COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...

[rutgersguy1]

Only an anecdote and sample of one but hopefully not something that we’ll see more of in the future. Patient had mild symptoms months ago and tested positive then recovered. Had two negative tests then months later tested positive again with more severe symptoms. I believe it has been said that milder cases don’t impart as “durable” antibodies as more moderate/severe cases.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/20...d-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Oh god. If you really think wearing masks would have been the difference you are a complete idiot. There are many reasons why there has been serious flaws in the actions taken and not taken. Wearing masks is at not at the top of the list. It's not even top 5.

The whole point is moot... China hid the virus too long and bought up the world's supply of masks.. with money they made from us offshoring manufacturing to them for decades. By the time we got the masks we could manufacture here, it would have been about the same time we started wearing them.

 

[ArminRU]

It's literally a trillion dollar question and was why I chose this topic for the first post of the new thread. Somewhere around 50% of people who have never been exposed to the virus have T-cells that provide an immune response to SARS-CoV-2 in cell culture, very likely due to T-cell cross-reactivity stemming from exposure to other coronaviruses. Figuring out whether that confers none, little, some or complete immunity to COVID (and what it might mean for vaccines) is incalculably important.

Seems like T Cell research and data is much more difficult than AB. Hope we can get answers to those questions soon, but sounds like that might take awhile.

I got the flu early this year....would be great if that gave me immunity to Covid!

 

[Joey Bags]

Only an anecdote and sample of one but hopefully not something that we’ll see more of in the future. Patient had mild symptoms months ago and tested positive then recovered. Had two negative tests then months later tested positive again with more severe symptoms. I believe it has been said that milder cases don’t impart as “durable” antibodies as more moderate/severe cases.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/20...d-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

If reinfection is possible does that do anything to the prospect of a vaccine?

 

[Greg2020]

We know for sure that NJ and NY overcounted. That's just a fact.

That's not a fact. That is an outright lie by you.

 

[RUevolution36]

It's funny you mention those states.
A well known physician touches on Southern states that are on the border

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-at...to-protests-and-proximity-to-us-mexico-border

No propaganda please.

 

[Greg2020]

Trying to catch up on this thread, but I have a friend in his late 50’s that passed away on July 6, who got Covid around April 1 and was on a ventilator for well over two months. His lungs and his body in general were in extremely bad shape.

So it’s not crazy to have a very long period of time between being Covid positive and date of death.

So sorry for your loss.

 

[Greg2020]

You've been saying masks are not for your own protection, but to protect others.

So with that logic, he would have acquired CV whether he was wearing a mask or not.

We really need to keep this thread based on science and data.

It's gotten so off tracking with politics and spin

Again pot calling kettle black. The next contribution you make to this thread based on data and science will be your first.

 

[Greg2020]

I'd probably go that route. As long as you adhere to the bold. And that would include no indoor restaurants(if that is even possible down there).

It was possible a few weeks ago. Had a friend there, and ate in numerous indoor resturants. She then went from the research triangle to the outterbanks, back to Long Island, took a trip tp upsate NY and then returned to the triangle.

 

[RUevolution36]

The whole point is moot... China hid the virus too long and bought up the world's supply of masks.. with money they made from us offshoring manufacturing to them for decades. By the time we got the masks we could manufacture here, it would have been about the same time we started wearing them.

Or, we could have followed a playbook that would have enlisted the help of the American companies that are the leaders in making N95 masks and ppe early on to ramp up production sooner. But no such playbook ever existed, right?

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Again pot calling kettle black. The next contribution you make to this thread based on data and science will be your first.

Thanks for admitting your guilt.

We are on to you.

 

[Greg2020]

LOL. So you can't produce any receipts about the 3-4+ week "lag" in daily hospitalization counts at the time of the Horowitz article I linked at least a month ago now. #Shocker. #Not.

Must be fun trying to craft timely public policy with such garbage data. Don't worry I know you can't respond substantively or honestly, "Greg"--it's OK for you to hide behind Numbers' skirt.

