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COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...

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I had a county test last week. They called my home asking if anyone wanted a free test and gave the location. There were maybe 3-5 other people at the location. They asked a few questions on your cell phone and got your e mail address. It was the Rutgers test and you had to spit into a test tube. Afterward, they said you will get the test results in an email with 48 hrs. I got it the next day.
I had the county test at Raritan Valley College in early May. The process was quick and easy but I had to have a doctor's prescription and the results were sent to the doctor. It took multiple phone calls and 10 days for the result to be sent. 3 weeks later, I had to have another one as a pre-surgical test. It was done at Brunswick Urgent Care on Rt. 27 in Franklin Park. Walk in testing and I was in and out within 20 minutes with results emailed to me in 2 days. They also have a location on Rt. 18 in East Brunswick. They took my insurance information but no co-pay.
 
Yes it does...it has not eradicated the virus. It controls it.

Sorry, but what is your point? For viruses, vaccines, antivirals and treatments are the cure. I think we can all agree that if we can be at the same place as we are for polio, then we’re in good shape.
 
Some good news on the Cytokine Storm front. Small trial out of India, but it’s an already approved medicine so we already know it’s safe. Maybe it’ll work better than tocilizumab.

“In the patients receiving itolizumab, there were zero deaths and all patients have recovered. In the control arm, three patients died, and the rest have recovered. This mortality benefit was statistically significant. Patients receiving itolizumab demonstrated significant decreases in inflammatory cytokines such as IL-6 and TNFalpha.”

https://www.biospace.com/article/eq...cuts-death-in-hospitalized-covid-19-patients/

Meanwhile, Leronlimab was rejected from the FDA. Might not be anything serious, but a lot of mystery around this drug

https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/13/fda-refuses-cytodyn-hiv-drug-application/
 
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What do you mean? Every state has had a lag in their data. @RU-05 explained to you numerous times how it worked. Surprised you are back in this thread despite all the egg on your face. I won't be responding again to you and your non-sensical posts. #horowitzwhippingboy
LOL. Again. You have no idea what you're talking abut. RU-05 provided an anecdote about someone in a local hospital here and the paperwork backups in reporting their daily COVID counts, which may justify a few days delay in accurate official daily counts. But nowhere has there been any reports, either at the time of that Horowitz article or since, about how or why daily hospital COVID counts get backdated 4+ weeks, ie. a Jun 5 report showing 1 new hospital COVID hospital case on Jun 2, then a 6/12 report changing that same Jun 2 case count to 12, then 35 hospital cases for that same Jun 2 on a 6/19 report, then 60 for that same Jun 2 , and on and on....

Sorry "GREG", you need to do your own homework and not be so lazy...besides you can't even plagiarize other people's posts correctly. #Dumblil'fkr
 
Bullshit answer! You have choice. Pick one. Someone 10 feet away from you without a mask or a person with a mask 3 feet away from you.?
it is worse than that.. it ignores testing and quarantines and contact tracing

if China had stopped all international travel after they found the virus and after they saw what the Chinese workers were bringing to Italy's garment-making industry this would have been stopped sooner..

if Trump, the CDC and Feds had stopped all international travel before we had case 1 and then back-traced US customs records of visitors and tested every single person who had come in.. found the cases early.. contract-traced all of them and quarantined them...

that is the kind of thing that could have been done.. it would have been a rather severe thing to do.. and would have taken huge amounts of resources.. but compared to what actually happened.. it would have been wise... despite the predictable backlash in the media and among travelers... business travel, vacations, honeymoons.. all stopped from coming back.. rough.

Live and learn.. adapt or die.

As for the daily count stuff being discussed.. the Middlesex County drive-in spit test results take 2 days to get back to you (the written results took a month.. maybe they quarantine those forms because they seem to be hand-written.. perhaps by the testers). I suppose if you have reason to think you might be positive you should keep a contact-trace list at least until you get your 2-day old results. Stuff like that is probably why there are issues with daily counts.
 
