. There won’t be broad mask use for years. There is barely broad use now in many places. Next summer you won’t see many masks.
Its surprising or not someone so scienced based and peer review is posting an opinion piece article from the Kansas City Star
I appreciate the efforts to find and post articles on the importance of donning a mask. Other than driving the point home to those unwilling to believe, completing studies on wearing masks is a waste of time. It's such a basic principle. Using a barrier helps prevent expulsion of the virus into the general area and reduces incidence of transmission.
People will still wear masks after a vaccine is developed IMO. The numbers may be less but this virus is no common cold or flu. Until the medical community knows more about the virus, develops absolute effective treatments and a hands down vaccine with high efficacy rates, people will (and should) continue to be cautious. The easiest way to do that is social distancing and wearing a mask when close.
Interesting read and a significant mortality difference in the two subsets. I would assume there will be larger studies on hypovitaminosis D in the near future.
Pretty sure they just shut down Auckland not the whole country. For those 102 days they had bars, and fans in the stands. New Zealand is amazing we suck.
#Move.
How Geography Helped New Zealand Beat Coronavirus
Because New Zealand is an island, it had some inherent advantages that helped with the fight against COVID-19. With no land-based entry points, the country has an easier time monitoring who comes in and out of the country. The mountainous terrain also limits where people live. If you look at the topographic map at the beginning of this article and compare it with where people live (below), you see what I am talking about. According to the New Zealand government website, population density is low - “....with an area of 271,000 square kilometres....Consequently, its population density is relatively low, at 15 people per square kilometre – less than half the OECD average and higher than only Australia, Iceland, Canada and Norway.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marsha...ed-new-zealand-beat-coronavirus/#4d17be234215
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You're right they did, but I still think its an overreaction, but this is a country that is prone to doing that, living scared. But I would not compare us to them, they're an island that makes it easier to control diseases, we're nothing close to them.
New Zealand is a proud country. I wouldn't say they are living scared. They ddi the right things and reaped the rewards. I agree we can't compare the USA to them though.
Thank you for this post. It's helpful, actionable and, even if the hypothesis turns out to be not true, taking a little extra prophylactic(?) dose of Vitamin D can't be all that bad! Especially when so many people are low-borderline on their Vit. D levels anyway.
I'll also say that it's good to see something unrelated to HCQ from you. You used to add a lot of good content and debate to the thread that preceded this one. Am glad you're back.
Like the fact that CV has a 5% mortality rate? I'd file that under "fake"...
Edit: I posted the wrong information earlier, not realizing how the dashboard presents new cases by date. 498 new positives today.
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