What % of protestors are from out of state? Or is he just fitting anecdotal evidence to fit his agenda?Where does he say this rule doesn’t apply to out of state protesters?
What % of protestors are from out of state? Or is he just fitting anecdotal evidence to fit his agenda?Where does he say this rule doesn’t apply to out of state protesters?
What % of protestors are from out of state? Or is he just fitting anecdotal evidence to fit his agenda?
Everyone should watch this. This guy has real data!
This thread is focused on red states because that's where infection is rising. This thread was all about ny/nj when we were at our peak. If that makes you uncomfortable, you're welcome to start your own "covid in the south" and "covid in ny/nj" threads
So you agree that the tweet is misleading since the comparison isn’t valid yet?
if so, how about deleting it?
lets stop with the stupid narrative that protests didnt cause more cases and its only red state republicans not wearing the masks and spreading the virus.
its across partylines..that much is very clear.
Dumb videos. Why don't you post facts instead of silly twitter videos?lets stop with the stupid narrative that protests didnt cause more cases and its only red state republicans not wearing the masks and spreading the virus.
its across partylines..that much is very clear.
I read somewhere that no strain of a coronavirus has ever had a vaccine.. all attempts have failed to produce one. I suppose a lot more effort and investment surround this one.. but if the effort had continued to crack just one example of a vaccine for a coronavirus.. we probably would have had one for CoVid-19 by now built off that older success..
I'm in NYC the subways have been empty for the most part but I have been taking them before rush hour both in morning and at night and only on for around 15 minutes. I don't come from NJ though.For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.
anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
California shutting everything down again.
For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.
anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
The NY gay community probably reached herd immunity in April.
do you have a study to back that up or do you just have an answer for everything
This needs to be deleted!The NY gay community probably reached herd immunity in April.
Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.lets stop with the stupid narrative that protests didnt cause more cases and its only red state republicans not wearing the masks and spreading the virus.
its across partylines..that much is very clear.
And you said you don't have agenda! But you invoke the Trump card. For the record I am non political. Right now I can't stand both parties. Yet you only post what fits your narrative.Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.
And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.
Disagree. bac implied that not wearing masks was similar on both sides of the aisle and I merely reminded him of my post, with a survey from Pew, which is generally fairly conservative, showing that mask wearing is heavily a function of political party. That's called sharing data. Here's a link to the survey. We ought to be able to talk about what drives critical behaviors that greatly impact transmission of the virus and it's been well-proven that mask wearing is one of those behaviors.Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.
And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.
I'll take advice from someone who hasn't fill the car up for gas since Feb 29? thank you.Kind of liked this...
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I don’t think anyone thinks they are working out of the goodness of the hearts completely. I think they want to help humanity but they are a business line anyone else. I personally wouldn’t care if they made a profit in it if they didn’t take federal funds. Just keep it reasonable.For those that think that Pfizer and others are working on vaccine from the goodness of their hearts, not everybody is fooled like you.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...irs-doubts-in-congress/ar-BB16Ho9Y?ocid=ientp
I personally don't care either but a previous discussion showed that there are those that think they aren't in it to reap a lot of money.I don’t think anyone thinks they are working out of the goodness of the hearts completely. I think they want to help humanity but they are a business line anyone else. I personally wouldn’t care if they made a profit in it if they didn’t take federal funds. Just keep it reasonable.
I hope the do charge for it. Harder for them to make it mandatory.For those that think that Pfizer and others are working on vaccine from the goodness of their hearts, not everybody is fooled like you.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...irs-doubts-in-congress/ar-BB16Ho9Y?ocid=ientp
See Gilead with RemdesivirI personally don't care either but a previous discussion showed that there are those that think they aren't in it to reap a lot of money.
Long Island is Trump territory lol. Self-ownlets stop with the stupid narrative that protests didnt cause more cases and its only red state republicans not wearing the masks and spreading the virus.
its across partylines..that much is very clear.