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LOL. Again. You have no idea what you're talking abut. RU-05 provided an anecdote about someone in a local hospital here and the paperwork backups in reporting their daily COVID counts, which may justify a few days delay in accurate official daily counts. But nowhere has there been any reports, either at the time of that Horowitz article or since, about how or why daily hospital COVID counts get backdated 4+ weeks, ie. a Jun 5 report showing 1 new hospital COVID hospital case on Jun 2, then a 6/12 report changing that same Jun 2 case count to 12, then 35 hospital cases for that same Jun 2 on a 6/19 report, then 60 for that same Jun 2 , and on and on....

Sorry "GREG", you need to do your own homework and not be so lazy...besides you can't even plagiarize other people's posts correctly. #Dumblil'fkr
Yup more blather from you. We all knew about the delays besides you because all you do is what your puppet master horowitz tells you. Maybe one day you will make a post based on facts. But I won't see it. Ignored.
 
No idea what you're talking about, but I've had posts deleted too and you didn't see me blaming you or whining about it to the board like a little girl. I suggest you either post appropriately or toughen up a little.
Sure, because LOL means whining....LOL. It's even funnier, so let's say LMAO, since you do know what I'm talking about because you stepped into posts that while not directed to you, still have that original post that was to you quoted and referenced. If I have time later I'll tweak that wording a bit and re-post so you won't complain to the Mods again. In the meantime feel free to respond to the original version still available as part of the posts you jumped into.


 
it is worse than that.. it ignores testing and quarantines and contact tracing

if China had stopped all international travel after they found the virus and after they saw what the Chinese workers were bringing to Italy's garment-making industry this would have been stopped sooner..

if Trump, the CDC and Feds had stopped all international travel before we had case 1 and then back-traced US customs rrecords of visitors and tested every single person who chad come in.. found the cases early.. contract-traced all of them and quarantined them...

that is the kind of thing that could have been done.. it would have been a rather severe thing to do.. and would have taken huge amounts of resources.. but compared to what actually happened.. it would have been wise.

Live and learn.. adapt or die.
Distancing and masks are the main interventions that the general public can do. The rest of these things you mentioned require healthcare providers and governmental coordination. And agree, all of these need to be done as well.
 
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Yup more blather from you. We all knew about the delays besides you because all you do is what your puppet master horowitz tells you. Maybe one day you will make a post based on facts. But I won't see it. Ignored.
Thanks for admitting there is no such explanation for the 4+ week backdating adjustments to AZ hospitalization daily case counts, "Greg".
 
Thanks for admitting there is no such explanation for the 4+ week backdating adjustments to AZ hospitalization daily case counts, "Greg".
Cuomo had NY State change the way they counted deaths at nursing homes to lower the number... to move the deaths where the person was taken to a hospital (too late) to the hospital. Yes.. the death numbers are being manipulated by a lot of forces... would not at all be surprised if every CoVid number as political manipulations affecting it.
 
Cuomo had NY State change the way they counted deaths at nursing homes to lower the number... to move the deaths where the person was taken to a hospital (too late) to the hospital. Yes.. the death numbers are being manipulated by a lot of forces... would not at all be surprised if every CoVid number as political manipulations affecting it.
Political manipulation of chicomvirus data is a believable explanation, sadly.
 
Thanks for admitting there is no such explanation for the 4+ week backdating adjustments to AZ hospitalization daily case counts, "Greg".
I admitted nothing of the sort. Thanks for admitting you blindly follow Howoritz and won't admit he or you were wrong even though everyone else in the thread laughs at you because of all the egg on your face.
 
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I would never inject a fast track drug into my system that would never happen in this lifetime. A true researched vaccine is almost a 2yr process
Once the vaccine is available, those that don't take it will be restricted from many activities. Perhaps even school, offices, and large events.
 
Sorry, but what is your point? For viruses, vaccines, antivirals and treatments are the cure. I think we can all agree that if we can be at the same place as we are for polio, then we’re in good shape.
Ok but measles was not cured. Vaccines control them. Absolutely if a vaccine can come along and control covid great....but I think it will disappear on it's own before that happens like H1N1.
 
