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That's actually crazier.

Also, it fails. If he wanted to do that, he'd have more than two things restricted. Restricting indoor dining and gyms ...what a power high 😂😂

So why is he doing it while 4 surrounding states have..only philly dining and nyc gyms/dining have restrictions
 
This has to be kept alive for obvious reason.
There were a couple states ready to change the narrative a couple months back, but as it turned out they only reinforced the narrative.

Now I do believe those same states will test the "20% herd immunity" theory in coming months. It didn't turn out well the first time, I do hope it turns out much better this next time around.
 
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What political reasons would that be? You think he is intentionally trying to ruin people’s live by not opening businesses just to potentially hurt Trump? One, that is insane. Two, no matter what he does Trump will not win NJ. You can disagree with his decisions but he is gaining nothing politically by doing this.
Sure Trump isn't winning NJ but there are House races too (forget the NJ Senate race-Booker will win in a landslide ugh). The more Trump can be blamed for all the misery the higher the likelihood of running the table for Ds across the ballot.
 
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So why is he doing it while 4 surrounding states have..only philly dining and nyc gyms/dining have restrictions

Believe it or not, I agree with you at this point. Seems time to try opening those things up in some form. I've never been a gym guy, but understand they are integral and irreplaceable for someone who's there all the time. And promoting health and well-being should be a priority.

No idea why he's holding out on those two, but it's really not a strong power play, nor is it going to affect the election in a way positive to D's. My guess is more fear, fear that those two will topple the precarious balance he has going and send things right back to April. But if the virus starts gaining steam as summer fades away toward winter, that's going to happen. Gotta at least try it in the window you have now.

Just not seeing any nefarious agenda.
 
Believe it or not, I agree with you at this point. Seems time to try opening those things up in some form. I've never been a gym guy, but understand they are integral and irreplaceable for someone who's there all the time. And promoting health and well-being should be a priority.

No idea why he's holding out on those two, but it's really not a strong power play, nor is it going to affect the election in a way positive to D's. My guess is more fear, fear that those two will topple the precarious balance he has going and send things right back to April. But if the virus starts gaining steam as summer fades away toward winter, that's going to happen. Gotta at least try it in the window you have now.

Just not seeing any nefarious agenda.


The Iluminati will decide when the virus is over.
 
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I literally just agreed with your whole point for being here, King of PMS.

Also, you still f-ed up the quote ...lmao. Did Covid eat your brain; you seriously just need to push a button.
 
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sturgis update coronavirus cases in three states.

US coronavirus death on WorldMeter passed 180,000 today.

How about updates from the protest areas too to keep things balanced?
 
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Interesting experiment just run in Germany, looking at a 3 versions of an indoor concert, simulating no controls, some controls and full controls (masks/distancing) in an attempt to determine the potential impact of these controls on viral transmission. To assess that, they tracked all movements and used fluorescent hand sanitizer to see what/who people touched.

They used 1500 volunteers, aged 18-50, with all of them tested to be PCR negative before the experiments (all run on the same day). The article doesn't say it, but I hope they're also going to track these people for the next few weeks, as there might have been be a few asymptomatic or presymptomatic people in each crowd who tested negative, but were still infectious.

 
I saw Trump said something about the ‘deep state’ sandbagging the vaccine

That’s not a winning take for him; I learned from these boards that his base wants nothing to do with a vaccine.

But I say call his bluff: congress and the president should eliminate the FDA approval process, but leave the manufacturers liable for vaccine-related injury or death. Then we’ll see when we get the vaccine.
Big Pharma would never ditch their liability protection.
 
There's a pretty large crowd in Times Square tonight.People are getting tired of this treatment.MLK Day is a lot closer than was St.Patrick's Day,the 1st day of this nightmare.
 
The local CBS affiliate discovered in June that some number of labs conducting the testing were only reported the positive cases. One lab, for example, reported 500 positive and zero negative cases for a given period. When the reporters asked the labs about this practice, they promised to report all results, positive and negative. As of August, the labs said they were providing all results to the state, so it must be the state was not handling the data right. This skews two figures: the positivity rate, which has been guiding decisions on reopening, and the number of people tested. Wonder if some number of labs country-wide are doing this, reporting only positive tests.
 