What do you mean? Every state has had a lag in their data. @RU-05 explained to you numerous times how it worked. Surprised you are back in this thread despite all the egg on your face. I won't be responding again to you and your non-sensical posts. #horowitzwhippingboy

 

[rutgersdave]

Oh god. If you really think wearing masks would have been the difference you are a complete idiot. There are many reasons why there has been serious flaws in the actions taken and not taken. Wearing masks is at not at the top of the list. It's not even top 5.

You’re the idiot, the expert say it but you must be the doctor working at the supermarket .

 

[Greg2020]

if masks are everything then why are gyms shuutered for good

if seatbelts are so important why do we have speed limits, and car safety standards ?

 

[Greg2020]

The whole point is moot... China hid the virus too long and bought up the world's supply of masks.. with money they made from us offshoring manufacturing to them for decades. By the time we got the masks we could manufacture here, it would have been about the same time we started wearing them.

Somehow in Europe life is almost back to normal. We are special!

 

[Greg2020]

Only an anecdote and sample of one but hopefully not something that we’ll see more of in the future. Patient had mild symptoms months ago and tested positive then recovered. Had two negative tests then months later tested positive again with more severe symptoms. I believe it has been said that milder cases don’t impart as “durable” antibodies as more moderate/severe cases.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/20...d-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

Maybe the first test was a false positive?

 

[rutgersdave]

Somehow in Europe life is almost back to normal. We are special!

Almost the entire world has it under control except the USA and Brazil.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Almost the entire world has it under control except the USA and Brazil.

Fake News

 

[WhiteBus]

You’re the idiot, the expert say it but you must be the doctor working at the supermarket .

So your dumb ass is saying a mask is more important then social distancing. And you are ignoring that most deaths happened at long term care facilities?

 

[rutgersdave]

So your dumb ass is saying a mask is more important then social distancing. And you are ignoring that most deaths happened at long term care facilities?

Those are the only two things, social distancing and wear a mask, that can be done you idiot. In your other post, you even complain about people not wearing their mask. Are you crazy?

Oh, the third advise, don’t go to a nursing home.

 

[WhiteBus]

Those are the only two things that can be done you idiot. In your other post, you even complain about people not wearing their mask. Are you crazy?

So again you have 100 percent faith in masks being the #1 protection in Covid issues? Simple question what is more important social distancing or masks?? Pick one.

 

[rutgersdave]

So again you have 100 percent faith in masks being the #1 protection in Covid issues? Simple question what is more important social distancing or masks?? Pick one.

They are both important. They are the only thing the experts talk about both of them, social distancing and mask.

 

[WhiteBus]

They are both important. They are the only thing the experts talk about both of them, social distancing and mask.

Bullshit answer! You have choice. Pick one. Someone 10 feet away from you without a mask or a person with a mask 3 feet away from you.?

 

[rutgersdave]

Bullshit answer! You have choice. Pick one. Someone 10 feet away from you without a mask or a person with a mask 3 feet away from you.?

Stop it idiot. You’re showing how dumb you are.

The 20-30 times that I saw doctors recommend both on TV, they didn’t say which one was more important, however they always recommended both.

 

[WhiteBus]

Stop it idiot. You’re showing how dumb you are.

No you can't answer the question because you have an agenda. You can't admit to facts. Complete loser. Can't answer a very simple question.

 

[greenknight]

if masks are everything then why are gyms shuutered for good

Because people wipe their faces, people sweat. The gyms have the most bacterial content on most of their equipment especially in the free wight room.. go buy some dumbells and work out at home

 

[rutgersdave]

No you can't answer the question because you have an agenda. You can't admit to facts. Complete loser. Can't answer a very simple question.

Like I said, they never said which one is more important and they didn’t tested it to determine which one is more important. You did your own test?

I don’t know how you can complain about people not wearing a mask and then not consider it important.

 

[greenknight]

Rooting for death? Not me no matter who wins the election. I’m rooting for this to go away or a cure be found.

There will not be a cure....there never is for a virus

If that was the case they would have figured the flu 100 yrs ago. They cant beat the simple cold do you really think they are going to beat a well oiled extremely efficient virus designed to attach to humans it's not going to happen. Herd immunity will probably be the only solution and even that does not get rid of it. it slows it down drastically. Eventually it will just run its course and move on for the next pandemic to sweep the world

 

[WhiteBus]

Like I said, they never said which one is more important and they didn’t tested it to determine which one is more important. You did your own test?