I admitted nothing of the sort. Thanks for admitting you blindly follow Howoritz and won't admit he or you were wrong even though everyone else in the thread laughs at you because of all the egg on your face.
LOL, nope you are wrong AGAIN 'lilfkr----amazing streak you have going here. I actually did acknowledge that the 2,3, 4+ week backdated changes to daily hospitalization case count numbers did make that particular conclusion by Horowitz incorrect. Maybe you should try to read up on that. Oh, and thanks for putting me on "Ignore". LMAO.

Here's "Greg" trying to troll:
 
LOL, nope you are wrong AGAIN 'lilfkr----amazing streak you have going here. I actually did acknowledge that the 2,3, 4+ week backdated changes to daily hospitalization case count numbers did make that particular conclusion by Horowitz incorrect. Maybe you should try to read up on that. Oh, and thanks for putting me on "Ignore". LMAO.

Here's "Greg" trying to troll:
Nice self portrait. The thread laughs at you. You share multiple articles by Horowtiz both of which had nothing right in them. Not a single iota of truth in them, they were demonstrably false and then come up in here acting like you were right.
 
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Ok but measles was not cured. Vaccines control them. Absolutely if a vaccine can come along and control covid great....but I think it will disappear on it's own before that happens like H1N1.
I read somewhere that no strain of a coronavirus has ever had a vaccine.. all attempts have failed to produce one. I suppose a lot more effort and investment surround this one.. but if the effort had continued to crack just one example of a vaccine for a coronavirus.. we probably would have had one for CoVid-19 by now built off that older success..
 
Nice self portrait. The thread laughs at you. You share multiple articles by Horowtiz both of which had nothing right in them. Not a single iota of truth in them, they were demonstrably false and then come up in here acting like you were right.
Sure lil' stalker, still waiting for you to provide any substantive or honest back-up to your juvenile trolling.

How's that Ignore feature working for you "Greg"? [roll][roll][roll]
 
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...entions-and-more.191275/page-132#post-4578542

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As predicted 6 weeks ago and again last week, the CDC finally realized their infection fatality rate estimate of 0.4% (for symptomatic infections) and 0.25% for all infections including asymptomatics, which is the one everyone uses was too low and they've adjusted their "best guess" estimated overall IFR (including asymptomatics) to 0.65%, with an estimated range of 0.5-0.8%, which is very close to the 0.5-1.0% I've been predicting for months (since the NY antibody testing was done in early April, at least, revealing their IFR of about 1.1%, and this was before most epidemiologists were saying it - they're mostly estimating 0.5-1.0% now, as per the 2nd linked post above). I'd rather they were right, but they simply weren't factoring in the antibody testing data properly, IMO.

As per the 2nd to last post above, this is likely the last "inherent" IFR estimate, as we're now starting to see (I think) the impact of improved medical procedures and treatments on the IFR and we should expect the effective IFR to come down from here on out and especially once we have engineered antibodies and, of course, vaccines. But the 0.5-1.0% IFR range provides a good "worst case" planning tool for death estimates should we not practice interventions (like masking/distancing and testing, tracing and isolating) or if treatments/vaccines don't pan out as planned. And that is what gives us the crazy high potential of 0.9MM-2.6MM US deaths eventually, if 55-80% become infected with an IFR of 0.5-1.0%.

So, @T2Kplus10 - I assume you'll give up the low IFR estimate now and continue applauding the CDC for doing such a "good job" on this revision?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

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Thanks for the information. So do we know the IFR for someone who is healthy (no underlying health conditions? It seems to me that this would be very valuable to know when making guidelines to prevent further infections.
 
To clarify, Leronlimab was rejected for treatment of HIV in combination with HAART pending further documents which need to be submitted. This news is not about the use of Leronlimab for treatment of Covid-19.