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

More Good news !! ---- National COVID Positivity Rate continues its steady decline since early July. Down to 6.1% from 8.5% nationally in early July , and continuing to drop. Everything trending in the right direction. Appears the different regions of the country have had delayed onset of their initial spikes, and then the curve gets flattened as the population adheres to the rules and gets it under control. Looks like the last few, more remote regions of the country ( HI, AK and Mountain west etc) are dealing with their initial spikes now. Much less impact to the national numbers due to the low populations in these areas.. but once they are over the hump things appear they will flatten out across the board.
 
How is it that select cities allow violent protesting day after day while ordering citizens to wear masks and close their businesses

How is it no one cares about the mental aspects of the shutfldown..suicides, overdoses, crime but msm continues to hammer every single coronavirus case and death ad nauseum. Its sick

The hypocrisy raises questions on what a sham this all is...selective

Coronavirus is real for sure

Scare tactics and fear are too
 
How is it that select cities allow violent protesting day after day while ordering citizens to wear masks and close their businesses

How is it no one cares about the mental aspects of the shutfldown..suicides, overdoses, crime but msm continues to hammer every single coronavirus case and death ad nauseum. Its sick

The hypocrisy raises questions on what a sham this all is...selective

Coronavirus is real for sure

Scare tactics and fear are too
I don't entirely disagree, but when you point out hypocrisy while also engaging in the practice? It rings hollow.

This article is from May.

 
How is it that select cities allow violent protesting day after day while ordering citizens to wear masks and close their businesses

How is it no one cares about the mental aspects of the shutfldown..suicides, overdoses, crime but msm continues to hammer every single coronavirus case and death ad nauseum. Its sick

The hypocrisy raises questions on what a sham this all is...selective

Coronavirus is real for sure

Scare tactics and fear are too
Because people are afraid to speak out against something which is inherently wrong and just as perverse as what the supposed “ fight” is for. To ignore what is going on in these corrupt cities is the real issue here and the only way to stop it is to see it for what it really is ... Sowing hate and discord between groups is not the answer.
 
From yesterdays NYT's

"While the coronavirus was initially said to spare the young, that no longer appears to be true medically, and economically it never was — certainly not for the 10 million children below the poverty line and even larger numbers just above it. With hunger rising, classrooms closing and parental stress surging, the pandemic is a threat to low-income children of epochal proportions, one that could leave an entire generation bearing its scars."
 
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Today's NYT's

"Restaurants in New York City, which were devastated by the pandemic shutdown in the spring, remain in crisis as a ban on indoor service continues, despite nearly 10,000 eateries having set up outdoor seating since July."


"Gabriel Stulman said that Bar Sardine, one of his nine Manhattan restaurants, was doing 30 percent of normal business and that its landlord had refused to negotiate on rent. Without additional government relief, he predicted that many restaurants would close in the coming months if indoor dining remains barred.

“I don’t want to be dramatic, but this is apocalyptic for the industry,”"
 
Talking cable news and politicians here. Sure a few print articles here and there

Its exactly why Alex Berenson is a hero

Wasn't Berenson from the print side of the business? I thought you were talking cable news. (calling him a hero is laughable)

But cable news sucks. Both sides(with a few exceptions) Very negative effect on the country.
 
From yesterdays NYT's

"While the coronavirus was initially said to spare the young, that no longer appears to be true medically, and economically it never was — certainly not for the 10 million children below the poverty line and even larger numbers just above it. With hunger rising, classrooms closing and parental stress surging, the pandemic is a threat to low-income children of epochal proportions, one that could leave an entire generation bearing its scars."
It’s been a problem for years ... many , many years. It impacted the young back during the 1930’s Depression era... it’s been this way in inner cities for years and why is that? It has been prevalent in homes lacking a stable family group.
 