I don’t know how you can complain about people not wearing a mask and then not consider it important.

Haha. You still dance around the question! And there is a simple answer but you refuse to admit you are wrong. Choose one and man up! Or STFU.

 

[greenknight]

Almost the entire world has it under control except the USA and Brazil.

Everybody will lose control again

 

[RUevolution36]

Bullshit answer! You have choice. Pick one. Someone 10 feet away from you without a mask or a person with a mask 3 feet away from you.?

Why does it always have to be an either or with you? Socially distance whenever possible, wear a mask when you can't. When you can distance, the mask is extremely important. When you can socially distance, it's not. In order for us to try to operate in a new normal, there are going to be many situations where distancing isn't possible. Or indoor situations where, even if you are distanced, air circulation is poor, and if the news about possible airborne transmission is true, rather than mostly droplets, extremely effective masks are even more important.

 

[WhiteBus]

Why does it always have to be an either or with you? Socially distance whenever possible, wear a mask when you can't. When you can distance, the mask is extremely important. When you can socially distance, it's not. In order for us to try to operate in a new normal, there are going to be many situations where distancing isn't possible. Or indoor situations where, even if you are distanced, air circulation is poor, and if the news about possible airborne transmission, rather than mostly droplets, extremely effective masks are even more important.

Another one. If your life depended on it which will you choose. Simple question. One is way more important than the other.

 

[RUevolution36]

Another one. If your life depended on it which will you choose. Simple question. One is way more important than the other.

If my life depends on going into a grocery store to get food, then the mask is most important. If I can help it, I'm going to to farmers market where there's less people. But I'm still wearing a mask. Its not black or white. Nothing ever is.

 

[ArminRU]

There will not be a cure....there never is for a virus

If that was the case they would have figured the flu 100 yrs ago. They cant beat the simple cold do you really think they are going to beat a well oiled extremely efficient virus designed to attach to humans it's not going to happen. Herd immunity will probably be the only solution and even that does not get rid of it. it slows it down drastically. Eventually it will just run its course and move on for the next pandemic to sweep the world

What do you mean by “cure”? We have vaccines, antivirals and treatments for many viruses, including the flu.

 

[WhiteBus]

If my life depends on going into a grocery store to get food, then the mask is most important. If I can help it, I'm going to to farmers market where there's less people. But I'm still wearing a mask. Its not black or white. Nothing ever is.

That wasn't the question. I work in a grocery store I have no choice but to wear a mask because there isn't an opportunity for social distancing as 2500 people walk through my department in an 8 hour shift. Pick one! Give an answer or stop your BS posts.

 

[WhiteBus]

What do you mean by “cure”? We have vaccines, antivirals and treatments for many viruses, including the flu.

Well actually no. There has never been a vaccine for any Covid virus.

 

[Greg2020]

If my life depends on going into a grocery store to get food, then the mask is most important. If I can help it, I'm going to to farmers market where there's less people. But I'm still wearing a mask. Its not black or white. Nothing ever is.

Don't bother with that guy. There is really no point.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

There will not be a cure....there never is for a virus

If that was the case they would have figured the flu 100 yrs ago. They cant beat the simple cold do you really think they are going to beat a well oiled extremely efficient virus designed to attach to humans it's not going to happen. Herd immunity will probably be the only solution and even that does not get rid of it. it slows it down drastically. Eventually it will just run its course and move on for the next pandemic to sweep the world

Polio and smallpox to name a few

 

[ArminRU]

Well actually no. There has never been a vaccine for any Covid virus.

He said virus, not coronavirus specifically. And all because there isn’t one yet, doesn’t mean it’s not possible. Now that there’s a good reason and a ton of effort/money behind a cure, it will happen.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Maybe the first test was a false positive?

I'd hope there is some explanation other than you can be reinfected in a few months but who knows. There was a link in that article about a central jersey doctor saying the same thing where 2 of his patients were reinfected after some months too.

https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/m...-patients-reinfected-with-coronavirus/790555/