I know, but it doesn’t bode well for the Covid side either. Might be nothing, but there is currently a lot of skepticism with Leronlimab.
 
To clarify, Leronlimab was rejected for treatment of HIV in combination with HAART pending further documents which need to be submitted. This news is not about the use of Leronlimab for treatment of Covid-19.

True, but it's certainly not a positive to receive a "refusal to file" letter from the FDA on one's flagship drug in development for HIV. Cytodyn says it's not about needing more clinical data, but I've seen RTFs before that resulted in a need for more trials when the company didn't come through with the data that the Agency felt were missing or inadequate to make the case for approval. Not surprised - have been skeptical of leronlimab from day one based on intel from a few folks who are wired much more deeply into the Pharma business than I am.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3590460-fda-rejects-cytodyns-leronlimab-application-for-hiv

Cytodyn said they'd be done with their COVID phase II data analysis for leronlimab this week and would announce the results by the end of the month. They also expect to have an interim safety (not efficacy) read on the ongoing phase III trial by the end of the month.
 
Sure, because LOL means whining....LOL. It's even funnier, so let's say LMAO, since you do know what I'm talking about because you stepped into posts that while not directed to you, still have that original post that was to you quoted and referenced. If I have time later I'll tweak that wording a bit and re-post so you won't complain to the Mods again. In the meantime feel free to respond to the original version still available as part of the posts you jumped into.

Was off the board for about 9-10 hours yesterday and I'm supposed to go inspect every post just to find something you're too lazy to provide? I'll give you an A for chutzpah. Also have no idea why you think I'd complain to the mods about your posts.
 
Was off the board for about 9-10 hours yesterday and I'm supposed to go inspect every post just to find something you're too lazy to provide? I'll give you an A for chutzpah. Also have no idea why you think I'd complain to the mods about your posts.
Too lazy to provide? How's that when the post was deleted? Anyway you wouldn't have to inspect "every post" since it was literally in the posts string you jumped into. You're not new to the Board functions.

Whatever. You know how to find it now if you want, or like I said I can tweak it, but suffice to say you totally flubbed your initial reply and your insults just made you look weaker.
 
Another day of great Covid news for NJ. Weekend reporting caveats apply, but the moving averages all support optimism.
New positive tests- 231
New deaths- 22
Hospitalized under 900, vented under 90, ICU under 200.
Spot Positivity- 1.5%
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Also, something interesting I've noticed. The governor's daily graphics say "231 new cases" but his post comment whenever presenting this graphic refers to them as "231 new positive tests." These are obviously not the same thing, as someone could be tested and yield a positive on successive days. Reading the CDCs recommendations of disposition of patients, it'd be reasonable to think that at least some hospitals are testing Covid cases daily, looking for a negative result before discharge, since that is one of the recommended practices. I wonder how many of the daily positive tests are cumulative from preexisting cases. https://www.cdc.gov/.../disposition-hospitalized-patients...
 
Another day of great Covid news for NJ. Weekend reporting caveats apply, but the moving averages all support optimism.
New positive tests- 231
New deaths- 22
Hospitalized under 900, vented under 90, ICU under 200.
Spot Positivity- 1.5%
Rt- .91

Also, something interesting I've noticed. The governor's daily graphics say "231 new cases" but his post comment whenever presenting this graphic refers to them as "231 new positive tests." These are obviously not the same thing, as someone could be tested and yield a positive on successive days. Reading the CDCs recommendations of disposition of patients, it'd be reasonable to think that at least some hospitals are testing Covid cases daily, looking for a negative result before discharge, since that is one of the recommended practices. I wonder how many of the daily positive tests are cumulative from preexisting cases. https://www.cdc.gov/.../disposition-hospitalized-patients...
Maybe the gyms and bars open up.
 
Why?
What percentage of the population would this apply to?

It would be helpful to know what conditions are more likely to result in death. Then, those people with those conditions can take extraordinary precautions. Why wouldn't we want to know this? I have no idea what percentage of the population it would apply to.
 
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