From yesterdays NYT's

"While the coronavirus was initially said to spare the young, that no longer appears to be true medically, and economically it never was — certainly not for the 10 million children below the poverty line and even larger numbers just above it. With hunger rising, classrooms closing and parental stress surging, the pandemic is a threat to low-income children of epochal proportions, one that could leave an entire generation bearing its scars."

Haha its actually a political slanted article
 
It’s been a problem for years ... many , many years. It impacted the young back during the 1930’s Depression era... it’s been this way in inner cities for years and why is that? It has been prevalent in homes lacking a stable family group.

Increasingly, poverty is in the suburbs. Especially as there has been a flight of capital into cities over the last couple of decades. The biggest complication of this transformation is that suburban municipalities/ counties often don’t have the same social programs cities have to assist the impoverished with essential needs.

The Economist did a piece on this using Chicago as an example; Cabrini Green was the quintessential example “inner city” problems in the second half of the 20th century. Now it’s luxury condos, and the former residents have been pushed elsewhere—often suburbs. San Fran / Oakland is an even better example of inner city poverty being expelled to the burbs.

Should also point out though that the demographics of poverty are also changing — it’s not just the same impoverished groups moving around. A profile of poverty is more white and Hispanic than in the past — probably having to do with a loss of blue collar jobs in some suburban areas.
 
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Wasn't Berenson from the print side of the business? I thought you were talking cable news. (calling him a hero is laughable)

But cable news sucks. Both sides(with a few exceptions) Very negative effect on the country.

He is a hero because he is calling out hypocrisy..same as Tucker..mask mandate calls lmfao
 
Today's NYT's

"Restaurants in New York City, which were devastated by the pandemic shutdown in the spring, remain in crisis as a ban on indoor service continues, despite nearly 10,000 eateries having set up outdoor seating since July."


"Gabriel Stulman said that Bar Sardine, one of his nine Manhattan restaurants, was doing 30 percent of normal business and that its landlord had refused to negotiate on rent. Without additional government relief, he predicted that many restaurants would close in the coming months if indoor dining remains barred.

“I don’t want to be dramatic, but this is apocalyptic for the industry,”"

Thanks for posting...more evidence that sutdowns are worse than openings
 
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Thanks for posting...more evidence that sutdowns are worse than openings

Unclear. In March, before the shutdown, it was already noticeable that the virus was having an effect on bars and restaurants by me; and that was when many people, myself included, were still taking little to no precautions.

It is now clear that people will go to great lengths to avoid getting sick — little risk tolerance. Without any restrictions, you’d still have cautious consumers opting to eat at home rather than sit in a crowded room, and of course a dearth of tourists.

One might even make the case that if total shut downs result in government subsidies, and a steeper return to normalcy on the other side of the shut down, then doing no business at all is far better than doing some business without subsidies in a cautious environment.

Ben Bernanke pretty much said this in March (rush out of lockdown before solving the health crisis and you’ll see the economy struggle), but we were in a big hurry to live in a weird hybrid ok / not-ok world.
 
Increasingly, poverty is in the suburbs. Especially as there has been a flight of capital into cities over the last couple of decades. The biggest complication of this transformation is that suburban municipalities/ counties often don’t have the same social programs cities have to assist the impoverished with essential needs.

The Economist did a piece on this using Chicago as an example; Cabrini Green was the quintessential example “inner city” problems in the second half of the 20th century. Now it’s luxury condos, and the former residents have been pushed elsewhere—often suburbs. San Fran / Oakland is an even better example of inner city poverty being expelled to the burbs.

Should also point out though that the demographics of poverty are also changing — it’s not just the same impoverished groups moving around. A profile of poverty is more white and Hispanic than in the past — probably having to do with a loss of blue collar jobs in some suburban areas.
You understand why there is an increase amongst Hispanic and Whites in the demographic ? Not just because of a loss of blue collar jobs ...it is because over the past 25-30 years the family structure ( mother / father) has broken apart ... we can agree to disagree but a two parent system , though not perfect , works better... all you need to do is analyze why Asian and Indian / India) families seem to have the success they do ... in school , home and the ability to avoid dire poverty levels in this country... mostly immigrants all ...FAMILY STRUCTURE does work... not so much so in those inner city environments.
 
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