COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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Yes the state. The icu is maybe only 40 percent full with people woh have corona but the ICU in the state due to all causes is 90 percent capacity.
Brazilian president Bolsonaro, noted skeptic with regard to the pandemic, tested positive today for the coronavirus. Some of his more ridiculous quotes are in the link below.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ro-now-covid-19-positive-has-downplayed-risks
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ro-now-covid-19-positive-has-downplayed-risks
Wrong..i certainly believe in airborne transmission. I also believe you arent getting it from passing by someone or are they coughing and sneezing at you? I thought they were wearing masks
Interesting experiences in Virginia one month apart.
My in-laws are just north of Richmond.
Memorial Day Weekend:
No masks required in stores.
Went to an outdoor store and most had no masks - both young and old.
July 4th Weekend:
Masks required in stores.
Even at gas station rest stops there were signs that masks were required.
They are entering Phase 3(?) and masks seem more prevalent than a month ago.
My in-laws are just north of Richmond.
Memorial Day Weekend:
No masks required in stores.
Went to an outdoor store and most had no masks - both young and old.
July 4th Weekend:
Masks required in stores.
Even at gas station rest stops there were signs that masks were required.
They are entering Phase 3(?) and masks seem more prevalent than a month ago.
Also - going from NJ to Virginia is crazy.
An actual conversation my wife and I had.
Wife: We should go back in. I want that coral colored pocket knife. Oh wait. There was a long line.
Me: No. That long line in the store was for the Handgun display. Not the knife display.
An actual conversation my wife and I had.
Wife: We should go back in. I want that coral colored pocket knife. Oh wait. There was a long line.
Me: No. That long line in the store was for the Handgun display. Not the knife display.
Some of those quotes are hilarious. That guy is nuts.
Some are, some aren't. Joggers never do and they love to spew. Just doing my part to not be that guy while being a responsible member of society without going overboard.
I believe Texas(63+37) and Florida(46+63) death for the last 2 days have increased.
Texas had most deaths in a day today, most new cases in a day today, and most hospitlizations in a day today. Texas over 9,000 hospitalizations currently right now for Covid. A higher number than NJ ever reached.
If you’re wondering why some governors and local officials have done abrupt about faces regarding reopening while pundits are saying this no longer a death story and the case spike doesn’t mean anything, I think it likely has something to do with the trends playing out below. These states have seen weekly deaths grow 40-80% over the last two weeks, while cases are just now plateauing (it appears) this week.
FL-
Last 7 days: 336
Previous 7 days: 265
7 days ended 6/23: 244
Peak cases: 7/4
TX-
Last 7 days: 288 (as of 5 cst today — not sure if fully reported)
Previous 7 days: 245
7 days ended 6/23: 189
Peak cases: 7/6
AZ-
Last 7 days: 295
Previous 7 days: 248
7 days ended 6/23: 165
Peak cases: 7/1
FL-
Last 7 days: 336
Previous 7 days: 265
7 days ended 6/23: 244
Peak cases: 7/4
TX-
Last 7 days: 288 (as of 5 cst today — not sure if fully reported)
Previous 7 days: 245
7 days ended 6/23: 189
Peak cases: 7/6
AZ-
Last 7 days: 295
Previous 7 days: 248
7 days ended 6/23: 165
Peak cases: 7/1
Misleading in many ways. He said "99% of those infected have no significant issues with the infection," which is absolute bullshit (maybe he's Trump's source for that stupid comment, as none of Trump's scientific advisors has said anything like that), as roughly 10-15% infected end up in hospitals, so far, and even if that number for the more recent outbreaks is a fair amount less, it's still way more than 1% and ignores the months of history of the outbreak (we're seeing ~5% in FL, given a 1-week offset). Or maybe this idiot thinks being hospitalized isn't a "significant issue."
He also says young people being infected is a "good thing" as it moves us towards herd immunity. If that was the only outcome, I could see his point, but we know that many young people are very cavalier about wearing masks and are serious vectors for infecting middle-aged and elderly people who have far greater likelihood of becoming seriously ill or dying. He's also claiming "victory" way too early on outcomes with regard to serious illnesses and deaths, when we know hospitalizations are still going up quickly and deaths lag new cases by weeks. Let's see where we are in 2-4 weeks, assuming these states see a peak and then a decline in cases - then we'll know far better how well they did or didn't do.
Also, you already posted the HCQ story several days ago - it's not "new" and it's been discussed already that a poorly run retrospective, observational study like the Detroit one is far less believable than the "gold standard" randomized/controlled Recovery Trial that was run in the UK showing no clinical benefit.