Mass transportation is ground zero for corona infections. If/when this starts up again, look for cases to spike.For anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.
anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
We have videos..stop blaming one side. We are seeing this behavior all over from nj to cali and in between...bur narrative you must cling to
Show your work that the protests caused more cases, because the paper I've shared a couple of times says that's not the case, as any uptick from protester case increases were offset by more distancing among non-protesters. Doesn't excuse some who protested and didn't wear masks, but it at least shows that the protests weren't the spark of major case increases.
And the large majority of people not wearing masks are Trump followers/republicans as per the Pew Research survey I shared a few days ago and obvious anecdotal evidence. It's not a black and white world though and yes there are stupid "democrats" too, but a lot less of them when it comes to masks. My opinion is the lack of caring about others by not wearing masks is both political and age-driven, as young people know they're not at much risk.
Maybe this is why NY, NJ, Conn., Pa. all seeing cases and deaths way down from the spring.Coronavirus: could it be burning out after 20% of a population is infected?
https://theconversation.com/coronav...t-after-20-of-a-population-is-infected-141584
Gov Murphy lifted the limitation of 50% capacity onFor anyone who lives in NJ and commutes to work in NYC, have you started going in again yet? If not, when do you think you’ll restart?
I’ve been doing fine working from home, but with the numbers improving in NJ and NYC I’m wondering when my company and others will want to start having some people coming back in.
anyone going in yet? If not, any rough dates on when you expect to?
If they had a working vaccine for SARS or MERS would we be closer to a COVID-19 would we likely be closer to a vaccine for it today? Yes or no please.There are good reasons for having no coronavirus vaccines yet, but the work on SARS/MERS vaccines certainly gave us a jumpstart on COVID vaccine developmnet. There are over 200 specific viruses from several families of viruses that can cause the common cold. Rhinoviruses cause up to 40% of colds (and has 100 distinct virus types). Other important upper respiratory virus families include coronaviruses (of which there are four known to cause the common cold in humans), adenoviruses and respiratory syncytial viruses. Since so many viruses can cause cold symptoms, development of a vaccine for the "common cold" (which really isn't so "common") has been difficult, plus the motivation to develop cold vaccines has been low, since colds are generally not deadly. However, progress has been made on a vaccine for rhinoviruses.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/a_to_z/common-cold-viral-rhinitis-a-to-z
The main vaccine work for coronaviruses has been on SARS, MERS and now COVID and a lot was learned from the work on SARS/MERS, but no working vaccines were approved, largely because both diseases have disappeared (SARS) or mostly disappeared (MERS) and even if one has a vaccine that might work, if there are no outbreaks giong on, it's impossible to do the large scale phase III placebo-controlled clinical trials required for regulatory approval. The excerpt below talks about the vaccine effort on SARS, which never quite made it to human testing, due to a variety of issues.
https://theconversation.com/the-mys...he-current-one-but-didnt-for-the-other-137583
What about a SARS vaccine? Vaccine studies for SARS-CoV-1 were started and tested in animal models. An inactivated whole virus was used in ferrets, nonhuman primates and mice. All of the vaccines resulted in protective immunity, but there were complications; the vaccines resulted in an immune disease in animals. No human studies were done, nor were the vaccine studies taken further because the virus disappeared. Many factors were involved in the end of SARS-CoV-1, perhaps including summer weather, and certainly strict quarantine of all those who had contact with infected individuals, but we don’t really know why the epidemic ended. Viruses are like that, unpredictable!
With regard to MERS, which still has limited outbreaks at times (but it's so much less transmissible than COVID, such that the outbreaks never go far), several vaccines are under development and a German vector-based attenuated recombinant vaccine was developed and actually tested in a phase I trial, to at least look at initial safety and whether the vaccine prompted development of antibodies and T-cell immunity and this vaccine candidate did. Work from the MERS vaccine is being used to greatly speed development of vaccines against the new SARS-CoV-2 virus, as the vaccine will use the same viral vector (MVA) into which they will insert a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to replace the MERS-CoV spike protein.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422132600.htm