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lets stop with the stupid narrative that protests didnt cause more cases and its only red state republicans not wearing the masks and spreading the virus.

its across partylines..that much is very clear.

 
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‪A few key stats today as we are facing COVID-19 in Houston‬

‪Daily hospital growth rate is just .2% down from 5.2%, just a week ago ‬

‪We are still in “Phase 2” of our ICU surge capacity plan. ‬

‪Just 9% of our Phase 2 capacity is full‬

‪Phase 3 is not expected in the next two weeks‬



‪This means the hospitals can surge another 842 beds -- at minimum-- if needed. It is worth noting that hospitals regularly operate at 95% ICU capacity this time of year.‬



‪Texas still has one of the lowest death rates in the entire country. Our case fatality rate is just 1.23%‬

‪New York has 10x the COVID-19 deaths of Texas. 164 deaths per 100,000 vs 11 deaths per 100,000‬

‪CA’s spike in cases is as bad as Texas, even though their lockdown was longer‬



‪We CANNOT lock down again as we look for solutions to combat this public health crisis.‬

‪We should continue to strengthen our health care system so that it can continue to handle the uptick in cases.‬

‪And we can take personal precautions like wearing masks and social distancing.‬



‪All of this will help prevent us from making the critical mistake of locking down again. The economic, educational, and other public health impacts of lockdowns are unacceptable.‬

‪Texans are stepping up to confront this challenge together. We can do this.‬
 
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For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.

anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
 
I read somewhere that no strain of a coronavirus has ever had a vaccine.. all attempts have failed to produce one. I suppose a lot more effort and investment surround this one.. but if the effort had continued to crack just one example of a vaccine for a coronavirus.. we probably would have had one for CoVid-19 by now built off that older success..

There are good reasons for having no coronavirus vaccines yet, but the work on SARS/MERS vaccines certainly gave us a jumpstart on COVID vaccine developmnet. There are over 200 specific viruses from several families of viruses that can cause the common cold. Rhinoviruses cause up to 40% of colds (and has 100 distinct virus types). Other important upper respiratory virus families include coronaviruses (of which there are four known to cause the common cold in humans), adenoviruses and respiratory syncytial viruses. Since so many viruses can cause cold symptoms, development of a vaccine for the "common cold" (which really isn't so "common") has been difficult, plus the motivation to develop cold vaccines has been low, since colds are generally not deadly. However, progress has been made on a vaccine for rhinoviruses.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/a_to_z/common-cold-viral-rhinitis-a-to-z

The main vaccine work for coronaviruses has been on SARS, MERS and now COVID and a lot was learned from the work on SARS/MERS, but no working vaccines were approved, largely because both diseases have disappeared (SARS) or mostly disappeared (MERS) and even if one has a vaccine that might work, if there are no outbreaks giong on, it's impossible to do the large scale phase III placebo-controlled clinical trials required for regulatory approval. The excerpt below talks about the vaccine effort on SARS, which never quite made it to human testing, due to a variety of issues.

https://theconversation.com/the-mys...he-current-one-but-didnt-for-the-other-137583

What about a SARS vaccine? Vaccine studies for SARS-CoV-1 were started and tested in animal models. An inactivated whole virus was used in ferrets, nonhuman primates and mice. All of the vaccines resulted in protective immunity, but there were complications; the vaccines resulted in an immune disease in animals. No human studies were done, nor were the vaccine studies taken further because the virus disappeared. Many factors were involved in the end of SARS-CoV-1, perhaps including summer weather, and certainly strict quarantine of all those who had contact with infected individuals, but we don’t really know why the epidemic ended. Viruses are like that, unpredictable!

With regard to MERS, which still has limited outbreaks at times (but it's so much less transmissible than COVID, such that the outbreaks never go far), several vaccines are under development and a German vector-based attenuated recombinant vaccine was developed and actually tested in a phase I trial, to at least look at initial safety and whether the vaccine prompted development of antibodies and T-cell immunity and this vaccine candidate did. Work from the MERS vaccine is being used to greatly speed development of vaccines against the new SARS-CoV-2 virus, as the vaccine will use the same viral vector (MVA) into which they will insert a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to replace the MERS-CoV spike protein.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422132600.htm
 
For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.

anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
I'm in NYC the subways have been empty for the most part but I have been taking them before rush hour both in morning and at night and only on for around 15 minutes. I don't come from NJ though.
 
For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.

anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?

No date. Still wait and see. Even if they do say I can come back in, my company’s policy is that you don’t need to come in until there is a vaccine if you don’t feel comfortable.

They are also working on downsizing office space so some people only come in on certain days, other people will be WFH indefinitely, when all this is over.
 
lets stop with the stupid narrative that protests didnt cause more cases and its only red state republicans not wearing the masks and spreading the virus.

its across partylines..that much is very clear.

Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.

And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.
 
Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.

And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.
And you said you don't have agenda! But you invoke the Trump card. For the record I am non political. Right now I can't stand both parties. Yet you only post what fits your narrative.
 
Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.

And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.
Disagree. bac implied that not wearing masks was similar on both sides of the aisle and I merely reminded him of my post, with a survey from Pew, which is generally fairly conservative, showing that mask wearing is heavily a function of political party. That's called sharing data. Here's a link to the survey. We ought to be able to talk about what drives critical behaviors that greatly impact transmission of the virus and it's been well-proven that mask wearing is one of those behaviors.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...e-even-further-apart-in-coronavirus-concerns/
 
Kind of liked this...

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For those that think that Pfizer and others are working on vaccine from the goodness of their hearts, not everybody is fooled like you.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...irs-doubts-in-congress/ar-BB16Ho9Y?ocid=ientp
I don’t think anyone thinks they are working out of the goodness of the hearts completely. I think they want to help humanity but they are a business line anyone else. I personally wouldn’t care if they made a profit in it if they didn’t take federal funds. Just keep it reasonable.
 
I don’t think anyone thinks they are working out of the goodness of the hearts completely. I think they want to help humanity but they are a business line anyone else. I personally wouldn’t care if they made a profit in it if they didn’t take federal funds. Just keep it reasonable.
I personally don't care either but a previous discussion showed that there are those that think they aren't in it to reap a lot of money.
 
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For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.

anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
Mass transportation is ground zero for corona infections. If/when this starts up again, look for cases to spike.
 
We have videos..stop blaming one side. We are seeing this behavior all over from nj to cali and in between...bur narrative you must cling to

The defense of your side is beyond pathetic.
They are the cause for the mass outbreak in the Southeast.
 
Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.

And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.

VERY divisive post (2nd paragraph).

And the theoretical concept of "any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters" falls apart when you take into account that people (non-protesters and protesters alike) were social distancing before the protests, meaning there was no "more distancing" that occured. You may agree with the protesters cause, but you simply can not deny that the protests themselves were likely to have caused an increase in transmissions of the virus. Any other conclusion is just wishful thinking.
 
For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.

anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
Gov Murphy lifted the limitation of 50% capacity on
NJ Transit. What a hero! They are running about 20% capacity. You can't make some of this up.
On rare occasions I have taken the Broad Street recently in Philly. 2 different round trips. Was the only one in the subway car all 4 times.
 
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There are good reasons for having no coronavirus vaccines yet, but the work on SARS/MERS vaccines certainly gave us a jumpstart on COVID vaccine developmnet. There are over 200 specific viruses from several families of viruses that can cause the common cold. Rhinoviruses cause up to 40% of colds (and has 100 distinct virus types). Other important upper respiratory virus families include coronaviruses (of which there are four known to cause the common cold in humans), adenoviruses and respiratory syncytial viruses. Since so many viruses can cause cold symptoms, development of a vaccine for the "common cold" (which really isn't so "common") has been difficult, plus the motivation to develop cold vaccines has been low, since colds are generally not deadly. However, progress has been made on a vaccine for rhinoviruses.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/a_to_z/common-cold-viral-rhinitis-a-to-z

The main vaccine work for coronaviruses has been on SARS, MERS and now COVID and a lot was learned from the work on SARS/MERS, but no working vaccines were approved, largely because both diseases have disappeared (SARS) or mostly disappeared (MERS) and even if one has a vaccine that might work, if there are no outbreaks giong on, it's impossible to do the large scale phase III placebo-controlled clinical trials required for regulatory approval. The excerpt below talks about the vaccine effort on SARS, which never quite made it to human testing, due to a variety of issues.

https://theconversation.com/the-mys...he-current-one-but-didnt-for-the-other-137583

What about a SARS vaccine? Vaccine studies for SARS-CoV-1 were started and tested in animal models. An inactivated whole virus was used in ferrets, nonhuman primates and mice. All of the vaccines resulted in protective immunity, but there were complications; the vaccines resulted in an immune disease in animals. No human studies were done, nor were the vaccine studies taken further because the virus disappeared. Many factors were involved in the end of SARS-CoV-1, perhaps including summer weather, and certainly strict quarantine of all those who had contact with infected individuals, but we don’t really know why the epidemic ended. Viruses are like that, unpredictable!

With regard to MERS, which still has limited outbreaks at times (but it's so much less transmissible than COVID, such that the outbreaks never go far), several vaccines are under development and a German vector-based attenuated recombinant vaccine was developed and actually tested in a phase I trial, to at least look at initial safety and whether the vaccine prompted development of antibodies and T-cell immunity and this vaccine candidate did. Work from the MERS vaccine is being used to greatly speed development of vaccines against the new SARS-CoV-2 virus, as the vaccine will use the same viral vector (MVA) into which they will insert a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to replace the MERS-CoV spike protein.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422132600.htm
If they had a working vaccine for SARS or MERS would we be closer to a COVID-19 would we likely be closer to a vaccine for it today? Yes or no please.
 
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