Great info, thanks. Nothing to see here. I also don't get the fixation of some in noting that they're not all COVID patients - of course they're not and they weren't in NY/NJ either, although when things got bad people did postpone elective procedures and office visits, which I assume is what they'll do in these states as they get close to especially ICU capacity. Yes, hospitalizations are not increasing at the same rate relative to cases, as I posted the other night using FL vs. NJ as an example (due to the much younger profile of people being infected), but we also don't know where this is going to go. We could easily see these young people infecting a bunch of middle-aged and elderly people and see those populations spike in cases - let's hope not, but it's certainly a risk.
yup they keep moving the goalposts and keep extending the time period between cases and deaths...two weeks is becoming 4 weeks becoming maybe 6 weeks for them
look deaths may go up eventually as we spike in certain areas but its not a foregone conclusion and it hasnt yet
rumors that masks will be made mandatory in NJ in all public places starting tomorrow..meaning eveywhere you go...walking dog, sitting in the park, sitting on the sand in the beach, walking the boardwalk..if true Murphy can go F himself and i dont think you can put the genie back in the bottle on the beaches....its an overreach to require masks while taking an evening stroll...wont end well
Just to be clear, do you think this trend continues?
All true and concerning, but to be fair, Texas has ~3X the population of NJ, so 9000 current hospitalizations in TX is, per capita, a lot less than NJ's peak of 8000 (which would be ~26K at TX's population of 29MM vs NJ's 8.9MM).
No we note that in states with spikes in cases, we are seeing increases in fatalities. The continued decrease in deaths is due to those states who did not see their cases spike 3 weeks ago.
you said the same thing last week and 10 days ago
also there are going to be deaths and spikes and it will likely happen in a few states..get used to that....meanwhile the hysteria that you and msm enjoy is telling
there are aspects of this graph and story of more cases that is just not being covered.
See my post immediately below your post of the graph.
Deaths are going up in the ‘hot spots.’ Roughly 100 extra deaths per week each in AZ / TX / FL vs two weeks ago. Will it lead to a national uptick? Probably. Today had 10% more deaths nationally than last Tuesday for example — one day doesn’t make a trend, but given the underlying stories in these states it wouldn’t be surprising to see a trend take foot.
Will we reach the crazy numbers we had before? I don’t think we have evidence to suggest that will be the case.
so how did Mayor Bottoms contract coronavirus despite insisting she practiced all the proper ways to prevent infection
Nobody is moving any goal posts. Everyone acknowledges that deaths have continued to drop, but there is a lag, and if we still don’t see a large uptick in July, something else is going on. Either way, so far so good, and fingers crossed we don’t see an insane spike. I’m sure we’ll see some increases though because you’re already seeing it in some states.
Wish we had better stats on the infected group so we can tell if it’s due to younger people, virus mutation, maybe it’s even some of the trials going on.
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Wow 10 whole days ago? That probably means that current trends will never change.
After the first wave I think Murphy is determined to not allow a 2nd wave in the state.
I do see this as heavy handed, I can certainly see that there is the possibility of a political aspect, but traveling to DE? Who is this one really effecting?
we have seen the timeline goalposts continue to move..remember your posts about Florida back in April....and I do think we eventually see a surge in deaths but you and I and everyone else has no clue what it will be, so i find the declarative statements to be totally beyond the pale
guess what..we have to live...we are at a point in the pandemic where it is clear what some want the country to do through November
Actually, runners are starting to wear masks in central Jersey this weekend. Most hikers in parks that have significant foot traffic wear masks, as well. I have it around my neck when biking the same trails and flip it up when approaching someone. It's the courteous thing to do. It feels great to take it off after passing the other trail user..
Do you think cases spiking all over the country and deaths, even if they don't spike, increasing behind it, is good for the incumbent?
If the timeline "goalposts" move a week or so, but the overall trend proves to be in the unfortunate direction, you think that proves you right?
if cases are increasing and deaths are not increasing yes thats a good thing long term
guess what, this virus isnt going away, i thought we were flattening the curve..more goalposts moved, guess what a vaccine that really works will not be here soon, unless it magically appears in Novembers
we are not even 4 months into this.....the sticking your head in the sand about implications of society for another 4 months pretending we can proceed with this kind of world is predictable
we are not even 4 months into this.....the sticking your head in the sand about implications of society for another 4 months pretending we can proceed with this kind of world is predictable
The fact that I'm being questioned because a timeline was off by a week, by those who declared there would be no increase in fatalities in states like FL, TX and AZ shows where we are in this debate.
I had some telling me a couple days ago that FL's deaths were not increasing, yet today we see those deaths are up over 50% since their low point on June 18th.
I had some telling me a couple days ago that FL's deaths were not increasing, yet today we see those deaths are up over 50% since their low point on June 18th.
Looking at states like FL and TX and AZ we see that that fatality trend will not continue. Today's death total for the country does show a pretty marked increase over the same day last week. Will probably end up as the highest Tuesday death total since June 9th.
One off? Maybe.
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