My hunch is that the state doesn't have it. Would take too much resources to have hospitals break it down that far. It is pretty clear that Murphy prefers the heavy hand on the spectrum of Covid policymaking, so if it doesn't suit his needs, and it would take resources to create/define that datum, it doesn't exist.
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I agree it would be help, but that's not what you asked for. You asked for the IFR for people without any conditions. I am wondering what the benefit of knowing that is when making guidelines for prevent further infections?
I think knowing this isn't all that helpful, but knowing the IFR associated with various conditions would be helpful. One challenge here is it is likely that some conditions aren't obvious or the person may not know they have a condition(heart disease?).
Great info, thanks for posting a video of someone who knows the facts.
To correct your post about Leronlimab. The news from the FDA had to do with getting a PDU FA date for review of the combination AIDS treatment which was scheduled to be received on July 10. That would only advise if received that they will review in either 6 months , a priority review , or 10 months, a regular review. That is AIDS related only. That has absolutely nothing to do with Covid. Press release this morning and conference call today at 4 pm, that the mild / moderate trial for Covid will be unblinded this week and the severe/ critical trial , they will ask the FDA’s Data Safety Board to look at results next week. So things are getting close.
Good interview. Would be great news if they’ve hit the peak, although I could see a long plateau like we had.
It sounds like they will be going more along the lines of us with these closures (indoor dining, bars, etc.) The strange thing is that they are closing gyms, personal care services, barbershops in the counties on the monitoring list for three days. Not sure what that does.
Knowing how much a person is at risk while healthy verses unhealthy can be useful. For instance, NJ is planning on reopening schools in September. Each school district is currently developing a plan to meet the guidelines set by the state. If we know that an adult with underlying health conditions is far by far more likely to die if they are infected, then we should develop a plan to keep those teachers home.
Wouldn't that mean banning you too?
Because he orchestrates the banning. That's why he baits all of you
yup...time is of the essence and the power hungry Murphy is going to f them to the bitter end. We are already mid July. back in late May he said openings weeks not months..its months...these gym and bars cannot surivive another few weeks. Has to happen now, he is oblivious and cruel to them but hey he will raises taxes on us all to help pay to bail out the state and its employees
I thought you were off the "no politics" crowd. Clearly you don't want politics unless it's your own. Your colors are showing... and it's not red white and blue. It's a hammer and sickle.
Looks like this actually spooked the markets. Will have to pay a close eye to premarket after 6 ET.
beyond the pale response by you, are you 4
anyhow that tweet is to actually show data instead of becoming hysterical over Floridas numbers by sayng they are going up. Data matters. This thread piled on red states and it needs to be called out. We have posters continually making comments like "we are not having football because red states couldnt wear masks"....its idiotic
Watch for this from certain states over the next 3 1/2 months.
LMAO Alex Berenson who has been wrong about everything Corona. He claimed the protests turned violent because of marijuana usage, and he normally makes his money lobbying against marijuana because "its super hamrful" yet thinks Covid no big deal. The people you follow explain why you are so often positing such nonsense.
the tweet is disingenous. Data and science have both shown that deaths are a lagging metric. the tweet is attempting to compare states were impacted early on and that are now well past their new case peak, and therefore have accumulated a large number of deaths to two states that have not yet reached their peak(and therefore likely haven't seen the level of deaths they they are unfortunately likely to see) and who will also hopefully benefit from the painful lessons learned by states like NJ and NY and won't have similar death rates. (holy run-on sentence, but I don't have the patience to fix it).
And neither is the mask, but like the seatbelt it vastly reduces the risk of harm.
Again... here in the Boone area of western NC, we are being inundated by Floridians claiming to be escaping the heat. Right, stay the FCK in your hotspot. Show some decency. That won't happen....
interesting, I would like the msm to report why...why is this state in trouble...werent they using masks..blue state.
the answer might lie in the southern states and the use of air conditioning, just throwing that out there because its been discussed
The states with low infection numbers are becoming vacation destinations. Can’t blame Cuomo for cracking down. The last thing anyone needs are Floridians spreading Covid across the country.
So you agree that the tweet is misleading since the comparison isn’t valid yet?
if so, how about deleting it?
Shocked he let him continue that long considering he isn’t backing up the CNN narrative.
Im sure if they knew he was going to say that he would never had been on.
Time to bust out the ankle bracelets.
This thread is focused on red states because that's where infection is rising. This thread was all about ny/nj when we were at our peak. If that makes you uncomfortable, you're welcome to start your own "covid in the south" and "covid in ny/nj" threads
Yes, but he's not saying much different from what several of us have been saying for awhile, i.e., that FL has more cases per capita than we did partly because of more testing and that FL will very likely have a signifcantly lower death rate per capita than NY/NJ due to the much younger infected population, the lesser seriousness of cases and the improved medical procedures and treatments we now have. You're implying people haven't been noting these differences and people on the board have and CNN clearly is, as they had Lockwood on.
How much lower is the question which nobody knows the answer to, but it could be even lower than the 1/3-2/3 of the peak NJ death rate I guesstimated on Saturday, which would be fantastic - it's why I've been dying to know the true mortality reduction of convalescent plasma, which is being used quite a bit (if it's as good as I suspect, I think we'd even see death rates lower than 1/3 of NJ's, per capita).
We'll see over the next 7-14 days, as the cases are starting to peak/plateau in FL and other states seeing big rises and the time from the plateau in cases starting to the plateau in deaths starting was about 7-14 days in NJ/NY (NY was about 7 with more of a peak that a plateau and NJ was 13 with a plateau - that's why the uncertainty on when a peak might be seen in deaths, plus FL might not be exactly like NY/NJ). Don't forget the big wild card, however - will the fast/wide spread of cases in the young eventually reach the elderly in FL, as FL is the 2nd oldest state. Hopefully, they can do better than places hit in the first wave.
Because it is. NO where was there any mention of the use of Wonton soup in the treatment.Everyone knows how good that soup is for you. They're holding back
They are an interesting case because initially they were more aggressive with their restrictions when it was perceived that cases were coming from Asia. That was viewed as the main problem but it proved not to be the case. In the end, they probably jumped the gun on the indoor stuff like the Sunbelt states.
Looking forward to those reports on what went wrong. How can we learn and do better in the future?
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Not sure but I think he is combining the tests of active virus and antibody.
He notes that Florida completed 143K tests, but John Hopkins shows 98K.
That would also explain his 11% positivity rate compared to 15% on Hopkins.
I also wonder about his IFR data, is he including current cases?
Until they crack down on all protests and riots allowing none of them this is BS and these two govs are full of crap and only doing this for political reasons.
come from out of state to set a store on fire but don;t dare come for a vacation.
+1
If the guvs want to get serious, they need to shut down protests.
Where does he say this rule doesn’t apply to out of state protesters?
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